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moderated Re: fix "from" address in edited ("saved & send") message if edited by other than original member #suggestion #bug

 

I understand not wanting a name in the edit. (The 'use sparingly' exhortation is not relevant to this issue.) But sending it from the OP's address is extremely misleading. Perhaps edits could be sent from a 'no reply' address, similar to the pending notice and other notices?

J

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On Sep 23, 2017, at 3:20 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I wouldn't want that at all. Moderator edits should only be used sparingly (IMO) and only for critical information. If someone really needs to know who made the edit, they can look at the post online and click the edit button. What I don't like is that it uses my account name and not 'Moderator' (and I don't have the option of making a selection), but am willing to accept that.

Duane


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moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

Duane
 

Maybe visibility of Guidelines could be added to the Settings page in the Privacy section? Or have the tab/button follow the Visibility choice of the archives (only show for public groups)?

Duane


moderated Re: fix "from" address in edited ("saved & send") message if edited by other than original member #suggestion #bug

Duane
 

I wouldn't want that at all. Moderator edits should only be used sparingly (IMO) and only for critical information. If someone really needs to know who made the edit, they can look at the post online and click the edit button. What I don't like is that it uses my account name and not 'Moderator' (and I don't have the option of making a selection), but am willing to accept that.

Duane


moderated fix "from" address in edited ("saved & send") message if edited by other than original member #suggestion #bug

 

If member/moderator A edits a message by member B and selects "save and send," the message sent out looks like it's coming from member B. This just happened to me in one of my groups and totally confused the heck out of me. I saw the email coming (allegedly, according to groups.io) from the member whose message it was. I kept looking at the email, double checking, and thinking how weird it was that he edited his own message to make the same changes I just made to it (namely, linkify a couple of unlinked intended links). I kept waiting for my own edit of his message to come through. I finally realized that was IT - it was just sent under his name.

If possible I think this should be fixed so that the edit looks like it's coming from the person who edited it. 
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moderated Re: "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

p.s. In order to temporarily rectify this situation, I removed the content from our group guidelines notice because unfortunately, there was no way to remove the "active" checkmark. I had to cut and paste the content into a separate document for temporary saving.

So my second request is that it should be possible to have a Guidelines notice and put it in and out of use temporarily by unchecking "active."
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moderated "Guidelines" now publicly visible! #suggestion #bug

 

I happened to be logged out of groups.io, went to my group's home page, and discovered that the Guidelines tab, and the content contained therein, is now publicly visible, even though our group is private!

I was shocked. Can this be made an option? Is the idea that potential members should have access to a group's guidelines before they join? I disagree. Before the Guidelines tab (which was created, as I understood and lobbied for it at the time, solely for convenience, easier maintenance and monthly notices, etc.), our group guidelines were not publicly visible. I see no reason to make them visible now. 
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moderated Re: Text Size for "An RSVP is requested" #cal-notice #cal-reminder

Douglas M.
 

Thanks Mark! It does help having the RSVP notice located above the description.  I do look forward to some day being able to format all of the invite/calendar reminder as I can with the description area.  


moderated Re: Guidelines tab

 

Hi Mark, 

I saw the new wording re the special message option. Great!

A couple of questions/requests:

  • what is the "from" address of the message, and could it be possible to specify an option (group+owner address or other custom?)
  • could there be options to
    • add a specified hashtag
    • make the message a sticky
    • lock or moderate the topic?
Thanks!
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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Mark,

All the code is now written, but I have not yet decided how to do the
transition.
Apart from the eagerness to scratch that itch, one reason to do it the direct way would be if there's a likelihood that the process of doing it could reveal something you need to know to build the additional infrastructure. The risk is that doing it might instead (or also) reveal that the new search wasn't as ready as you thought, and now backing it out will take just as long.

On the whole, given that it needs to be done eventually, I'm content to wait for the additional infrastructure to be written.

Shal


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Donald Hellen
 

Mark,

Just my thoughts here.

As long as you have a way to recover from an "oops!" situation, I
would rather see the shorter downtime situation. Not to reduce
downtime now, though. If it leads to a better situation for future
system upgrades, with less downtime for future upgrades, then even if
it took 6 or even 12 hours of downtime, I think it would be worth it.

If you would decapitate the site though by doing this if it messed up
in the process, then take the safer route. But you probably do (and
should) have a recovery process from backups if the worst should
happen.

Donald

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 20:47:12 -0700, "Mark Fletcher"
<markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

The other possibility is perhaps a bit more risky and would require a bunch more work before I could do it. But it would only require less than an hour of downtime, is work I need to do eventually anyways, and would result in a system where I could make changes to search in the future without any downtime. I'll figure out which way I want to go early next week.
The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --George Orwell


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Quick update: I've been quiet on beta@ because I've been heads down trying to get the new search stuff completed. All the code is now written, but I have not yet decided how to do the transition. One possibility is taking the site down while I move everything to the new search system. That will probably take 4-5 hours (most of that is moving the archives, which is a bit more than 13M messages at this point). But it is not very risky and is ready to go now. The other possibility is perhaps a bit more risky and would require a bunch more work before I could do it. But it would only require less than an hour of downtime, is work I need to do eventually anyways, and would result in a system where I could make changes to search in the future without any downtime. I'll figure out which way I want to go early next week.

