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moderated Changes to group description not working.

 

It says Your changes have been changed, but they haven't.

Thanks

Helen


moderated Re: +subscribe address is a black hole if email address is banned #suggestion #bug

 

Shal/Lena,
Ok, you've convinced me. Let's see if Mark agrees. I do wish the attempt would at least be logged, though, as Lena mentions.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: +subscribe address is a black hole if email address is banned #suggestion #bug

 

J,

Well, without a notice they would just be left wondering, think
something went wrong, keep on waiting futilely, just keep trying,
email the group owner, etc.
I concur with Lena. There are malcontents for which that's the better option. Any kind of response triggers them into renewed efforts.

Banned members are not necessarily 'bad people' who don't deserve any
heads up or communication. They just don't belong in a particular
group, for whatever reason.
I think that they are 'bad people', in the eyes of the group that banned them.

The fact that the moderators believed banning was necessary likely means that they were dealing with someone that is already hostile and attempting to get around the moderator's decisions. Or is someone like a spammer who doesn't care in the least about the group's purpose and rules.

The "non-bad people", who merely don't belong in a particular group, would likely get the hint at simple removal from the group.

I think they deserve the information.
The moderators are free to reach out to deserving people; and probably wouldn't have needed to ban them. If the mechanism informs banned people automatically then that discretion is removed from the moderator's control.

Shal


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 09:32 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:
display the entire message, even if it looks like part of the message is a quoted reply
Yay!
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: Fixed config error that would cause hard bounces to not immediately go into bouncing state.
  • CHANGE: For messages that we don't think are replies to existing messages, display the entire message, even if it looks like part of the message is a quoted reply.
  • NEW: You can now sign up for the Enterprise plan through the website.
  • NEW: Catch a couple of French reply headers when displaying messages.
  • BUGFIX: In the Subgroups tab, fix the archive privacy display of subgroups.
  • CHANGE: Don't fig-leaf the email address of a +owner message.
  • NEW: Can now sort by Reason in the Past Member view.
  • BUGFIX: In the Past Member view, some reasons were not being displayed.
  • ROLLBACK: Subgroup storage is once again counted against the parent group storage.
  • CHANGE: Upgrade Github API library to hopefully fix issue for people with more than 37 repositories.
  • BUGFIX: Accessing an enterprise group's main group using the groups.io domain would redirect to the wrong group.
  • BUGFIX: Single line HTML messages that start with 'At ' would be improperly collapsed.
  • CHANGE: Allow emails to group aliases.
  • BUGFIX: Messages with hashtags designated as special could not be replied to by non-moderators.
  • BUGFIX: Code blocks in Markdown weren't working because of spurious line feeds.
  • SYSADMIN: Track redis statistics
  • SYSADMIN: Upgraded backup machine db03 because it ran out of memory processing the queue.

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark


moderated Re: +subscribe address is a black hole if email address is banned #suggestion #bug

 

Well, without a notice they would just be left wondering, think something went wrong, keep on waiting futilely, just keep trying, email the group owner, etc. I think they deserve the information. Banned members are not necessarily 'bad people' who don't deserve any heads up or communication. They just don't belong in a particular group, for whatever reason.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:34 PM, Lena <Lena@lena.kiev.ua> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:32 am, J_Catlady wrote:

Bug: A banned email address
sending an email to +subscribe
If they
do send an email, it should be logged in the group and the email address
should receive a notice that they can't join because they're banned. Neither
of those now happens - both sides are left in the dark.
A banned person is left in the dark - good I think. Receiving a notice can nudge the undesirable person to use another email address. I'm against sending a notice. But I'd like all messages to +subscribe to be logged with the text like "emailed to +subscribe (not confirmed yet)".


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: +subscribe address is a black hole if email address is banned #suggestion #bug

 

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:32 am, J_Catlady wrote:

Bug:  A banned email address
sending an email to +subscribe
If they
do send an email, it should be logged in the group and the email address
should receive a notice that they can't join because they're banned. Neither
of those now happens - both sides are left in the dark.
A banned person is left in the dark - good I think. Receiving a notice can nudge the undesirable person to use another email address. I'm against sending a notice. But I'd like all messages to +subscribe to be logged with the text like "emailed to +subscribe (not confirmed yet)".


moderated +subscribe address is a black hole if email address is banned #suggestion #bug

 

1. Suggestion: When a groups.io member is banned from a particular group and the group is restricted, and the member is logged in, the "join this group" button is not displayed on the group's home page. For consistency, can the +subscribe address also be blocked?

2. Bug:  A banned email address can't, of course, be completely prevented from sending an email to +subscribe, but implementing (1) would help. If they do send an email, it should be logged in the group and the email address should receive a notice that they can't join because they're banned. Neither of those now happens - both sides are left in the dark.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #suggestion

 

Thanks for the quick reply, Mark.

It is good to see this request is already on the TODO list.
I hope it can be implement soon, as this function/feature is critical to groups that are focused on code and/or script development/discussion.

Until this feature is available, I will have a hard time convincing many of my colleagues to use groups.io.

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Jim Underwood
aka JMichaelTX


From: <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM
To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #featurerequest #request

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:43 PM, JMichaelTX <JMichael@...> wrote:
Please add a tool/button to insert a Code Block with syntax highlighting to the Toolbar in HTML Mode. This feature exists when in Markdown Mode, but not when in HTML Mode.


Thanks,
Mark 


Re: saving history or members page for past members in premium groups

 

Mark,

I was testing banning/unbanning today. I banned a test email address which had been banned and unbanned before (in prior tests). After banning it again today, it appeared in the banned list, but in order of the prior date it was banned, and indicated that it had been banned as of that date rather than today. Is that how this is supposed to work? 
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar #suggestion

 

Mark, thanks for the quick reply, and for the question.

