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locked Re: New profiles and member directory

 

Thanks for the bug reports and suggestions. Paging is fixed, sorting is fixed, permissions are fixed. There's now a per-group option to turn on/off the directory as well.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
2. BUG (?) profiles seem not to be shown - just the name. 

What I meant was that no groups are shown. But that also now seems to be missing in profiles in general. Is this on purpose?

Very confused about what's happening.  

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locked Re: New profiles and member directory

Maria
 

When you add a new picture to your profile ( i just did in a subgroup of our test group) you upload the picture and save but you don't see a preview of it after you've saved. You have to exit and go back to your profile in subscription to see that it "took". I was assuming it hadn't worked but it did... Maybe when you upload and save a pic you should see a preview after you have uploaded it before you click save and after.

Maria


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Maria
 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:50 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Also, if you have suggestions for UI improvements for the member directory, that'd be appreciated as well.

Ok, seeing it in our test group on desktop now. 

I like the layout both on desktop and mobile. I wouldn't make it vertical on desktop, but like that it's vertical on mobile.

I'd make sure it's infinite scroll on mobile - and I'd probably prefer infinite scroll for that on desktop too, or 100 or so members per page would be nice.

I'd add a "Search" feature so that one can search for another member.

I'd make sure that members who are not mods or owners cannot see full email addresses when a member doesn't have a profile/display name set up. Otherwise we are making the member list visible.... (i'll check this with a non owner account - but not sure based on what J is seeing and what i am getting when i go to the one in beta, that i could access it yet.

I think this will be even cooler when/if it is linked to the option of DM'ing someone via the directory - but love that we now have this.

And as mentioned, I think we need an option to enable and disable it in groups we want/ don't want it in and for that to make it disappear from the menu.

Thank you!

Maria


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
2. BUG (?) profiles seem not to be shown - just the name. 

What I meant was that no groups are shown. But that also now seems to be missing in profiles in general. Is this on purpose?

Very confused about what's happening.  

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

 

Perhaps non-owners or non-mods are not supposed to have access to the directory? But in that case, I think they shouldn't have access to the button in the sidebar and then be told they can't see it.

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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:38 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
I'm still moderated. Is that perhaps the reason I was unable to access the directory?

Checked further, and turns out I'm not allowed access to the directory for any group I don't own, whether I'm moderated in the group or not. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
BUG: paging through the directory doesn't work

The arrow works, but not clicking on a particular page. It just stays put. 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

Maria
 

haven't checked it out on desktop yet (mobile only), so will chime in about design later. 

On mobile it seems fine at first glance but I may have some ideas ;) 

Maria 


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

 

Issues so far:

1. BUG: paging through the directory doesn't work

2. BUG (?) profiles seem not to be shown - just the name. 

3. SUGGESTION: could the directory be displayed in alphabetical order? seems currently displayed in reverse chrono order of joining (as with the members list default). Is there a way to toggle this? In fact, could the display be vertical instead of as a grid?
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locked Re: New profiles and member directory

 

Confused. I just tested this by going into a group I don't own and clicking on "directory." I was taken back to the home page (with "directory" no longer highlighted) and told "you do not have access to this page." Are these permissions are already in place? This happens to be a group I've never posted in, so I'm still moderated. Is that perhaps the reason I was unable to access the directory?
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

Maria
 

And to clarify: we will use it in our subgroups but not in our parent group so the setting to enable or disable would ideally be per group so we can customize which groups get it.


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Maria
 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:27 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Not right now. If that's something that's needed, it can be easily added.

Yes please!

And if it's not enabled in a group or if you need privileges to access it it shouldn't probably be listed in the menu. Like I can see directory in the beta menu but when I click on it it says I don't have permission. 

So think it would be good to tweak those 2 things. 

Also- if someone doesn't have a profile and their email address is all there is, am I correct that it's truncated to non mods? In other words, it shouldn't /won't read as an email listing of all members right?

Maria 





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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:26 PM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

Thank you! Can't wait to explore it. 

Quick question: Is there a setting to disable the directory in groups where it's not needed? 


Not right now. If that's something that's needed, it can be easily added.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

Maria
 

Thank you! Can't wait to explore it. 

Quick question: Is there a setting to disable the directory in groups where it's not needed? 

Maria 


locked Re: New profiles and member directory

 

Mark, no apologies necessary when we get to see KITTENS!!! 🐱😋💗
J

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On Oct 7, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Apologies for the downtime just now, the upgrade process took much longer than I anticipated.

