moderated Log rejected messages #suggestion


 

Maybe there could be a separate message archive for messages and notices that don't go to the group: rejected messages from group members, rejection notifications, rejected messages from non-group members (I think this one might be better as a group option), invite messages, etc. I would not include spam messages or any other messages rejected by the system (too large, etc.). I have not thought out the details of this, but in keeping with Andy's concerns about bogging down the activity log, a separate message archive for these kinds of things might make sense. As in the regular message archive, each one would be a link that could be clicked on to see the full content.

It would be great to connect these content links to the corresponding activity log entry. So the log entry would read: "xyz rejected message abc [link to rejected message] with reason pqr [link to rejection notice]." Or "xyz sent message abc [link to message] to member pqr." Same with invites and any other content too large to include in the actual activity log. (I still would not include spam messages or any messages bouncing because of size.)
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Duane
 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:05 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
Maybe there could be a separate message archive for messages and notices that don't go to the group: rejected messages from group members, rejection notifications, rejected messages from non-group members (I think this one might be better as a group option), invite messages, etc.
It seems to me that if all this is stored on site, you're right back to having to search through it to get the information you want.  Seems like a lot of work/coding for little return when you'd get the same results by using your own email records for searching.  A little tweak, having rejection notices sent to all moderators by default, would accomplish the intended solution.  That wouldn't be foolproof though because some moderators wouldn't want to send it to all other mods and would turn off the check box.

Duane


 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:05 AM, Duane wrote:
you'd get the same results by using your own email records for searching.
Maybe but the same could be said of the message archive. Why not just search through all your emails for any groups.io message you want to find? In fact, wjhy not go back to a pure email-only system?

I think storing the non-group-sent messages in a dedicated archive is better than glomming them all into the activity log, because I agree with Andy that that bogs it down. And already, some of them are going there anyway (mod message to member, invite, rejection notice). The glaring lack are the rejected messages themselves. I also don't see bcc'ing all mods by default as "a little tweak." Maybe a programming little tweak, but large in its effect.
 
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:05 AM, Duane wrote:
you're right back to having to search through it
Actually that's not the case if you implement the way I suggested, namely, the activity log entries would contain links to the content of whatever was done. See my prior message. So you see that someone rejected a message and you could go right to it in the "unsent message archive" (or whatever it would be called). Just as now, you see that someone approved a message and can go right to it in the message archive. Completely analogous, no searching required.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu