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moderated Re: Event: Database Upgrade, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 #downtime #cal-invite

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Thanks. should  we let our lists know? Mine is low traffic  but will email servers etc be effected? Or are we pretty much ok?


Up to you whether to tell your group or not, of course. Nothing will change with the service, so your users don't have to do anything.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

Great, thanks! I would still (mildly) lobby for a checkbox so that the guidelines can "undergo maintenance" once in awhile. But no biggie.:)
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moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

Hi All,

I have changed the group guidelines to only be visible to subscribers. I have not added an active checkbox, because it doesn't seem to me that guidelines are something you would turn on and off on a regular basis. 

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
I'm sure it can, and I like the idea. We'll see if the person making changes agrees, or at least can implement this so we can give this a try.

Take care all.

On Sep 25, 2017, at 10:31 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I mainly just want to know if the public access can be made optional. 
J

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Well date changed could be a good thign in the guidelines as what if a person outside saw that, they made you aware of that for some reason and you were not the one that made the change, someone else did. Now, I'm not sure what mods have in terms of list access, but those are my thoughts with not enough coffee in me yet.
On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:57 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

That's interesting. I was totally unaware of that. Still, I think the "last updated" is sitting at the bottom of the notice like a fish out of water. It looks like it doesn't belong. 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

>
> Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
>

Since it's no longer possible to upload files with duplicate names and all of my files show the date they were uploaded, that would be the date of last update/revision.  I haven't found a place, other than photos, that doesn't have the most recent change date.  Unfortunately, it's still possible to upload photos with a duplicate name, so I have to check if there is more than one with a specific name and compare them.

Duane





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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm sure it can, and I like the idea. We'll see if the person making changes agrees, or at least can implement this so we can give this a try.

Take care all.

On Sep 25, 2017, at 10:31 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I mainly just want to know if the public access can be made optional. 
J

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Well date changed could be a good thign in the guidelines as what if a person outside saw that, they made you aware of that for some reason and you were not the one that made the change, someone else did. Now, I'm not sure what mods have in terms of list access, but those are my thoughts with not enough coffee in me yet.
On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:57 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

That's interesting. I was totally unaware of that. Still, I think the "last updated" is sitting at the bottom of the notice like a fish out of water. It looks like it doesn't belong. 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

>
> Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
>

Since it's no longer possible to upload files with duplicate names and all of my files show the date they were uploaded, that would be the date of last update/revision.  I haven't found a place, other than photos, that doesn't have the most recent change date.  Unfortunately, it's still possible to upload photos with a duplicate name, so I have to check if there is more than one with a specific name and compare them.

Duane





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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu








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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

I mainly just want to know if the public access can be made optional. 
J

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Well date changed could be a good thign in the guidelines as what if a person outside saw that, they made you aware of that for some reason and you were not the one that made the change, someone else did. Now, I'm not sure what mods have in terms of list access, but those are my thoughts with not enough coffee in me yet.
On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:57 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

That's interesting. I was totally unaware of that. Still, I think the "last updated" is sitting at the bottom of the notice like a fish out of water. It looks like it doesn't belong. 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

>
> Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
>

Since it's no longer possible to upload files with duplicate names and all of my files show the date they were uploaded, that would be the date of last update/revision.  I haven't found a place, other than photos, that doesn't have the most recent change date.  Unfortunately, it's still possible to upload photos with a duplicate name, so I have to check if there is more than one with a specific name and compare them.

Duane





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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu




--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Sarah k Alawami
 

Well date changed could be a good thign in the guidelines as what if a person outside saw that, they made you aware of that for some reason and you were not the one that made the change, someone else did. Now, I'm not sure what mods have in terms of list access, but those are my thoughts with not enough coffee in me yet.

On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:57 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

That's interesting. I was totally unaware of that. Still, I think the "last updated" is sitting at the bottom of the notice like a fish out of water. It looks like it doesn't belong. 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

>
> Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
>

Since it's no longer possible to upload files with duplicate names and all of my files show the date they were uploaded, that would be the date of last update/revision.  I haven't found a place, other than photos, that doesn't have the most recent change date.  Unfortunately, it's still possible to upload photos with a duplicate name, so I have to check if there is more than one with a specific name and compare them.

Duane





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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: Event: Database Upgrade, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 #downtime #cal-invite

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks. should  we let our lists know? Mine is low traffic  but will email servers etc be effected? Or are we pretty much ok?

Take care and be blessed, and thanks for all you guys do behind the sceens.

