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Re: Force Display Name option
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 07:33 am, J_Catlady wrote:
Furthermore, the first time anyone posts, groups.io will try to harvest their name from their email address Actually, I'm not sure at what point groups.io does this, but I've noticed it and this was confirmed by Mark. Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Force Display Name option
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 07:16 am, Sugar wrote:
it sure would help us as owner’s determine if that person was not compliant in other groups or perhaps in the same groups and tried to come back using a different E mail. I don't see how it would provide that information. They can have a different display name in every subscription. Also, I like the idea of requiring a display name. However, the moderator/owner can just go in and create one for every member who doesn't have one (I do this). Furthermore, the first time anyone posts, groups.io will try to harvest their name from their email address and put it into their display name automatically. So I think the requirement to force a display name at subscription time might cause members more hassle than it is worth. I don't feel strongly about this either way. Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Force Display Name option
Sugar Lopez
Good morning I agree. I know that it is the individual’s right to do what they like, but it sure would help us as owner’s determine if that person was not compliant in other groups or perhaps in the same groups and tried to come back using a different E mail. Thank you for your consideration. What I do when I receive a note that someone wants to join I e mail that is shown in the notice sent, ask them who they are how they found the group and then wait upon that answer, if no answer comes to me within a certain time then I do not accept them. I do this to protect the other members. Sugar “Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love, for I have put my
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ricky-KF5WVJ via Groups.Io
Hi, I would like to see an option for admins to be able to force members to create a Display Name when joining. We are in the test phase of our group and when people do not set a display name and we go look at members list it shows the email that was used to sign up with and we have no way of knowing who it belongs to unless we know the person's email address.
thanks, ricky-kf5wvj
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Force Display Name option
Hi, I would like to see an option for admins to be able to force members to create a Display Name when joining. We are in the test phase of our group and when people do not set a display name and we go look at members list it shows the email that was used to sign up with and we have no way of knowing who it belongs to unless we know the person's email address. thanks, ricky-kf5wvj
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Recently Posted Photos
This has probaby been discussed before, and probably ties in with the
thread on pinned topics. Our group has a section 'recently posted photos' on its homepage. Is it possible to disable this in the settings? Although we will occasionally upload photos it is quite rare and far from the normal use of the group. At the moment it is showing an image embedded in one of our test mails, which seems totally pointless and confusing anyway as it only shows a small section of it. So can we disable this function, or if not at the moment add the option? Thanks Dave http://davesergeant.com
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
Just to clarify, while they are 'pending' can they read posts? Our
private groups (when it goes live) is set that only members can read messages and it is important that remains the case. If that is the case, and they can only view our homepage and little else, I don't see a problem. Dave On 28 Feb 2017 at 13:40, Mark Fletcher wrote: Right now, the system treats not confirmed accounts as regular http://davesergeant.com
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 01:40 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
In addition to a subscription queue, how about if the system automatically sends a confirmation email (daily?), then toss the account if it hasn't been confirmed within some time frame (a week?) I don't believe there's a way for someone that is confirmed to go back to NC, only bouncing, so this might also be useful for busy mods. Duane
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Updates to Trello
beta@groups.io Integration <beta@...>
[Beta] New comment on card "Ability to have a waitlist for an event." by Mark Fletcher:
Done.
[Beta] The card "Ability to have a waitlist for an event." was archived.
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Re: Do Admin Notices now get more "preview space"?
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 02:49 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
You can designate one wiki page as a banner, which getsI also like this idea. I was going to mention that some groups like to pin topics to the top not because they have administrative information in them, but so that people can find them easily and post to them on an ongoing basis. An example would be an "Introduce yourself to the group" topic, where new members would post something about themselves all in one topic, and the group owner wouldn't want it falling off the front page. These kinds of topics don't need a five-line preview, though, so that's what makes this a good approach. If the group owner wants to call attention to the sticky topic, that can be part of the wiki banner displayed at the top. JohnF
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 01:40 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Maybe not activate group subscription flow until the address is confirmed? (And have those expire after x days if it doesn't happen?) Basically, queue the subscriptions until confirmed. Many of the NC that I see on my groups are folks that mistyped the email address, so it could never be confirmed. I go in now and then to delete the extraneous ones. Duane
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Updates to Trello
beta@groups.io Integration <beta@...>
[Beta] New card "Ability to mark a wiki page as a banner, and revert large sized sticky posts." was added to list "Messages and Archives".
