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locked Re: Special Handling of Image Attachments

 

LAurence,

Unless the picture is extracted from a web site somewhere, it will
still have to be attached to the email.
There's a third possibility, the image might be encoded inside the HTML message body itself. See the data: scheme in the background info I posted on GMF:
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/756

As I understand it (which could be wrong), an "inline" image needs to be
in an HTML message because it depends on HTML code to decode it and put
it in the right place.
Correct. In a plain-text message an image can only be conveyed as a file attachment.

(And in some cases text readers won't show it at all because the message
headers are such that the email client doesn't realise the attachment is
there.)
An email user interface that works only in plain text, or one that is set to display plain text, indeed may not see an inline image at all.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Difficulty Viewing Archives

 

Hi Ella,

Hi, Whenever I view list archives I can't see the messages.
What's wrong?
There are many possibilities. The first "is it plugged in" questions are whether the group's archives are private (members only) and whether you are logged in.

If the blue bar at the top of the page says "Log In" and "Sign Up" on the right-hand side then you are not logged in, and cannot see private messages. You can see message in this group, beta@, because the archives here are open to the public.

If that's not the problem, please join one of the user-to-user help groups (links below) and post there with more details about what you tried and what you see. I'm sure we'll be able to help you sort out the problem.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Difficulty Viewing Archives

Ella Yu <ellaxyu@...>
 

Hi, Whenever I view list archives I can't see the messages. What's wrong?


locked Re: "From" on a topic

Duane
 

The figleafed part should be "xxxxx+owner@ groups.iogroups.io", without the space.

Duane


locked "From" on a topic

Duane
 

I posted a new topic this morning on one of my groups. I chose "Group Owner" as the sender. However, when it posted, it showed my user name and avatar. I would expect it to show "Group Owner" or "Group Moderator"(preferred for me) as the sender and an avatar for that account, if one existed, so that it could be easily differentiated.

I also noticed that while composing the message, it showed "xxxxx+owner@groups.iogroups.io" in the sender box. It does show the correct From, without the extra "groups.io", in the View Source of the post though.

Thanks,
Duane


locked Re: Special Handling of Image Attachments

Laurence Taylor
 

Nightowl >8# <featheredleader@att.net> wrote:

As John is explaining, I wanted to put a picture of our new car in
Hollow Tree. Since most of my friends use e-mail and not the interface,
I wanted to post the photo inline, not as an attachment.
Unless the picture is extracted from a web site somewhere, it will still
have to be attached to the email.

As I understand it (which could be wrong), an "inline" image needs to be in
an HTML message because it depends on HTML code to decode it and put it in
the right place. (And in some cases text readers won't show it at all
because the message headers are such that the email client doesn't realise
the attachment is there.)

--
rgds
LAurence
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locked Re: Special Handling of Image Attachments #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

Okay, I finally succeeded in posting the car photo in Hollow Tree.

Here are some things to note:
When I successfully posted the photo in GMF, some saw it, but one person says they didn't Any ideas why?

I had to not only change my posting preference in my profile to HTML, but I also had to set the group not to strip attachments. Fortunately, when I put everything back to Plain Text and Strip, the photo stays there.

I concur with John that it can be confusing, so I agree with John's suggestions about images only or telling you pictures aren't allowed.

Thanks, sorry for all the confusion,

Brenda


locked Re: Special Handling of Image Attachments #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark,

As John is explaining, I wanted to put a picture of our new car in Hollow Tree. Since most of my friends use e-mail and not the interface, I wanted to post the photo inline, not as an attachment.

I first tried to do it in Shal's Test, but I didn't know what to do. So I went in GMF and asked them. Then, after others put photos in and showed me how, I tried it in there, and after I changed my posting setting to HTML instead of plain text, it seemed to work in there.

So then I tried to put it in Hollow Tree, and it didn't work. I tried editing and doing it again, and it didn't work. Instead of annoying my friends (although some of them are wanting to see the car),  I went in Shal's Test and tried changing settings because John wondered if I needed to allow attachments.

I finally got the photo to show up in Shal's Test, but I don't know if anyone saw it in their e-mail because people can't reply in Shal's test.

But John has a good idea, for image or inline allowance in a group that strips attachments.

Also, does the mail client strip things too? The two tests Shal did with an inline photo gave me a broken image link in my e-mail.

I'm confused, I don't know how to assure that it will work in Hollow Tree, and I don't want to try again until I know.

Can anyone in here help?

Brenda



locked Special Handling of Image Attachments #suggestion

 

I noticed Brenda having some difficulty attempting to post a photo to her group, which is set to strip attachments. That apparently also includes images, even though the HTML web editor shows the image when composing the message. The resulting message shows no image in the group archives, and the mail received by members contains a broken image tag.

My suggestion is to add an "Images Only" attachment setting. Some groups might strip or bounce messages with attachments, because they don't want someone sending out BigBadVirus.zip, but they might not mind members sharing pictures with each other. This setting would add that flexibility.

If a group is set to strip or bounce attachments, either the HTML editor should not allow them to be added, or if it does (because you could send a picture as a private reply even if the group doesn't allow them), the button to post them to the group should display an error that pictures are not allowed in the group, due to its attachments setting.

