On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 05:35 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:59 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

it seems that setting View Table permissions to 'Moderators and the Table Owner' does not stop a member viewing the table if they have the URL that contains the table id.

This has been fixed.

Thanks Mark,

If you try to access a restricted table by the URL it now just displays a blank screen. An error message of some description would be nice :-)

Regards
Andy

 

Hi Mark,

it seems that setting View Table permissions to 'Moderators and the Table Owner' does not stop a member viewing the table if they have the URL that contains the table id.

Regards,
Andy

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 07:22 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Peter -- Well, now I'm just being dumb.

Or, like me, you're dealing with email overload.

Anyway, I rechecked with this moderator and she no longer sees the "create/edit" button on the hashtags page. So although the mystery isn't solved I'm going to assume the problem is.

Thank you all for helping me with this!

Pete

I have done sufficient testing with PDF files and .txt files to be certain that text indexing that happened to old files is no longer happening with new files. 

Discussed in GMF at https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/76990562

I am the owner of a group used for a condo association. The group was started on 03/19/19 so is grandfathered in to have more features than newly created groups.  We have stored files in folders in the file section, including folder for "Board Minutes" with sub folders for each year.  Board minutes are stored as "Print to PDF" files and are searchable.
 
I open a PDF file that was uploaded last year and find an uncommon word in it.
I search for the word using the PDF reader and it is found.
I search for the word using the groups.io Files/Search and the file shows up in the results

I upload a new file (created from Print to PDF from MS Word) with the word "abracadabra" in it.
I search for the word abracadabra using the groups.io Files/Search and the file does not show up in the results.

Mark

I have a number of emails going back to last Wednesday that still have not emailed out to members. I have provided support with the message ID numbers. Should we do a new support ticket?

Thank you

Thanks Mark. I know the ICS stuff has been a game a Whack-A-Mole for you.
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Kenny Paul, Technical Program Manager for ONAP
The Linux Foundation
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Thanks Bruce.  good call, but I've already tried that.  The requirements list is coincidently one that was renamed, but the generation of new subscriptions has not resolved the problem.  Also there are numerous lists that have not changed since the original port to Gio over 2 years ago are also impacted by the same behavior.
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Kenny Paul, Technical Program Manager for ONAP
The Linux Foundation
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Hi Mark,

If one group's settings is FollowingOnly and they click on the Follow This Topic link at the footer of an emailed message from the group, as expected they are taken to the Follow this Yes/No page (which btw still uses "thread" instead of "topic").

If one clicks on No there however, it does the same thing as Yes does, adds it to your FollowedTopics list and lands you in the FollowedTopics page.

Cheers,
Christos

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 07:21 PM, Kenny Paul wrote:

Gsuite account, non-gsuite account, old account, new account, I just cannot get stuff to work in any consistent fashion.

If you change the name of a group/subgroup that also affects the feed address. You will have to click the Subscribe to Calendar button again to get a new GIO feed and re-sub that to the Google calendar.

Does that help?

I am not aware of any way to go in the other direction (i.e.: subscribe a Google calendar to groups.io). Others more knowledgeable than I am may have ideas.

Regards,
Bruce

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 07:10 PM, I wrote:

Discrepancies:  

• My Owner account is not actually moderated. The message went into moderation because it contained a new hashtag.
• I did not add the hashtag before approving the message. The act of approving the message added the hashtag and generated both log entries.

Peter -- Well, now I'm just being dumb.

Apparently, my Owner account was actually moderated in my test group. I must have left it that way from some previous test I was doing. So it actually did go into moderation for that reason, and the log entry was correct.

What actually happens [under normal circumstances] is that incoming emails with new hashtags, when sent by Moderators/Owners, override the group hashtag setting -- going directly into the message base and generating those two log entries -- without any further intervention by anybody.

If you haven't given this person the permission to create new hashtags this certainly does seem like a way to circumvent that.

As I said before, I'd prefer that Moderator/Owner posts be treated no differently from Member posts in this regard.

Duh.

Bruce

I've about reached my breaking point related to Gio cal vs. G-cal and the unhealthy frienemy relationship they have had over the past couple of years.   You can subscribe to the a couple of our Gio sub-group cals from and G-cal and they the work just fine and others just will not do squat. Gsuite account, non-gsuite account, old account, new account, I just cannot get stuff to work in any consistent fashion.  The community is in disarray at this point given the fact that so many folks do not use Gio natively and I simply have run out of ideas.

Random list where cal subscription works:  onap-arc@...
Random list where cal subscription doesn't work: onap-requirements-sub@... 

Ideas, help, xanax or tequila all welcome.

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Kenny Paul, Technical Program Manager for ONAP
The Linux Foundation
Pacific Time Zone

Hi Mark,

I searched and found that you mentioned in the July 24 site updates change log that "BUGFIX: Fixed sorting of Files section search results."
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/75779771

Apparently the problem has reappeared. (along with a separate FILES keyword search problem not finding files that are there but that will be in a separate message)

The Upload sort order must be using some other date field for the sorting, because it doesn't sort them correctly, in either ASC or DESC order; or it actually does sort them correctly, but it displays a different (DateUpdated?) field date which results in the list showing like it's not sorted correctly, something to that effect, see attached.

It only happens when the search box is being used, it sorts them correctly if it's not.

Cheers,
Christos

Hi All,

We are caught up with email delivery.

Thanks, Mark

Hi All,

As you've hopefully noticed, email has started to flow again. We have quite a backlog to work through, however, so it will take some time before we're caught up. I believe I've stabilized things. No email was lost, and the problem didn't affect any other part of the service.

I will post at least one more time in this topic when we're fully caught up with the backlog. And, probably tomorrow, I will post a #postmortem detailing what happened and what changes I'll be making.

Thanks, Mark

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Under no circumstances are messages actually bounced based on this setting.

Thanks, Bruce. Yes, I'm aware of this. In fact I posted some time ago, either in GMF or here, about the inconsistent use of the word "bounce."

Pete

Folks, I apologize - I misinterpreted what happened. The moderator in question actually added the new hashtag via the group website before posting the message.

However, there is still a mystery: As I said, her hashtag permission does not allow her to do that. I thought perhaps I had revoked this permission after this happened - but according to the activity log the last time her permissions were changed was before she created the hashtag. I'll investigate further.

Pete

Further nailing down the bug:
It turns out that the notifications are being sent for moderation in my group not because #file-notice is set to Moderated (it's not), but because my group is set to MFF (moderate the first message of every topic). So it seems the main issue is the log entry, which claimis that the notification was moderated because it's a "Moderated integration message" (it's not, even if you understand what "moderated integration meesage" means). It was moderated because it's being considered the first message in a new topic. And that's the secondary issue: each notification is considered the first message in a new topic, resulting in moderation. I don't think it should be.

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