[Beta] The blue label "Messages & Archives" was added to the card "Ability to mark a wiki page as a banner, and revert large sized sticky posts.".
[Beta] The description of card "Ability to mark a wiki page as a banner, and revert large sized sticky posts." was changed to:
Sticky posts will no longer be displayed with 5 lines. Also, you will be able to mark a wiki page as a 'banner', and it will be displayed in its entirety at the beginning of the archives. Banners can be dismissed, and that will be remembered, until/when the wiki page is updated.
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 01:40 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I could do something like you could join a group as not confirmed, but the subscription doesn't become real until you confirm? That sounds to me like what's being done already, so it must be semantics and what you mean by "doesn't become real." Not sure what you mean by a "real" subscription. Right now, aren't the NC members "not real" members in the sense that they don't have access to the group, don't receive and can't post messages, etc.? How would this change? Our group doesn't have the problem with bogus subscriptions. In the case of the members who can't confirm, the members have always been legitimate, but just haven't been able to find their confirmation emails, even in their spam folders. This seems to be more infrequent lately than before, so I have no real stake in this and no strong opinion. Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Do Admin Notices now get more "preview space"?
Mark, I would probably never use the banner, but I am happy with the normal display of pinned messages and the lack of limitation on them. I still would love a "Group FAQs" section. :-) Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Do Admin Notices now get more "preview space"?
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Mark, I think that's a good approach.
-- Brian The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~Bertrand Russell
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
Mark,
What, if anything, should I change about this? I've gotten severalWhat is it the restricted group mods don't like? That is, it is perilous to suggest mitigation ideas when I don't know what it is they don't like having to "deal with". Is it the pending member notification? Maybe that can be deferred until the person confirms. Or maybe notification of an unconfirmed pending member is a separate notification checkbox. Is it the mere presence of these NC members in their Members list? I don't see much hope for that without breaking the ability for mods to help legit but NC members get confirmed. Maybe a "confirmed only" view of the list in addition to Moderators, Pending, Bouncing and Banned? Shal https://groups.io/g/Group_Help https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum
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Re: Do Admin Notices now get more "preview space"?
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 02:49 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Sounds like a very reasonable compromise that could be adapted to fit most (all?) of the uses noted here. Duane
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Jim Ruby <jim@...> wrote:
The issue is more that the group owners don't want to be bothered at all by these bogus accounts. At the least, making them confirm the accounts before getting added (or pending) to a group. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Spam/bogus join requests
Jim Ruby <jim@...>
Not sure if this is a good idea, but if they don’t confirm in an determined amount of time they can expire and be deleted.
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:41 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: [beta] Spam/bogus join requests
Hi All,
I've gotten several reports of groups getting subscription requests from clearly bogus accounts, and I can see it in the logs (a single IP address will go through and subscribe to a bunch of groups using different email addresses). These email addresses never confirm themselves.
Right now, the system treats not confirmed accounts as regular accounts for the sake of subscribing to groups. They can't post or do anything else, but they can subscribe to groups and they do show up in member lists, so owners can see that they're there and can force another confirmation email to be sent to them if needed.
What, if anything, should I change about this? I've gotten several complaints from restricted groups that have to deal with these bogus subscriptions. I can make it so that you can't join a group until you confirm your account, but that interrupts the subscription flow. I could do something like you could join a group as not confirmed, but the subscription doesn't become real until you confirm? I'd appreciate any ideas.
Thanks, Mark
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Re: Do Admin Notices now get more "preview space"?
Hi All, Here's my proposal: You can designate one wiki page as a banner, which gets displayed at the top, completely (so don't make it too long). This can be dismissed and won't re-appear until/when that wiki page is updated. Then we change 'normal' pinned messages to be displayed again as normal messages. You can continue to pin as many messages as your heart desires. Thoughts? Thanks, Mark
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:
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Re: Yahoo Easy Group Transfer
Haha difficult to believe.;) J Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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