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moderated Re: New notifications #update

 

Mark,

They all bypass the group setting of moderating all messages. ...
This should be fixed now.
Ok, now they are held in Pending, but I can't Approve them.

Just now when I tried to approve a #wiki-notice by email nothing happened.

Earlier when I tried to approve one by web it ended up "claimed" by me instead. Another moderator also tried and failed to approve it, then deleted it instead.

Shal


moderated Re: GMF archive display format error In Topics view #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 08:58 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
This has been fixed.
Wow. That was quick. All good now.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: GMF archive display format error In Topics view #bug #fixed

 

This has been fixed.

Thanks, Mark


moderated GMF archive display format error In Topics view #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I'm seeing issues displaying messages in Topics view on GMF (Messages and Expanded views seem to work OK).  If I set my display preferences to infinite scroll I see this:



If I use use any other display setting (20, 50 or 100 rows) the display stops after the 'About Features Pricing' footer.  It's the same whether I use Chrome or Firefox.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Missing reminders #bug

Don Pottenger
 

It's worse than I thought. A repeating event that has been on the calendar since January is also not putting out reminders. This reminder was for one day before the event. It never happened. At this point I suspect none of our reminders are working. 

Since we have cancelled almost all meetings with reminders since the COVID shutdown, this was not evident until our first meetings again this week. This problem could have been lurking for 2-3 months since we cancelled several repeating meetings that had reminders set from Mid-March until now.

Don Pottenger,
VillasOfAda group owner


moderated Re: Minor notification changes #update

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:58 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
The following notification hashtags have been changed:
Has this change been reverted? I cannot find any in the #xxxx-notice format now, and I definitely saw them yesterday.

Chris


moderated Re: New notifications #update

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:20 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

I've just discovered a serious problem with these notifications.  They all bypass the group setting of moderating all messages.  It's causing mayhem for several group owners.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: make app/web notify apply when tags are added to existing topics #suggestion

 

Thanks, Mark. I even just now tried first adding the tag and then sending a message within the thread, akin to your "this is now fixed" messages, and there is still no effect on the notifications. This makes sense. Just some wishful thinking.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: make app/web notify apply when tags are added to existing topics #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Suppose I want to get web/app notifications for the tag #fixed in beta, to see when bugs (including ones I might have reported) are marked as #fixed. I don't think this would work because as I understand it, the notification only goes out when a new message bears the tag, not when an existing one gets the tag added. I haven't tested this but it would be great if the notification could go out whenever a tag is added.

Your understanding of how it currently works is correct.


Mark 


moderated Notify Members checkboxes #update

 

Hi All,

I have changed the Notify Members checkbox when uploading files so that it defaults to being unchecked, as before. I have also added new Notify Members checkboxes when adding/updating wiki pages and when uploading photos. They default to being unchecked.

I think of this as a stopgap measure until I can address the issues raised in a more complete fashion. I will work to come up with a proposal either later today or Monday.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Re: New notifications #update

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 04:31 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Seems to me that the hashtag's "lock topic" mechanism is best reserved to address Chris's concern about people replying to the notification
If I'm honest I am now wondering about the wisdom of that idea, for reasons triggered by Shal's comment. I simply cannot work out in my own head what the optimum (for which read least annoying) settings might be, and being honest again I don't want to spend much time on thinking about it until the situation is more stable than it currently is; with the end point of the development being as yet undefined, any "solution" could turn out to be somewhat short - lived.

Someone - Andy I think - brought up Shal's occasional point about "least astonishment" at some point, and I think that ought to be a guiding principle here.

