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moderated Event RSVP changes #update
Hi All, I've just pushed the following changes/improvements to our event RSVP system:
The RSVP management stuff is pretty complex and I made a lot of changes. I've tested everything, but please let me know if you see anything fishy. Or if you have suggestions. (Reminder that the RSVP functionality is available to premium groups and free groups that were grandfathered in). Thanks, Mark
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:14 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've tested everything, but please let me know if you see anything fishy. Or if you have suggestions.Hi Mark, Thanks. I spent a few minutes testing this again and have the following comments and suggestions (in the order I found them):
That's all for now :-) Regards, Andy
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! I haven't had a chance to play with this yet, but I'm in agreement with Andy's requests, but for now, the ability to control the RSVPs as a moderator is HUGE.
I do have one question regarding the "not sure" or 'maybe" selections, is this a new feature? I don't remember seeing those options before, and for our group, I would disable such a function as we can't operate well with "maybe" as a response. Nancy
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So I tested this out. I created an event and responded "Attending", I then received an email with this subject
[Testing] First day of school event information The email was blank. Is this what we're supposed to receive or is it a bug?
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 11:58 PM, Nancy Funk wrote:
So I tested this out. I created an event and responded "Attending", I then received an email with this subjectHi Nancy, I have reproduced this and the blank email you received is the Note To Send Attendees. I didn't try leaving it blank on my testing but I sort of covered this in my points 5 & 6 above. If my #suggestion at 6 is implemented then it will eliminate a blank email being sent when no text is entered in the Note To Send Attendees box. Regards Andy
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 10:56 PM, Nancy Funk wrote:
I do have one question regarding the "not sure" or 'maybe" selections, is this a new feature? I don't remember seeing those options before, and for our group, I would disable such a function as we can't operate well with "maybe" as a responseHi Nancy, as a person can only respond Will Attend or Will Not Attend to an event and management of the responses (where 'not sure' can be set) is new then it must be a new feature. If a person has their status changed to 'not sure' (or they end up being able to set it themselves - see my #suggestion 10 above) they are not on the waitlist. Anyone one the waitlist gets allocated a space on the event ahead of those who are 'not sure' and on that basis, I don't see it causing an issue. It may even provide the event organiser with an incentive to change/promote the event to encourage those who are 'not sure' to change their RSVP status to Will Attend. Regards, Andy
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 11:57 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
That's all for now :-)Hi Mark, I found some extra things during testing (I've continued the number sequence from before even though I can't start a numbered list from a given point): 13. After using the Actions button on the View Responses page to send messages to Responders, Attendees etc. I am returned to the home page of my main group and then have to navigate back to the subgroup and calendar where my test event is defined. #suggestion: keep focus on the calendar event after sending a message 14. Messages sent to responders about places on the event and movements on the waitlist appear to come direct from the event organiser (rather than via Groups.io) so, by default, any replies from a responder go direct to the organiser. If an Owner/Mod is the event organiser the default 'From' address on messages sent via the Actions button on the View Responses page is group+owner so replies are most likely going to be sent back to that address. Event responders can therefore get messages about the same event from two different sources and if Mods are set not to receive group+owner emails (our group policy is that they do not) some replies from responders can be easily missed. I know Mods may check the +owner Messages on individual responders' membership records but that's not a practical solution, especially for events that could have a large number of responders. #suggestion: set the default From address on messages sent via the Actions button to be the event organiser Note for clarity: My references to Event Organiser assume that the person in the Organizer Name field is doing the event management actions on Groups.io, I know they may be different. I hope that makes sense. Let me know if you need more info. Cheers Andy
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Andy,
After giving it some thought, I realize the Not Sure option shouldn't be much of a problem. We do have some members who may abuse it, but we'll have to be clear that a Not Sure response will be treated as a Not Attending and we will be making accommodations for Not Sure responses. We are a homeschool group and in general, I have noticed that homeschoolers are not great at showing up to things. We can at least now boot those who make a habit of no-showing to events. As for the blank email, I sure hope that can be fixed otherwise it will cause all sorts of confusion with my members, and I'll be fielding questions everytime someone gets one fo these emails. Thanks for all your thorough testing! Nancy
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 3:57 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Changed.
