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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
#suggestion
Relying on people to not conspire with each other is not a safe approach. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity Best, Glenn
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Relying on people to not conspire with each other is not a safe approach. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity Best, Glenn
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Glenn Glazer
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
#suggestion
p.s. You think people don't talk to each other? At least in the cats groups world, and no doubt in other universes as well, people are always yabbing to each other about which group they just joined,
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p.s. You think people don't talk to each other? At least in the cats groups world, and no doubt in other universes as well, people are always yabbing to each other about which group they just joined,
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J_Catlady
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Wording does not solve this problem IMHO. It is what it is and everyone is going to find out what's really going on.
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Wording does not solve this problem IMHO. It is what it is and everyone is going to find out what's really going on.
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J_Catlady
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#suggestion
J, Perhaps the gravity of the situation could be mitigated by the wording of the notice. It could say that unfortunately that group has no free slots available, but you can purchase a pass to join any
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J, Perhaps the gravity of the situation could be mitigated by the wording of the notice. It could say that unfortunately that group has no free slots available, but you can purchase a pass to join any
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Shal Farley
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And on top of that, their neighbor in the next seat might have gotten in free.
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And on top of that, their neighbor in the next seat might have gotten in free.
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J_Catlady
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
#suggestion
Shal, Here is the connection between member payment and specific group - from Mark's original message in this thread: "Once the free member slots are filled up, someone wishing to be a new member of t
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Shal, Here is the connection between member payment and specific group - from Mark's original message in this thread: "Once the free member slots are filled up, someone wishing to be a new member of t
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J_Catlady
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
#suggestion
What I am strongly opposed to is a new member payment NOT tied to a specific group, that would be required to even access any groups that are grandfathered, free Basic and/or already sponsored and pai
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What I am strongly opposed to is a new member payment NOT tied to a specific group, that would be required to even access any groups that are grandfathered, free Basic and/or already sponsored and pai
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Scott Chase
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
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J, Yes. I recognize that Mark will almost certainly follow through with his original Pricing Changes, but I'm opposed to it alone (without adding Samuel's proposal or other mitigations). I didn't thin
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J, Yes. I recognize that Mark will almost certainly follow through with his original Pricing Changes, but I'm opposed to it alone (without adding Samuel's proposal or other mitigations). I didn't thin
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Shal Farley
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I know I'm a little late to this proposal but I'm wondering what problems are being solved by changing the payment strategy. If the problem is disk space cost then charge more for space. If basic oper
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I know I'm a little late to this proposal but I'm wondering what problems are being solved by changing the payment strategy. If the problem is disk space cost then charge more for space. If basic oper
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Joanie
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
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Shal is diametrically opposed to Mark’s original idea, in which only owners pay, in that case. Also please don’t put words in my mouth. I never said things “must” be one way or the other. My feeling i
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Shal is diametrically opposed to Mark’s original idea, in which only owners pay, in that case. Also please don’t put words in my mouth. I never said things “must” be one way or the other. My feeling i
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J_Catlady
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
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Jeremy, Ah. I missed the implication that the ability of a group to pay for additional free slots, and even the base-level free slots, would be taken away under Drew's proposal. Agreed. I'm diametrica
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Jeremy, Ah. I missed the implication that the ability of a group to pay for additional free slots, and even the base-level free slots, would be taken away under Drew's proposal. Agreed. I'm diametrica
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Shal Farley
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#suggestion
That is the biggest downside to Samuel's proposal IMO. If member fees are tied to specific groups it creates all kinds of problems, most of which probably even aren't predictable. But the predictable
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That is the biggest downside to Samuel's proposal IMO. If member fees are tied to specific groups it creates all kinds of problems, most of which probably even aren't predictable. But the predictable
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J_Catlady
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It really doesn't look suspicious to me. And i'm suspicious lol.
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It really doesn't look suspicious to me. And i'm suspicious lol.
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J_Catlady
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Ok, maybe go look at them. I could see about 30 in the new groups search that are definitely from one person. They might have more. Hopefully Mark has something in place that prevents people from sell
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Ok, maybe go look at them. I could see about 30 in the new groups search that are definitely from one person. They might have more. Hopefully Mark has something in place that prevents people from sell
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monamouroui
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I think most (in fact, all) brand-new groups start out with 1 member.
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I think most (in fact, all) brand-new groups start out with 1 member.
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J_Catlady
· #27827
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Samuel, what's to stop group owners from creating dozens of basic groups before Jan 18 with the hope of having "X" number for free slots per group and duplicating their archives in each group? Particu
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Samuel, what's to stop group owners from creating dozens of basic groups before Jan 18 with the hope of having "X" number for free slots per group and duplicating their archives in each group? Particu
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monamouroui
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#suggestion
Marv Waschke: I agree as long as the members limit is lifted or a more affordable pricing introduced. My group is in the range of 2100 members, at the moment using 29 MB total storage out of 1GB. I am
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Marv Waschke: I agree as long as the members limit is lifted or a more affordable pricing introduced. My group is in the range of 2100 members, at the moment using 29 MB total storage out of 1GB. I am
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Marina
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I don't see anything in Samuel's proposal that would change your current way of doing things. You are grandfathered in as a legacy Premium Group. That fact would not change unless you decided to downl
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I don't see anything in Samuel's proposal that would change your current way of doing things. You are grandfathered in as a legacy Premium Group. That fact would not change unless you decided to downl
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Sandi D
· #27823
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
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Whatever Mark decides, the pricing should be simple to administer. Today it is one billing per group. Increasing the number of billings will exponentially increase workload! KISS MKR
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Whatever Mark decides, the pricing should be simple to administer. Today it is one billing per group. Increasing the number of billings will exponentially increase workload! KISS MKR
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M K Ramadoss
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Samuel's Paid User Proposal
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It's pointless to sit here and debate whose assumptions are correct. One of three things is true: Mark will implement his pricing changes on the 18th, or he won't, or he's still considering input. I'd
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It's pointless to sit here and debate whose assumptions are correct. One of three things is true: Mark will implement his pricing changes on the 18th, or he won't, or he's still considering input. I'd
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Peter Cook
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