Chris.


moderated Re: New notifications #update

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 09:53 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
Another thing I have noticed (testing some file uploads) is that if you lock the file upload topic in the archive and then do another upload:

a) the upload completes OK
b) a message is placed in the activity log to confirm which file was uploaded
c) no extra message is placed in the archive (as expected because the topic is locked)
d) here is no activity log entry to say that someone tried to send a message to a locked topic

I'm not sure if it is supposed to work that way or not in respect of (d) but it shows that locking the topic can also prevent new notifications being sent. I suspect the threading algorithm is playing a part here and a further upload in a few days time will generate another topic.
Seems to me that the hashtag's "lock topic" mechanism is best reserved to address Chris's concern about people replying to the notification (ref: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/25438).

For that reason I'd actually prefer that each notification appear in its own topic. 

Regards,
Bruce


moderated make app/web notify apply when tags are added to existing topics #suggestion

 

Suppose I want to get web/app notifications for the tag #fixed in beta, to see when bugs (including ones I might have reported) are marked as #fixed. I don't think this would work because as I understand it, the notification only goes out when a new message bears the tag, not when an existing one gets the tag added. I haven't tested this but it would be great if the notification could go out whenever a tag is added.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: New notifications #update

Andy Wedge
 

Another thing I have noticed (testing some file uploads) is that if you lock the file upload topic in the archive and then do another upload:

a) the upload completes OK
b) a message is placed in the activity log to confirm which file was uploaded
c) no extra message is placed in the archive (as expected because the topic is locked)
d) here is no activity log entry to say that someone tried to send a message to a locked topic

I'm not sure if it is supposed to work that way or not in respect of (d) but it shows that locking the topic can also prevent new notifications being sent. I suspect the threading algorithm is playing a part here and a further upload in a few days time will generate another topic.

Andy


moderated Member Status #bug

Duane
 

I ran into this bug this morning.  A member was Moderated.  I changed him to NMM, but the badge hasn't changed.  I've gone back in to verify that his page actually says NMM.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: New notifications #update

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 02:20 PM, Duane wrote:
I've just discovered a serious problem with these notifications.  They all bypass the group setting of moderating all messages.  It's causing mayhem for several group owners.
Confirmed. You need the hashtag itself to be moderated in order to end up with a pending message.

Andy


moderated Re: New notifications #update

 

For the record, I am loving the new push notification functionality. No longer do I have to go into the site, or check my email, to see that there's a message pending approval, etc. It just alerts me, quickly, efficiently, and unobtrusively. And if there is any particular hashtag I want to keep close tabs on, I no longer have to keep checking on that, either.

I don't see any problem with people not liking them because they have to be proactively turned on. I do see an urgent need to be able to turn off the message notifications, however. Shal's crazy-brilliant idea of setting the tags to "moderated," as well as to "no email," should work for most people meanwhile.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: New notifications #update

Duane
 

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 05:38 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
I've just discovered a serious problem with these notifications.  They all bypass the group setting of moderating all messages.  It's causing mayhem for several group owners.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: New notifications #update

 

Dave,
just to avoid misunderstandings: The above citations are Duane´s words. I cited them twice unintentionally and I fully underline them. In my message I then tried to specify the requirements of my groups.
Victoria


moderated Re: New notifications #update

Dave Sergeant
 

And there has been a flurry of postings on here as well, most of which
I deleted.... The only notifications I NEED are new membership requests
for approval and the linked 'new member' one. I don't care if somebody
has added a new file or photo, if it is important they will comment in
the relevant message thread. Or for that matter loads of long
#hastags-yourfavouriteextension which just makes subject lines long for
no reason.

Dave

On 19 Jun 2020 at 1:47, Victoria via groups.io wrote:

I did an informal survey of some of my members.  No one wants any/all
these notifications sent to them.  They don't care what goes on behind
the scenes, they just want useful information that is posted to the
group that may help them with problems.  Even as a moderator/owner,
there are very few that I'd want to see, mostly when something on the
group is changed - photos added, wiki page added/changed, file uploaded,
messages edited, etc. (and then via email, not instant browser
notifications) - but not notify the whole group.  There's already been a
flurry of complaints on GMF due to the notices being sent to the groups.

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