We now send an email notification when a moderator/event owner changes someone's RSVP.
This is no longer displayed for people who are not moderators/event owners. Also, this field is now also displayed in the list view (for appropriate people).
We now send an email with the event details when you RSVP yes to an event.
They have been combined into one email.
We now display the number of attendees when editing an event's maximum # of attendees field.
Not done.
We now display your response at the top of the view responses page.
For events with a specified max number of attendees, we don't permit people to specify Not Sure.
Everything is now 'not sure'.
It displays all responses on one page. What else should it do? Thanks, Mark
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Thanks Mark. I'll look to re-run my tests and report back.
To cover your final point: I thought 'Export' would provide details in something like a CSV format that could be used outside Groups.io and would match similar behaviour from the Export Group Data function. I would say that what it currently does is provide a summary or overview of responses received. Regards, Andy
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:42 PM, Nancy Funk wrote:
As for the blank email, I sure hope that can be fixedHi Nancy, Mark's update suggests that you should no longer have the blank email issue. I will re-run my tests ASAP. Regards Andy
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So much action on this and just in time as we posted our first hard cap event, which means it is imperative that we be able to manage the RSVPs when our members are too lazy to do so.
Thank you again on behalf of all our moderators and event coordinators. :) Nancy
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:17 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi Mark, I've never seen an option for someone to respond 'not sure' and only three buttons are available: A 'Not sure' status can only be set for someone by the event owner/moderator. Did all of your intended changes get pushed out? Regards Andy
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Hi Mark,
just wanted to mention I was looking at the Calendar for an event I responded Not Attending. On the calendar page it has a typo where it lists the counts and for me it states You are no attending, instead of You are not attending. Charlie
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:00 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Yes, if you specify a max number of attendees, the Not Sure option will not appear. If you do not cap the number of attendees, the Not Sure option will be there. Moderators/event owners can specify Not Sure for any rsvp, regardless. Thanks, Mark
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:44 PM Charlie Behnken <charles.behnken@...> wrote:
This has been fixed. Thanks, Mark
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 6:48 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Fixed. 14. Messages sent to responders about places on the event and movements on the waitlist appear to come direct from the event organiser (rather than via Groups.io) so, by default, any replies from a responder go direct to the organiser. If an Owner/Mod is the event organiser the default 'From' address on messages sent via the Actions button on the View Responses page is group+owner so replies are most likely going to be sent back to that address. Event responders can therefore get messages about the same event from two different sources and if Mods are set not to receive group+owner emails (our group policy is that they do not) some replies from responders can be easily missed. I know Mods may check the +owner Messages on individual responders' membership records but that's not a practical solution, especially for events that could have a large number of responders. #suggestion: set the default From address on messages sent via the Actions button to be the event organiser The default From line is now the person sending the message. Previously, it was the +owner address. Thanks, Mark
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:16 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I'll look to re-run my tests and report back. The export function now returns a CSV file with all the responses. Thanks, Mark
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Hi Mark,
I created an event with RSVP last night and accepted it as Will Attend to get myself in the count. The message I received titled Your RSVP to the xxx Event contained the original Description field and not the Note to Send Attendees. (Now the five people who accepted the invite don't have the full information). I tried this two more times today to verify I did not do anything wrong and in those cases I again got the original Description and not the Note to Send Attendees. Obviously this used to work fine. Charlie P.S. I also noticed that Google mail is complaining about the RSVP email source in a big yellow box - Be careful with this message
Gmail could not verify that it actually came from charles.behnken@.... Avoid clicking links, downloading attachments, or replying with personal information.
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Hello, On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 7:53 AM Charlie Behnken <charles.behnken@...> wrote:
This bug has been fixed. Sorry about that. Charlie I think what I need to do for that is to use the DMARC logic for re-writing From lines, since these messages come from the event organizer. I will do that next week. Thanks, Mark
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