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Allow button tags in TinyMCE editor
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Mark,
As a kind of cheat, I've often used the HTML <button> tag to get the appearance of a button (with no action) where I document keystrokes. As in "Press <button>Enter</button> to start a new line". Inserting this in the Source code pop-up works, while one remains in the editor, but they get stripped out on save. I don't know if there would be exploit hazards were you to leave them in; so this is a low-urgency suggestion rather than a bug report. Shal https://groups.io/g/Group_Help https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum
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Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices
#suggestion
toki
On 05/31/2017 08:53 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
but the writing was on the wall even before VFO bought both Freedom Scientific and AI Squared.VFO bought Freedom Scientific? I didn't know that. I'm still reeling from the purchase of GR Micro by AI Squared. Window-Eyes support started going downhill then, into a geometrically increasing dive towards zero. because it is slated to have support discontinued in the foreseeable futureForeseeable future being May 2017, according to the support person I talked to yesterday. This is why I was wondering if it was worth testing with Window-Eyes. jonathon
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Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices
#suggestion
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Mark,
When using mouse hover over there is dead silence from NVDA and I often get "text" from JAWS, but nothing else, when hovering over the gavel, thumbs up, etc. If I bring up the list of links on a page in JAWS, there is absolutely nothing read other than the topic's subject (which is, of course, what's the link itself). There has got to be a way to make these indicators speak, but I'm wondering now about how this would be handled/handle-able when it comes to using elements or links lists in screen readers, since those icons are really not a part of the actual link to a message or topic itself. Jonathan, I've never taught myself enough Window Eyes to even try to test with it, but the writing was on the wall even before VFO bought both Freedom Scientific and AI Squared. At this point I wouldn't test with Window Eyes because it is slated to have support discontinued in the foreseeable future and Window Eyes users would be wise to take the JAWS replacement and give NVDA a try, too.
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Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices
#suggestion
toki
On 05/26/2017 08:42 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Still nada on hover-over with mouse using NVDA or JAWS on the gavel icon. Dead silence.Are you also testing things with Window-Eyes? If not, given that Freedom Scientific murdered it in the dead of the night, would it still be worthwhile to test for Window Eyes compatibility/usability? jonathon
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Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices
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Brian, On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Can you try it now? Thanks, Mark
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Updates to Trello
main@beta.groups.io Integration <main@...>
[Beta] New card "Moderated icon does not appear in topic with tag set to moderated" was added to list "Bugs".
[Beta] The red label "Bug" was added to the card "Moderated icon does not appear in topic with tag set to moderated".
[Beta] The description of card "Moderated icon does not appear in topic with tag set to moderated" was changed to:
It turns out that the gavel icon doesn't appear in topics tagged with "moderated" tags, and "moderate topic" even appears in the topic dropdown, as if the topic wasn't already moderated.
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For E-Mail Only Subscribers: Links at end of messages
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
I am hearing reports (and I hope incorrect ones) that using things like the "Mute this Thread" link at the end of a message is causing some sort of prompting for visiting the website and logging in.
Is this correct? If it is correct, why is this done? If you can subscribe, unsubscribe, post, etc., without ever having a password I'd hope you could use any of the thread controls at the end of messages similarly. If login is required, at least once, I will report this and post the process for getting yourself a password so that you can log in. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332 I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe
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Beta subdomain
Hi All, I've changed the Beta group, so that it's now main@beta.groups.io. I did this because I needed a couple of subgroups; there are a couple of long-term off-list discussions about various parts of the site (documentation updates, etc), and using a CC-list was painful. As with any migration of a group to a subdomain, everything's backwards compatible, so you should not notice any changes or have to do anything different. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Premium plan pricing rollback and yearly billing
Ginny T.
I second this, Mark. There are many who are not in the position to commit to a premium subscription, but would very much like to do our part (whatever it may be). Likewise, there are group owners who, for various reasons, are not comfortable in charging (whether assigned or donations) their members in order to foot a premium subscription - yet they too would like to support the business end of things.
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Voluntary (and even anonymous, other than to you) donations to Groups.io would be something that I think more than a few owners would embrace. Ginny
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:13 pm, Jim Poston wrote: I'm pretty sure I'm never going to be in a situation where I can pay for
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Mark, here are some options for group member subscription management
Impatient to start getting paid for the work I do supporting a couple of my groups. The membership fees pay for all the benefits of belonging to the group, not just the Groups.io list-serv and website -- in other words, mostly my labor on administering the group, the content I provide, and events (mostly webinars) we plan and produce. I have started using WuFoo to create on-line forms. (Dumb name, I agree -- but a good service). They have several payment integrations. One of them is Chargify, which allows one to set up and manage an array of "products" (each with its own billing options). I was playing with it today. I created a "test" subscription design for one of my Groups.io groups --I chose free 1 month trial period, $10 billed every three months, indefinitely. Other options could have included a set-up charge, expiration date, etc. Tomorrow I am going to set up a "product" for a webinar with different registration fees for different types of professionals. My initial impression is that it is very good.