On Sep 25, 2017, at 9:03 AM, main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@beta.groups.io> wrote:

Database Upgrade

When:
Tuesday, 26 September 2017
9:00pm to 10:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:
The site will be down for a database upgrade. Emails sent during this time will be queued and sent when the site is back up. This is a required prerequisite to switching to the new search system, and is the only downtime I anticipate needing for that. The actual switchover to the new search will probably happen in another week. I will put up a banner on the site during the day tomorrow announcing the downtime.

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moderated Event: Database Upgrade, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 #downtime #cal-invite

main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Database Upgrade

When:
Tuesday, 26 September 2017
9:00pm to 10:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:
The site will be down for a database upgrade. Emails sent during this time will be queued and sent when the site is back up. This is a required prerequisite to switching to the new search system, and is the only downtime I anticipate needing for that. The actual switchover to the new search will probably happen in another week. I will put up a banner on the site during the day tomorrow announcing the downtime.


moderated Re: fix "from" address in edited ("saved & send") message if edited by other than original member #suggestion #bug

 

J,

If possible I think this should be fixed so that the edit looks like
it's coming from the person who edited it.
I disagree.

If the moderator wants it posted in his/her own name there's an easy solution: post it him/herself (and optionally delete the original).

Shal


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

That's interesting. I was totally unaware of that. Still, I think the "last updated" is sitting at the bottom of the notice like a fish out of water. It looks like it doesn't belong. 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

>
> Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
>

Since it's no longer possible to upload files with duplicate names and all of my files show the date they were uploaded, that would be the date of last update/revision.  I haven't found a place, other than photos, that doesn't have the most recent change date.  Unfortunately, it's still possible to upload photos with a duplicate name, so I have to check if there is more than one with a specific name and compare them.

Duane





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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Duane
 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:


Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
Since it's no longer possible to upload files with duplicate names and all of my files show the date they were uploaded, that would be the date of last update/revision. I haven't found a place, other than photos, that doesn't have the most recent change date. Unfortunately, it's still possible to upload photos with a duplicate name, so I have to check if there is more than one with a specific name and compare them.

Duane


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:39 pm, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
so for me I would like to see the date something was last changed.
Are you talking about all files, etc.? Because that is not the case now.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm someone who is so used to using dates things were modified and last accessed in my works sited, so for me I would like to see the date something was last changed. Gives me a good feeling to know things are changed and or refreshed as times and policies of lists change.

On Sep 24, 2017, at 4:44 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd prefer not to have it and would request that it be made optional. :-)

J

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On Sep 24, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I doubt that the "last updated" date is necessary, but I like having it. It probably won't be noticed by most folks, but those that try to keep up will appreciate it.

Duane



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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

I'd prefer not to have it and would request that it be made optional. :-)

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I doubt that the "last updated" date is necessary, but I like having it. It probably won't be noticed by most folks, but those that try to keep up will appreciate it.

Duane


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Duane
 

I doubt that the "last updated" date is necessary, but I like having it. It probably won't be noticed by most folks, but those that try to keep up will appreciate it.

Duane


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

Also, why does the date last updated appear at the bottom of the guidelines page? Is this necessary, or can it be made optional?
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

I think it should be on the notice page, right with the notice itself. Also, we need to be able to uncheck the 'active' button, as with the other notice types.

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe visibility of Guidelines could be added to the Settings page in the Privacy section? Or have the tab/button follow the Visibility choice of the archives (only show for public groups)?

Duane


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Re: fix "from" address in edited ("saved & send") message if edited by other than original member #suggestion #bug

 

I understand not wanting a name in the edit. (The 'use sparingly' exhortation is not relevant to this issue.) But sending it from the OP's address is extremely misleading. Perhaps edits could be sent from a 'no reply' address, similar to the pending notice and other notices?

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2017, at 3:20 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I wouldn't want that at all. Moderator edits should only be used sparingly (IMO) and only for critical information. If someone really needs to know who made the edit, they can look at the post online and click the edit button. What I don't like is that it uses my account name and not 'Moderator' (and I don't have the option of making a selection), but am willing to accept that.

Duane


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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Duane
 

Maybe visibility of Guidelines could be added to the Settings page in the Privacy section? Or have the tab/button follow the Visibility choice of the archives (only show for public groups)?

Duane


moderated Re: fix "from" address in edited ("saved & send") message if edited by other than original member #suggestion #bug

Duane
 

I wouldn't want that at all. Moderator edits should only be used sparingly (IMO) and only for critical information. If someone really needs to know who made the edit, they can look at the post online and click the edit button. What I don't like is that it uses my account name and not 'Moderator' (and I don't have the option of making a selection), but am willing to accept that.

Duane

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