edit their TO lines when they want to direct a message back to just the OP, rather than the entire group. As things stand, we can't do that here on groups.io. 

It seems what you want is for your members to be able to reply to the individual *rather* than to the group, via email - since you say "just to the OP." We can do that on Groups.io via the web, using the "Private" button.

But this was my question before, which I posed to Shal: is there really no way here to "reply to individual" via email? Perhaps I didn't understand the answer. In any case, that seems to be a lack, regardless of the "both" setting Jeff is suggesting. And if that lack is fixed (assuming it exists), then is there still a need for the "both" setting?

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

My. I see I have caused a lot of discussion and possibly some confusion. Shal has my suggestion right, though. To summarize:

I suggest an additional configuration option - per group - that allows replies to go back to both the group and the sender, rather than just one or the other. This allows easier editing of the TO line (and thus directing of replies in various cases) from an email client (not from inside the groups.io UI).

As it would be configurable per group, if it isn't right for your group, you wouldn't select it. No change for you in that case.

For us, it would help. I have 1750 people trained to edit their TO lines when they want to direct a message back to just the OP, rather than the entire group. As things stand, we can't do that here on groups.io. 

The biggest drawback I know of to this is when people don't edit their TO lines and their reply goes back to both the entire group and the OP. That can make for duplicate messages in the OP's inbox if their system doesn't eliminate them automatically. Most modern webmail systems to eliminate dups, though, and we moderators get surprisingly few complaints about this, even though I do see plenty of messages sent back to the entire group and the OP.

I hope that is clear. Our use case isn't all about archiving everything... it's about enabling communication. Most of the time that's to the entire group, but sometimes it's between individuals. Without this reply option the latter part of that gets harder for our users.

--jeffp

But only if it is optional per each groups' owners. This would severely
mess up our 3000 members minds if we couldn't disable it.

Oh I see, and specifically from an individual email through the reply
option the mail client has instead of the reply hyperlinks in individual
emails? So that you can get the original post to appear in your reply?

Shal, there's no way of responding privately via email?

But only if it is optional per each groups' owners.  This would severely mess up our 3000 members minds if we couldn't disable it.

We intentionally disallow Reply to Sender because it defeats the purpose of our group as an historical archive about our common genetic disease

that is duplicated nowhere else.

Bob Bellizzi, Fuchs Friends group

Jeff is talking about reply in one's email interface, not on the Groups.io site.

 Oh I see, and specifically from an individual email through the reply option the mail client has instead of the reply hyperlinks in individual emails? So that you can get the original post to appear in your reply?

Maria

OK, have investigated a bit further and discovered what is happening. Will report it to support

Sue

Maybe I am missing something here, but why not just use the "private"
toggle button so you switch the reply to "just one person in the group"
and you get the message history?

It's good actually because it shows us something that needs to be fixed. Could happen to any of us and the system should force you to create a subject line - at least on web posts.

Maria

Hi Maria,

Ooops, sorry, posted in haste. Didn't realise you couldn't click into the message but now you say that, it makes sense.

Sue

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

I've seen a few posts on @beta that don't have a subject - only a hashtag. Which means you can't actually click on the post to read it.

Can the subject be a mandatory field and can it not count a hashtag as being a subject line?

Maria

Hi Mark,

Playing with the database as mentioned in my previous message, I noticed a bit of HTML coding at the top of the page when viewing the actual table.

Thought you might like to know so you can tweak the coding to remove it.

Sue

Hi,

A while ago the subject of using the International Date Standard came up - in this message - https://groups.io/g/beta/message/6984?p=ID,0,,20,2,3923,1997797&offset=3923

I wondered if any further thought/action had been taken on it. There are no further comments on Trello.  Being in the UK, we would prefer to use either our date format of DD/MM/YY or, the international format of YYYY/MM/DD. We are wanting to create a database with a date column and would prefer to use our date style from the outset. If we were to set it up using the existing, American, format, I am presuming that it woudn't be possible to change it later. Please correct me if I am wrong on this point.

Thanks,

Sue