I just pushed the new profiles feature. Now you can have individual profiles for each subscription. And there's a new privacy setting for each profile. If you change your 'main' profile, as you used to do, it'll cascade to all of your subscription profiles (except for the parts you've changed). To change a profile on one of your subscriptions, go to your Subscription page on the group and click the Profile button.

There's also now a member directory, which displays profiles that you have permission to see.

There's no longer the /profile/@username URL, as there's no longer the concept of a single profile per person. Also, if you do not have a profile photo set, we no longer try to use one from gravatar.com, as that proved to be confusing.

These features required a lot of changes under the covers. Please let me know if you see anything weird. Also, if you have suggestions for UI improvements for the member directory, that'd be appreciated as well.

Thanks,
Mark

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


locked New profiles and member directory

 

Hi All,

Apologies for the downtime just now, the upgrade process took much longer than I anticipated.

I just pushed the new profiles feature. Now you can have individual profiles for each subscription. And there's a new privacy setting for each profile. If you change your 'main' profile, as you used to do, it'll cascade to all of your subscription profiles (except for the parts you've changed). To change a profile on one of your subscriptions, go to your Subscription page on the group and click the Profile button.

There's also now a member directory, which displays profiles that you have permission to see.

There's no longer the /profile/@username URL, as there's no longer the concept of a single profile per person. Also, if you do not have a profile photo set, we no longer try to use one from gravatar.com, as that proved to be confusing.

These features required a lot of changes under the covers. Please let me know if you see anything weird. Also, if you have suggestions for UI improvements for the member directory, that'd be appreciated as well.

Thanks,
Mark


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Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] The description of card "Posting on the website supports oneboxing." was changed to:

Onebox links in posts and in link columns in databases.

Relevant specs: oEmbed, Open Graph, Twitter Cards

See: https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/204399343-Share-links-in-Slack See: https://github.com/discourse/onebox

Relevant golang packages:


locked Re: New anti-spam measure

James Homuth
 

This is actually a very sensible default setting. Hind-sight being 20/20 and all, I actually wish something like this had been the default from the beginning. I used to subscribe to a 0 moderation policy. The list ran fine with the standard $person subscribes, then the network requires they verify/confirm their email address - which doubles as a check that yes, you really do want to subscribe to this group. I haven't had much of a spam problem with that setup, and this group's been running in one way, shape or form under different owners since 2001. Problem members were identified and moderated as needed, or removed outright, and that was the end of that. What changed my mind wasn't really a spammer, if I'm being completely honest. An individual with a well-deserved reputation for causing problems had joined the list and within 24 hours was essentially causing problems. I'd ban this member, so he'd create a new email address, subscribe, and continue to cause problems. It's because of that individual that I've turned on new member moderation, and this group hasn't seen a problem with that individual or anyone else since. I wouldn't call this group high-trafick, mind, but there are times when I'm spending a fair amount of time approving new members' postings. Between that and chasing down people who should know better, I'll accept the tradeoff in a heartbeat.


From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October-06-16 1:27 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] New anti-spam measure

Mark,

             Thanks for the clarification.

              I think that you are still going to have a hew and cry from moderators of "high newbie volume" groups on this, as it does require human intervention.

              I will again propose the idea of some sort of, perhaps global (as in not linked to any one real group), "Unlock Group," where, when anyone submits a request to become a group member, they are automatically directed that they must post there before they can have posting privileges elsewhere.  This prevents "moderators" of unmoderated groups from having to have any regular intervention.  It also prevents virtually any spambot (as opposed to human, which is rare as far as mass spamming goes) from ever having the floodgates open.  I can testify that this has been very, very effective elsewhere and requires no routine human intervention.
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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray


locked Re: New anti-spam measure

 

On 6 Oct 2016 at 14:34, David P. Dillard wrote:

> There is another option that I would like to see implemented on this
> groups network.  As part of the members list available to owners and
> moderators, these posting controls available for each member individually.
>
> This member can post without moderation
>
> This member is moderated
>
> This member cannot post.
>
> and any other options that make sense that I did not think of.

If you're a moderator with appropriate privileges, click on an individual member and you should find:



Posting Privileges
  • Default group policy
  • Override: not moderated
  • Override: moderated
  • Override: new user moderated
  • Override: not allowed to post
  


Does that cover your use cases?


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locked Re: New anti-spam measure

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Jim Poston <poston@...> wrote:

What about a key that a moderator can give out that will allow immediate entry into the group?  I guess that's just as much work as approving members for a Restricted group.

If you invite someone to a Restricted group and they accept, you do not have to approve their membership.

Mark 

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