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Did another dump of the archives to the new search cluster.
  • SYSADMIN: Tested upgrade of database to Postgres 9.6.
  • INTERNAL: Completed work on converting system to new search cluster.
  • SYSADMIN: Revamped firewall rules for increased security.
  • INTERNAL: Now caching successful delivery information instead of directly writing it to the database.
  • CHANGE: When viewing an attachment, if there's an error from S3, retry an additional 2 times, for the case where a message was just added and the attachment hasn't had time to propagate to S3 properly.
  • CHANGE: Only permit changes to a group's plan if you are designated the payor.
  • CHANGE: In the Billing page, only show your payment history for the group.
  • SYSADMIN: Changed some Linux memory parameters on the main database machine in an attempt to track down the sporadic slow commit issue.
  • BUGFIX: Send confirmation email/send bounce probe were not working.
  • NEW: For premium/enterprise groups, 'Send Confirmation Email' is replaced with a 'Confirm' button, to confirm the member.
  • NEW: For premium/enterprise groups, when approving a pending subscriber who is also not confirmed, we confirm the member.

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark


moderated clarify "editing" banner for wiki pages #suggestion

 

There is currently no distinction between the word "Editing" and the thing being edited. For example, in editing a page called Future Sessions, the text

Editing Future Sessions

appears at the top, all in the same font, with no separation or delineation. 

In editing "links to favorite recordings,"

Editing links to favorite recordings

appears at the top. 

I think some kind of delineator would clarify these. Something like

EDITING: Future Sessions

or putting the word "editing" in some other font. Perhaps even putting the wiki page name in quotes:

Editing "Future Sessions"

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moderated Re: bi-monthly recurring even #suggestion

 

Thanks, this is great!
J

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On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I haven't figured out a bi-monthly option, but I got one set up for every 2 weeks. I chose Weekly for Repeats, then Repeat Every 2 weeks below that. I had to pick a day of the week just under that. I tried it with and without an End Date and it showed up as expected. If you wanted to make sure it never came out more than twice in a month, you could make it a 3 week repeat. You could also use Daily for Repeats and set it for 15 days, but it would move around depending on the length of the month and could show up 3 times in a long month once in awhile. 16 days would prevent that, but at some point you'd only get one in February for awhile.

Another way would be to set up 2 repeating events, one around the 1st and one around the 15th. You'd have to remember to update both, if needed, though.

Duane


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moderated Re: bi-monthly recurring even #suggestion

Duane
 

I haven't figured out a bi-monthly option, but I got one set up for every 2 weeks. I chose Weekly for Repeats, then Repeat Every 2 weeks below that. I had to pick a day of the week just under that. I tried it with and without an End Date and it showed up as expected. If you wanted to make sure it never came out more than twice in a month, you could make it a 3 week repeat. You could also use Daily for Repeats and set it for 15 days, but it would move around depending on the length of the month and could show up 3 times in a long month once in awhile. 16 days would prevent that, but at some point you'd only get one in February for awhile.

Another way would be to set up 2 repeating events, one around the 1st and one around the 15th. You'd have to remember to update both, if needed, though.

Duane


moderated bi-monthly recurring even #suggestion

 

It would be nice to have a way of scheduling every-other-week recurring events in the calendar. Does anybody know of a workaround meanwhile?
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moderated reword hashtag "alias" description on hashtag edit page #suggestion

 

Currently the "alias" description reads "This hashtag is an alias of another hashtag." 
Would be better as "Specifies the alias of a hashtag" to avoid the misinterpretation that the specific hashtag IS an alias of another tag.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated regroup hashtag page after deletions #suggestion

 

Currently when you delete a hashtag it just leaves a permanent empty space on the hashtag page.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Re: banner indicated "group awaiting approval" #suggestion

Sarah k Alawami
 

I thought it did? I remember it saying somethingn to the effect of "your group could take up to 3 days to get approved." or somethingn like that. I can't recall where I saw it though. That was a month  ago.

Take care all.

On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:48 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Would still be nice for the site itself to indicate that approval is forthcoming, in case someone is using the site more often than email.

J

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Cool, glad that worked. I was goign to suggest to check spam and all of that fun stuff, but glad you got it working.

Blessings and happy Thursday
On Sep 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Oops, I just got the approval email, so check that one off! :)
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu








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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: banner indicated "group awaiting approval" #suggestion

 

Would still be nice for the site itself to indicate that approval is forthcoming, in case someone is using the site more often than email.

J

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Cool, glad that worked. I was goign to suggest to check spam and all of that fun stuff, but glad you got it working.

Blessings and happy Thursday
On Sep 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Oops, I just got the approval email, so check that one off! :)
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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu




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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: banner indicated "group awaiting approval" #suggestion

Sarah k Alawami
 

Cool, glad that worked. I was goign to suggest to check spam and all of that fun stuff, but glad you got it working.

Blessings and happy Thursday

On Sep 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Oops, I just got the approval email, so check that one off! :)
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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


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