Chargify is NOT a payment processor like PayPal -- you have to link it with one. I have pasted below the list of all of the current payment integration options for Wu-Foo subscribers -- they have vetted them for you! Smiling, Jennifer Christian WFDRoundtable and other groups
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Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices
#suggestion
Brian,
This is the only forum/mailing-list on which I participate that doesIt is on the wish list (almost a year now): https://trello.com/c/p0LGl6ml/38-ability-to-mute-and-or-follow-users Shal https://groups.io/g/Group_Help https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum
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Re: Control of sub-groups
On 27 May 2017, at 20:14, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Shal, I’ve reached that conclusion myself. Your question is certainly valid - as you say, I haven’t set out all the circumstances so I appreciate it might be difficult for others to take a view, but I appreciate the feedback so far. We are a membership organisation with varying levels of membership with different sets of benefits. I had thought to set up fora for each of the membership groups under one over-arching platform, as some of them can have access to other discussions. For the two groups I have currently, it works well under one roof, so to speak. I think the best option for this third group, given the bigger difference in membership, is indeed to create a new main group, which I have done. Thanks for all the input. kind regards Nick __ dUNMUR | member of the Association of Photographers http://www.nickdunmur.com http://www.the-aop.org
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Re: Control of sub-groups
Nick,
However, I wish to only allow posting and email to and from theYou can prevent them from posting in the main group that way, but you can't stop them from reading its messages. They can do so either by visiting its archive (unless no one can) or by changing their own email delivery to something other than "No email". ... so, short of having to create a new main group, is there anythingMaybe a separate main group for them is the better answer. It depends on what relationship this list of people has to the main list. If they're really not supposed to interact with the resources and other members of the main group, then the question is what advantage does putting the list into a subgroup hold, for you as moderator or for them? That is, what led you to choose a subgroup for them in the first place? Asked as a simple question because I don't know the circumstances, not as a challenge nor as a criticism. Shal https://groups.io/g/Group_Help https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum
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Re: Control of sub-groups
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:00 am, Nick Dunmur wrote:
The 'problem' with that is that anyone in the sub-group has to be a member of the main group and there's nothing to prevent them from posting there. You might want to put all of those in the sub-group on moderation for the main group, just in case? Duane
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Re: Control of sub-groups
I agree totally re not notifying people - that would be bad. My worry is that duplicate messages confuse and the sub-group would never be an active part of the main group
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Kind regards Nick __ dUNMUR | Photographer Member of the Association of Photographers www.nickdunmur.com www.the-aop.org
On 27 May 2017, at 17:54, JohnF via Groups.Io <johnf1686=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Control of sub-groups
I don't think we want to go down the path of "Allow adding users to a group without notifying the users that they have been added to a group," but you could make a custom welcome message for the main group that says something like, "Ignore this message, the next one has the information you need" or some other explanatory text.
JohnF
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Control of sub-groups
Dear all,
I wish to create a new sub-group of my main group, and will be using the Direct Add feature to get their names and email addresses registered and active. However, I wish to only allow posting and email to and from the sub-group by these members which I can can control by setting their main group flag to 'No email’ and ‘Not allowed to Post’. BUT…they will still receive TWO sets of emails from the Groups.io platform, notifying them of their subscription to both the main group AND the (relevant) sub-group. I don’t want to confuse the members, so, short of having to create a new main group, is there anything else I can do to restrict the ‘welcome’ emails that get sent out? Many thanks, kind regards Nick __ dUNMUR | member of the Association of Photographers
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Re: Premium plan pricing rollback and yearly billing
On 25 May 2017 at 16:41, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Based on the feedback I received after I increased the price of theHi Mark, I'm pretty sure I'm never going to be in a situation where I can pay for premium. But could you give us a way to donate? Strictly voluntary, of course, but it could be a secondary income stream. -- Jim Poston@vch-nv.us << There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. >>
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Site updates
#changelog
Changes to the site this week:
Have a good weekend everybody. Mark
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Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices
#suggestion
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Mark,
Still nada on hover-over with mouse using NVDA or JAWS on the gavel icon. Dead silence. It is also important that whatever technique you use for this will result in a verbalization if someone is traversing the page using a screen reader elements list, which would not show the icon, but should "know about its presence" even though it's not shown in an elements list. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332 I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe
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