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moderated Re: Database export as CSV #suggestion

Tom H
 

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 08:16 pm, Toby Kraft wrote:
Download the text file using the download button.
Rename the file with .CVS extension.
In Excel, open file from the folder, it will ask to convert the file.
Should end up with the data in a worksheet.
That worked! (Except the extension is .CSV) I was trying to use Share to get the data into something and, of course, all that transfers is the URI.
I had no luck with Sheets since the downloaded file was marked as a text/doc file and Android would not open it with Sheets.
Sheets opened the .csv file just fine on my device. Both Sheets and Excel were offered as apps to open it. 


moderated Re: Database export as CSV #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

Tom, Shal,
I managed to get it to work with Excel.  
Download the text file using the download button.
Rename the file with .CVS extension.
In Excel, open file from the folder, it will ask to convert the file.
Should end up with the data in a worksheet.

I had no luck with Sheets since the downloaded file was marked as a text/doc file and Android would not open it with Sheets.
Toby

On Mar 16, 2018 9:10 PM, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Tom,

I cannot find a way of copying the export display into either Google Sheets or Excel on Android.

In Chrome if you touch the menu (three dots vertical, to the right of the address bar) you can then select Download (the middle icon at the top of the menu). What you do from there I'm not sure, as I don't use Google Sheets or Excel on Android, but at least you now have it in a file.

There's probably an equivalent action in other browsers to save the page in in a file.

Shal



moderated Re: Database export as CSV #suggestion

 

Tom,

I cannot find a way of copying the export display into either Google Sheets or Excel on Android.

In Chrome if you touch the menu (three dots vertical, to the right of the address bar) you can then select Download (the middle icon at the top of the menu). What you do from there I'm not sure, as I don't use Google Sheets or Excel on Android, but at least you now have it in a file.

There's probably an equivalent action in other browsers to save the page in in a file.

Shal


moderated Re: Database export as CSV #suggestion

Michael Rickey (AF6FB) <michael.rickey@...>
 

Yes, that should work.

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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 17:03 Tom H <ve3meo@...> wrote:
I cannot find a way of copying the export display into either Google Sheets or Excel on Android. Would a download of a .csv file be the solution?


moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

Duane
 

It has always worked fine for me unless I click on the group name on the overview page.  No big deal for me because I use Topics most of the time anyway.  I've been wondering if this is a bug or it just never got coded into that part of the display when 'remember' was added.

Duane


moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

 

Never works for me and never has. This has been a thorn in my side for years, but I put up with it as one of the few downsides of Groups.io. I tried my best to get Mark to implement it but eventually gave up. I’m glad it’s now bothering others, becsuse hopefully, something can be done about it.


On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Whoops.

I wrote:
Usually I use the Your Groups droplist and that doesn't reset the choice.
 
Fooled me. It tracks you current preference (as the side Messages button does). So it effectively copies your current choice as you move from group to group.

I tend to keep multiple tabs open, so I hadn't noticed that behavior. Each tab keeps its own choice, thank goodness.

Shal


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moderated Re: Database export as CSV #suggestion

Tom H
 

I cannot find a way of copying the export display into either Google Sheets or Excel on Android. Would a download of a .csv file be the solution?


moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

 

Whoops.

I wrote:
Usually I use the Your Groups droplist and that doesn't reset the choice.
 
Fooled me. It tracks you current preference (as the side Messages button does). So it effectively copies your current choice as you move from group to group.

I tend to keep multiple tabs open, so I hadn't noticed that behavior. Each tab keeps its own choice, thank goodness.

Shal


moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

 

Bruce,

-- As a cookie that would be reset with each selection from the message display pull-down menu (and lost if you delete your browser cookies).

I believe that's what is implemented now. The selection is sticky per-group and per-browser.

Works fine for me, but I seldom go to a group through the Groups.io home page. Usually I use the Your Groups droplist and that doesn't reset the choice. Nor do I delete cookies regularly.

Shal


moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
 

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for asking.  Here are my thoughts.

Best -- As a subscription preference, so a member could have a different preference from group to group.

Good -- As a member preference...this would apply to all groups the member has joined.

Maybe -- Cookies, I'm not sure cookies would be a good solution if you use various devices and operating systems.  But would let ask the developers if this would work across platform and consider the level of effort. 

Others may have a different opinion and the development effort to implement the options may determine which one is justified.