So, no, that is not what I'm asking for.
The GitHub example is for inserting an image by URL.  So the image would have to be already uploaded somewhere.

I'm asking for the exact same function as provided by the groups.io HTML "Add Pictures" button:


  1. Click on the "Add Pictures" button
    1. This popup is shown:
  2. The user can then either:
    1. Drag/Drop an image file
    2. Browse to select an image file from his/her local drive
  3. The web page then 
    1. uploads the file to the Photos section
    2. Creates a link to that image file
    3. Displays the image inline with the text of the post
    4. It does not scale the image file, but does scale the image on the page when the page width is changed.
So you get a post, just like this one, where the image is shown inline with the text.

BTW, this same change should apply to the Markdown toolbar used with the Wiki.

If you don't mind, I also have a related request:  Add a toolbar button that will allow the user to select an image from:
  • The Photos section
  • The Files section
  • or just enter a URL
The  image would be displayed inline.

If you would prefer, I can submit a separate request for this.

Many thanks for all the great work you have done.

Best Regards,

Jim Underwood
aka JMichaelTX

(I am replying via email.  I hope the images and format are retained.)

From: <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 4:34 PM
To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar #featurerequest #request

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:45 PM, JMichaelTX <JMichael@...> wrote:

As a bare minimum, please add the "Insert Image" tool/button/action to the Markdown Toolbar.
_._,_._,_

To verify, you're talking about syntax like this: https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet#images 
Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar #suggestion

 

Mark,

To verify, you're talking about syntax like this:
https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet#images ?
Not meaning to speak for JMichaelTX, but I think it would be preferred if it worked more like the button he cited in the HTML editor: upload the image into the message (data: or cid:) rather than rely on the user to have first hosted the image somewhere else. I'm not sure how one would represent that in a markdown context though.

I suppose a compromise would be to have the button upload the image into the Groups' Emailed Photos album, or somewhere, and automatically fill in the http(s): reference. The key being not to require that the user figure out where to host the image nor how to reference it.

Of course, if a web reference is used, whereever you put it would have to be accessable by people not signed in to Groups.io.

Shal


moderated Re: Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:45 PM, JMichaelTX <JMichael@...> wrote:

As a bare minimum, please add the "Insert Image" tool/button/action to the Markdown Toolbar.
_._,_._,_

To verify, you're talking about syntax like this: https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet#images
Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #suggestion

 

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:43 PM, JMichaelTX <JMichael@...> wrote:
Please add a tool/button to insert a Code Block with syntax highlighting to the Toolbar in HTML Mode. This feature exists when in Markdown Mode, but not when in HTML Mode.


Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar #suggestion

 

Request:  Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar The Toolbar while in Markdown Mode is woefully inadequate.  It has only one tool/button:  Add Attachment.

Screenshot of Markdown Toolbar:




Whereas the HTML Toolbar is very full-featured:  Screenshot:



Of particular importance is the "Insert Image" tool/button.  Currently there is NO way to do this when in Markdown Mode.

As a bare minimum, please add the "Insert Image" tool/button/action to the Markdown Toolbar.


moderated Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #suggestion

 

Please add a tool/button to insert a Code Block with syntax highlighting to the Toolbar in HTML Mode. This feature exists when in Markdown Mode, but not when in HTML Mode.
In Markdown mode, like many other web sites/forums, including GitHub, you can type the following to setup a Code Block:

```applescript
on getContactEMail(pContactName)
  
  try
    tell application "Contacts" to set emailStr to (value of email of first person whose name is pContactName) as text
  on error
    set emailStr to "[ERROR] Contact Not Found: " & pContactName
  end try
  
  return emailStr
  
end getContactEMail
 
```
This would produce syntax coloring like this:




This is very important to groups.io groups that are centered around coding/scripting.
The Markdown toolbar is near non-existent, so we need the HTML Mode/Toolbar for important stuff like inserting images, and ease of use.

Thanks.


moderated Re: Problem with hide quote archive

 

Hi,

It now recognizes those French Outlook reply headers and will properly collapse them.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:47 AM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:
Example



moderated Updates to Trello

main@beta.groups.io Integration <main@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Subgroup setting to allow unmoderated posts from parent group members." was added to list "Messages and Archives".


[Beta] The blue label "Messages & Archives" was added to the card "Subgroup setting to allow unmoderated posts from parent group members.".


[Beta] The description of card "Subgroup setting to allow unmoderated posts from parent group members." was changed to:

See https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/5521080


Re: saving history or members page for past members in premium groups

 

Mark, thanks, yes, this helps. I'll probably need some time to play with it to see how it plays out. As far as what I would like to see about past members, preferably everything. The notes alone would not be too valuable in my group, since we don't use the notes very much. Minimally, all their +owner messages. Preferably, all their messages to the group as well.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Private Parent and Public Sub Group shows Sub Group as Private even though it is Public

 

Hi Jeff,

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Jeff Kane <jeff@...> wrote:

So here's the possible bug.  When I log back in and look at the sub groups tab under the parent, I see this "5 Members, 2 Topics, Private Archives, Last Post: 8:43 am".  That sub Group is set to "Listed in parent group, publically viewable archives" in the settings screen.  As I said above, I can log out and still see those messages.  So, the Sub Groups tab on the left shows the wrong details for the Sub Group when it is public under a parent that is private.  Not a big deal, just a little confusing.

Thanks for the bug report. It should be fixed now.

Mark 

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