Thanks,

JohnF


locked Site Updates #changelog

 

The main focus this week (and last week), were the changes needed to support the Enterprise verison (aka your own domain). It's almost complete.

Other changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Switched internal DNS resolution to use our own resolver instead of using Linode's resolver, to fix some issues.
  • CHANGE: Don't display Subgroups sidebar option when there are no subgroups.
  • NEW: When a member is added or joins a subgroup, the name on their parent subscription is used on the subgroup subscription.
  • BUGFIX: We weren't restoring signatures after a leave/resub cycle.
  • INTERNAL: Changed text extraction code to use the server version of Apache Tika, to speed up processing.
  • CHANGE: Process FBL requests from hotmail.com
  • INTERNAL: More logging to try to track down database code lock issue.
  • INTERNAL: Made some database queries more efficient.
  • BUGFIX: Lock issue with Slack sync utility.
  • CHANGE: Using ImageMagick's identify for image dimensions/exif extraction, because it recognizes more image formats and is faster.
  • BUGFIX: Short dates sometimes weren't being displayed correctly.

I will be off until Tuesday. Have a good weekend everybody!

Mark


locked Re: Applying names to members in the main group- carryover to subgroups.

 

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Mike Fay via Groups.io <mikefay8888@...> wrote:
Great- Thanks Mark I take it the change is in effect moving forward- but that any names that had already been applied will not transfer to the subgroups ?

That's correct.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

Nightowl >8#
 

Okay, Shal,

My friend called and said she accidentally marked a message as spam.

Does that mean you still want the e-mail she received, or is that not relevant now? I forgot to ask her to save it, so answer me fast. ;)

She was able to use the resubscribe link in the mail from groups.io to get back to the group page, but it had been too long to automatically resubscribe her. It said she was applying for membership, I watched her appear in pending and approved her again.

Hopefully no more problems.

Brenda


locked Re: For Mark -- A request

 

Hi Brenda,

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Nightowl >8# <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Would it be possible to change the lock-topic time to 4 weeks instead of 2?


The idea behind that setting is that it can be counterproductive and often confusing for the group to revisit older topics, especially ones that hadn't been discussed in awhile. When this would happen in other groups, it would feel a bit like Groundhog's Day to me. :-)

I think, for this group, it's worked well so far, so I'm going to keep it at 2 weeks. If you (or anyone else) come across an old thread and have something to add, by all means feel free to email me directly. I always appreciate your input.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

 

Scratch that, have now confirmed that the member tried to log on with her aol rather than her gmail address, which was the address she'd been using for the group. Her aol address, of course, was not recognized.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

 

I just an AOL member who tried to log on last night and was told she's not a member. She turned up as "pending" in the members list, looking like she'd submitted a new application for membership, which I then had to approve. I got the "pending member" notice but she never got anything (or says she didn't - I contacted her to ask why she'd submitted a new membership application, since I didn't remember her leaving the group and found no such action in the log). Only later did I realize she's using an AOL email address and may have been the victim of the automatic removal. However, she also has a gmail address, and there's a slight possibility she'd tried to log on using the wrong address. I don't know, so I didn't bother reporting this. I'm going to wait and see if this happens to any other AOL members. I'm mentioning it now only because it seems to have come again here.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

Nightowl >8#
 

Shal,

I'll see what I can do about getting a copy of what she received. Is the e-mail I received important to it too?

I'm trying to get caught up in GMF next...wish me luck.

Brenda


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

 

Brenda,

I have a friend who was unsubscribed from my Hollow Tree group, who
isn't even using AOL, she uses Yahoo. It claims she marked a message as
spam, and I'm trying to reach her, (she's long distance) to find out if
that is true.
There is a thread in GMF on this topic, I'd love to have a reply over there
if she can forward a (redacted for privacy) copy of any notice(s) she received, or a link to any Yahoo information on the subject.

However, is Yahoo doing the same thing as AOL in this case? Do you
know?
Yes, Mark mentioned it here (beta@), I don't use Yahoo Mail so I don't know first-hand.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

Nightowl >8#
 

Shal Farley wrote:>> I haven't heard from any, and haven't seen the "Dear John" message you send them, but if it doesn't I think it should make very clear that your action was taken at AOL's request - that AOL told Groups.io that he/she (the unsubscribed person) had marked group messages as spam.<<

Shal,

I have a friend who was unsubscribed from my Hollow Tree group, who isn't even using AOL, she uses Yahoo. It claims she marked a message as spam, and I'm trying to reach her, (she's long distance) to find out if that is true.

However, is Yahoo doing the same thing as AOL in this case? Do you know?

Brenda


locked Re: FBL turned on for aol.com members

Nightowl >8#
 

Jim Poston wrote:>> OTOH, those policies might become even more pervasive when Verizon takes over Yahoo too.<<

Let's hope not. That would throw a lot of people into a quandary.

Brenda


locked Locked Topics

Nightowl >8#
 

Okay, I'm catching up from August 15th on.

John explained there is a lock icon now at the top of the message, in front of the subject line.

However, there is still a reply option at the bottom of the post, and I thought there was going to be a change to that, I thought it was supposed to say "locked" or "this thread is locked" or "locked topic."

Am I missing something here? Clicking on the reply link doesn't do anything, but I thought it wasn't supposed to be there at all.

Thanks,

Brenda

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