Regards,  Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com




moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Al -- I'm intrigued as to how you propose this to be implemented.

-- As a member preference...this would apply to all groups the member has joined.
-- As a subscription preference, so a member could have a different preference from group to group.
-- As a cookie that would be reset with each selection from the message display pull-down menu (and lost if you delete your browser cookies).

Bruce


moderated Re: Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

 

Agree with this suggestion. I’ve been wanting it for years.


On Mar 16, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ <al@...> wrote:

Background:  When moving among forums the MESSAGE or TOPIC display preference is maintained.  See snapshot.  However when moving from the overview page to a group it is RESET to TOPICs.

Request:  Provide a method to maintain the user preference in all cases.

Regards,  Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com

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moderated Re: Database export as CSV #suggestion

 

Toby,

Suggest that the button generate a file with a .csv extension and send that with the headers as a download so that users get a file they can open in a spreadsheet program easily.

I prefer it as it is. Usually I copy/paste it into Excel
  o In the browser window select all then copy (Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C)
  o In the Excel window paste (Ctrl+V)

Being forced to download and open a .csv file seems like more steps to me. If I want to save the .csv file instead of copy/paste it is simple to use the browser's Save As command to write the window to a file.

Shal


moderated Feature request -- Set or keep the message display option preferred by the user #suggestion

Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
 

Background:  When moving among forums the MESSAGE or TOPIC display preference is maintained.  See snapshot.  However when moving from the overview page to a group it is RESET to TOPICs.

Request:  Provide a method to maintain the user preference in all cases.

Regards,  Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com



moderated Database export as CSV #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

This has been discussed in older threads but the current Export button just displays the data in CSV format in the browser.
Suggest that the button generate a file with a .csv extension and send that with the headers as a download so that users get a file they can open in a spreadsheet program easily.
Thanks
Toby
PS - checked trello and did not see an item related to this.  


moderated Re: Trimming long threads

Bruce Bowman
 

In Y!G, I found myself resigned to dealing with all kinds of CSS and other markup stuff in quoted text. Now that was REALLY annoying. Not seeing that in GIO. I'm not sure what Mark has done to eliminate that, but it's really appreciated on my end.

Bruce


moderated order of sending welcome message and group guidelines #suggestion

 

There seem to be some anomalies between the relative chronologies of member confirmation, sending of the Welcome Notice, and sending of the Group Guidelines (if set to be sent on join).

I have already emailed Mark at support about a frequent situation wherein group moderators are not informed of an application for membership in a restricted group until AFTER the requesting member has confirmed. (Person requests membership, receives confirmation email but not Pending Subscription notice, moderators are not informed. Only AFTER the person confirms is the Pending Subscription notice sent out and the group mods informed that there is a pending member request.) I am now writing to suggest that the Group Guidelines not be sent until after a member is confirmed - which essentially seems to be the opposite situation. Here is what happens, or happened:

Person requests membership, receives Pending Subscription Notice, returns the questionnaire within the notice, and has their membership approved.
Person is still unconfirmed, BUT is showing in their email delivery history that they received the Group Guidelines.

Since we are a premium group, we were able to confirm the member without the process of re-sending the confirmation email. However, this chronology says to me that the person received the Guidelines before they were confirmed. And that, in turn, implies (as I understand it) that they received the Guidelines before receiving the Welcome Notice. This is not good. I want to suggest that the Guidelines not be sent until the person is a bona fide member of the group and has received the Welcome notice.

More generally, I think that the process, the events in it and their relative chronologies, needs to be analyzed and possibly revamped overall.
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moderated Re: Suggestion for easier usage

 

On 15 Mar 2018 at 7:50, Dale Gloer wrote:

When I select a topic and am finsihed reading it I usually want to return to the
list of topics in the group.  If the topic is many screens long, that means
that I have to scroll back to the top of the topic text so I can select the
button that returns me to the list of topics.  It would be very convenient if
that button was also placed at teh end of the topic page thus avoiding have to
scroll to the top to find it.  Or have I missed something?

Dale Gloer
In most browsers you can jump to the top of the page by pressing the "Home" key
while holding down the "Ctrl" key.

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moderated Re: Suggestion for easier usage

Tom H
 

For keyboard users, the Home button should jump the page to the top.


moderated Re: Suggestion for easier usage

Dale Gloer <dale.gloer@...>
 

Thanks Gerald, Duane and toby - three suggestions that I never thought of.  Some days the brain is foggy I guess.

Dale

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