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moderated Testing notifications #misc

 

Mark,

The new moderator notifications have been turned on for those who
asked.
#bug

In my test group my display name has an apostrophe in it. And, well, yeah:

To: Shals2nd&#39;s Display Name <@Shal>
From: main@shalstest.groups.io Notification <main@shalstest.groups.io>
Subject: [shalstest] Photo IMGP7434 Saturn.jpg uploaded
Gotta love HTML.

Shal

 

Andy,

I don't like this combiner approach with a 4 minute delay. It seems to
me that we have a sharp new system to send out immediate notifications
and then we blunt that by delaying them.
OTOH if you want immediacy you can enable it as a web/app notification. That's even faster than prompt email delivery.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/25544

Of course, that won't help you (yet) when using the mobile app.

I was concerned with the first-out delay time introduced by the combiner, but now I think I may be fine with it, given that push notifications are still immediate.

Shal

 

Agree 110% with Andy. I haven’t followed the conversation about aggregation but now reading that the notifications are going to be blunted (great word) like this, I’m really shaking my head. I think it’s the wrong approach. Like Andy says: if you don’t like them, turn them off.


On Jun 25, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:54 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
now sent through the combiner,
I don't like this combiner approach with a 4 minute delay. It seems to me that we have a sharp new system to send out immediate notifications and then we blunt that by delaying them. If I want the notifications, I want them almost immediately, if I don't I should have the ability to turn them off.  Earlier, a member in one of my subgroups updated a database. He then emailed me off list to confirm he'd made a change and his email arrived before the Groups.io notification, making that notification pointless. If the combiner delay was something more reasonable, say 30 seconds, that would be better as I can understand the need to combine some quick-fire changes into one notice, however, 4 minutes is way to long me and I'd rather have the option to turn the combiner off than have that.

Regards,
Andy

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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:54 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
now sent through the combiner,
I don't like this combiner approach with a 4 minute delay. It seems to me that we have a sharp new system to send out immediate notifications and then we blunt that by delaying them. If I want the notifications, I want them almost immediately, if I don't I should have the ability to turn them off.  Earlier, a member in one of my subgroups updated a database. He then emailed me off list to confirm he'd made a change and his email arrived before the Groups.io notification, making that notification pointless. If the combiner delay was something more reasonable, say 30 seconds, that would be better as I can understand the need to combine some quick-fire changes into one notice, however, 4 minutes is way to long me and I'd rather have the option to turn the combiner off than have that.

Regards,
Andy

 

This morning I removed the hashtags from the new moderator notifications. My thinking was that these notifications aren't controlled by hashtag muting, so having the hashtags would be confusing. And it matches our existing moderator notifications, which have never had hashtags.

Thanks,
Mark

 

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:42 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Note that moderator notifications are not sent to you if you did the action that caused the notification.
Mark, I am getting web/app notifications whenever I post a message, because I have myself on moderation so that I can edit my messages (and to make sure I didn't send them to the wrong place). While I can live with this, I do find it a bit disconcerting every time. :) Is there a way to fix this?
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

 

Mark,

Please let me know if you have any questions or see anything amiss.
One thing that stood out on a recent #wiki-notice was the "Integration" badge in the Pending list. I don't think that was there before, so I'll blame the combiner for it.

Shal

 

Hi All,

The new moderator notifications have been turned on for those who asked. There are also a couple changes that have just gone live for all:

- The notifications generated when a member checks a `Notify Members` checkbox are also now sent through the combiner, so they won't immediately appear in your group. If multiple notifications of the same kind are generated quickly, they will be merged into one email. Also, these notifications no longer have the 'Cheers, Groups.io Team' signature. The new per-moderator notifications now being tested work the same way.
- In the Subscription and group members pages, the `Notifications` panel has been renamed `Moderator Notifications`.

Please let me know if you have any questions or see anything amiss.

Thanks,
Mark

Duane
 

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 03:04 PM, Bob Morley wrote:
1. But I want to know that my uploaded photo did actually get uploaded without having to go to the web and verify.

2. Perhaps even more obscure: I would *want" to be notified if a photo was uploaded under my ID and it wasn't me doing the upload.
1.  You have to be online to upload anyway.

2.  Can't be done.  Ownership of a photo can be changed after upload, but in the activity log, the original upload is always attributed to the person logged in.

Duane

Bob Morley
 


On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 02:42 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Note that moderator notifications are not sent to you if you did the action that caused the notification. For example, if I'm a moderator of a group with photo notifications turned on, and I upload a photo, I will not get notified of it. But if someone else uploads a photo, I will get that notification.
Playing the devil's advocate:

1. But I want to know that my uploaded photo did actually get uploaded without having to go to the web and verify.

2. Perhaps even more obscure: I would *want" to be notified if a photo was uploaded under my ID and it wasn't me doing the upload. 
 
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Gerald

 

Hi All,

Before I roll out the new moderator notifications (for chat/files/photos/wikis/databases), I'd like some feedback on them. If you're interested, please contact me off-list and I'll enable them for you. You won't be able to turn them off during the test (that is, they will not show up in Notifications in your Subscription page). They will be set to Email and Web/App, which is the default and they will be turned on for all of your groups.

If your groups have no activity in those areas, you will receive no notifications.

Note that moderator notifications are not sent to you if you did the action that caused the notification. For example, if I'm a moderator of a group with photo notifications turned on, and I upload a photo, I will not get notified of it. But if someone else uploads a photo, I will get that notification.

Thanks,
Mark