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locked Re: Send To Me (a candidate for the More menu) #suggestion

 

Maria,

In our group, if one want's to "save" a past post in order to refer to
it one can bookmark it in one's browser.
I don't follow your logic here. Are you saying that members are prohibited from electing to receive individual messages, or prohibited from keeping them? If not, they get to save the past post in an email folder. And they can reply to it from there.

That's no different from what I've proposed (if the feature is limited to the term of one's membership). The only difference is whether the member received the message when first posted or received it later.


Shal
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

In essence, it is sorted by a date that does not even show any more.
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locked Subject font in message/thread view daker? bolder?

Maria
 

I know I've mentioned before that perhaps the subject font in threads/message view might benefit from being more intense in color, perhaps not bolder ( as the font itself is lovely as is), but something to help the reader's eye when scanning threads, not be overpowered by the hashtag blocks. Because the subject is a "headline", the eye should go to it before it goes to the "hashtag", i think. Or  at least it's worth trying, to see if it feels better.

Maria



locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:52 am, Duane wrote:
In my mind, once an edit is made, I'd rather see it sorted by the edit date as though it were new.

First, it is NOT sorted by the edit date now. It is still sorted by the posted date (as you yourself pointed out). Yet that date is now gone from the list.

Second, I feel that the edit date is not the key date of the message. There can be many edits but only one "posted" date. 
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

Duane
 

Which, to me anyway, comes back to the fact that it was edited. In my mind, once an edit is made, I'd rather see it sorted by the edit date as though it were new.

Duane


locked "Actions" menu in "Manage my Subscriptions"

Maria
 

What am I missing with regard to this button? I see it, it's called "actions" but when i click on it I am not offered a menu of actions...?

Even if I have a group clicked... Am I doing something wrong? Or does this need to be revisited?

Maria


locked Re: signature included in ellipses text when top-posting #bug

 

Bumping this up: There is never a signature shown when top-posting. Can the signature be pulled out of the ellipses?
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

p.s. In fact, I'm going to "reclassify this" (at least in my own mind) as a serious problem or lack. You need to be able to search on, or at least scroll through, messages by date posted. Without that, it's like shooting in the dark.
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locked log "sent confirmation email" somewhere #suggestion

 
Edited

Someone just applied for membership in my group. I looked at the person in the pending members page and saw "NC." Accordingly, I tried to send a confirmation email. However, I didn't see that it had gone through, and wasn't sure whether it had (I know now that a banner comes up at the top, but didn't notice or see it) so I tried sending it again. The second time, I saw the banner. But there is no log entry anywhere that I could find of this action, to know for sure whether I'd done it one time, two times, or not at all. I tried all the obvious places - the group activity log for moderators, the pending member's activity log, and my own activity log.

Is this action currently logged anywhere? If not, could it be? Thanks.
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

To emphasize/clarify the prior example: If I'm looking for a post from October 2015, and it was edited this morning, and either there are no other posts from October 2015 OR the ones from that month have ALSO been edited, there's practically no way I'm going to find the post by scrolling.

There clearly needs to be a date-range search at some point, but at this point, scrolling is all we've got, and with the posting date missing, it doesn't cut it for me.
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 09:53 am, Duane wrote:
But the sort order is still the original posting date/time

Yes, it is. I'd already checked that. I don't think that's good enough, and in fact makes things a bit worse IMO, since the dates displayed may seem to jump around. 
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

Duane
 

But the sort order is still the original posting date/time, so you'd find it right where you were looking. I've verified this on one of my groups.

Duane


locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

Ok, the nagging feeling that something is wrong with leaving out the date just took shape in the form of an example. Say you're scrolling through the message list by date, trying to find a message that you know was posted on a certain date. Say that's one of the key things you know about it. You don't remember the message #, because, as has been pointed out, who would? You might know who posted it (or you might not), and you probably know something, ranging from vague to definite, about its contents. Searching on terms may (or may not) be helpful. The only thing you're sure of is the posting date (or even date range.)

Or say you want to find all messages posted on a certain date (and there is not yet a "date range" advanced search option).

In either of those cases, you're screwed. If you remember it was posted in October, 2015, and you're scrolling through in that date range, you might see other posts during that month (or you might not - there might not have been any). If you did see some, you could check the surrounding messages (if there are any), but you would not see the message you're looking for AS POSTED ON THAT DATE.

That's the problem.
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

It's not a big deal. It's just a little thing that bothers me (and may eventually bother your average user...) But I'll pick my battles. ;) 
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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

Maria
 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 06:18 am, Duane wrote:
I personally don't see a reason for the original post date/time on the Messages View. If an edit has been made, then I'm interested in the correct(ed) information and when it was posted to make sure I've seen it. It doesn't change the sort order as far as I can tell, still uses the original date/time on the view.

 I feel the same way. Unless, I'm missing something... ? I'm not sure why I need to see the original post date and the edit date in the messages list view. As long as it's in the single message view...

Maria 


locked Re: "all posts by this member" ordered by "relevance" #bug

 

It just happened again, and it will probably happen with this reply, too. The system is very sluggish and a bit weird this morning, at least on my end. (Nothing else is slow - email, etc., all work fine.)
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J

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locked Re: "all posts by this member" ordered by "relevance" #bug

 

(p.s. FWIW: Something went really wrong after I hit "reply to group" on that. At first it hung for about 15 seconds (or more? time is stretched when waiting for things like this), with the task bar about a quarter of the way through. After awhile I hit "send" again. It seemed to make a little progress, and then took me back to "my groups." After I clicked on "beta," I found that the message had posted.) 
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locked Re: "all posts by this member" ordered by "relevance" #bug

 
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Maria,

I didn't check that out. In general, I'm not sure what the "collapse threads" feature was meant to be applied to. I thought it was a brilliant idea on Mark's part but I understood it only to apply to search results. "All posts by this member" is inherently different from a list of search results (for one thing, you would never order it by relevance). But if collapse is well thought through, I think it could be useful to apply "collapse" to any list of threads, including the results (if accurate) of posts by a member, and even including the message list itself [ADD], thus potentially taking the place of the "message view"/"threads view" toggle.

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J

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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 06:18 am, Duane wrote:
believe this was done to minimize the impact on mobile users by "combining" the Edited button/icon and the posted date/time.

It was done after I (and others?) complained that the "Edited" badge was too prominent. I liked the solution of moving it down to the bottom with the rest of the basic info. But I didn't realize at the time, because I was looking at one individual message rather than the list, that the original posted dates are now missing in that location. I find that very bothersome.
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J

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locked Re: problem: edited date wipes out date posted #suggestion

Duane
 

I personally don't see a reason for the original post date/time on the Messages View. If an edit has been made, then I'm interested in the correct(ed) information and when it was posted to make sure I've seen it. It doesn't change the sort order as far as I can tell, still uses the original date/time on the view.

I believe this was done to minimize the impact on mobile users by "combining" the Edited button/icon and the posted date/time.

Duane

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