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moderated Number of messages per digest

M Parker
 

I noite that a digest can consist of at  most 12 messages. For a busy group, as mine can often be, this means that members could receive several digests per day. Is there any facility for increasing this number please? Or are there any plans to increase this number?

Margaret P
UK


moderated Subgroup home page change

 

Hi All,

These are the privacy options for subgroups:

Listed in parent group, archives publicy viewable
Listed in parent group, archives viewable by parent group members
Listed in parent group, archives viewable by subgroup members only
Not listed in parent group, archives viewable by subgroup members only
Not listed in parent group, publicly viewable archives

If a subgroup is one of the 'listed' settings, it shows up in the Subgroups page.

Currently, if a subgroup is 'listed/publicly viewable' archives, anyone can visit the subgroup home page. For the other listed (and obviously unlisted) settings, however, a non-subscriber/logged out user is redirected to the parent group home page. This creates the scenario where you can see a subgroup in the Subgroups page, but clicking on it redirects you to the main group page.

I think this is a bug, and should be changed so that non-subscribers can view subgroup home pages that are set to one of the 'listed' settings. 

Anyone have thoughts otherwise?

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Toby Kraft
 

Yes, I understand that and that issue has been discussed at length in several threads.  I was responding to the comment that "the field to put in the emails of invitees is gone" and clarifying Bruce Bowman's comment that some could interpret as the member Invite notice could be the entire invitation.  I think the mechanism of how the member Invite notice is used has been adequately explored.  
I do agree that the foreign language issue is an important concern and my guess is Mark has been mulling this over and will respond with a proposed solution at some point.
Thanks
Toby


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

 

Toby, since my members speak German, my German invite text is then surrounded by Englisch text, if I got you right. I ´d like to get rid of it.

 

Therefore I thought it might be possible to make our notices totally customizable. That´s what I meant in my first posting by disabling the boiler plates.

Victoria

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The email addresses are entered on the Invite page, not the member notice editing page.  Admin->Invite from the left menu.

If you create a member notice of type=Invite and mark it Active, it will be used on the Invite page for the customized message inside the invitation email.


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Toby Kraft
 

The email addresses are entered on the Invite page, not the member notice editing page.  Admin->Invite from the left menu.
If you create a member notice of type=Invite and mark it Active, it will be used on the Invite page for the customized message inside the invitation email.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

But, if you have a customized invite notice, the field to put in the emails of invitees is gone.

Victoria

 

I should add - if you create a invite notice and make it active, it overwrites the 'customized message' that is kept on the Invite page...  If you later delete the invite notice, the customized message is blank.  (where before it was saved from the prior invite)

 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:

That only affects the section marked "following message was included..." - the boiler plate above/below remains.

 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce



moderated disable boiler plates in member notices

 

But, if you have a customized invite notice, the field to put in the emails of invitees is gone.

Victoria

 

I should add - if you create a invite notice and make it active, it overwrites the 'customized message' that is kept on the Invite page...  If you later delete the invite notice, the customized message is blank.  (where before it was saved from the prior invite)

 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:

That only affects the section marked "following message was included..." - the boiler plate above/below remains.

 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

 

Also, the last customized message you sent in an invite will also be sent to the NEXT person unless you explicitly over-write it. Not being aware of this can be dangerous.  
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce Bowman
 

That only affects the section marked "following message was included..."
Oops. I stand corrected. Sorry.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

----- Original Message -----
From: Toby Kraft <toby@krafte.com>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:33:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [beta] disable boiler plates in member notices

That only affects the section marked "following message was included..." -
the boiler plate above/below remains.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@tds.net> wrote:

Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

----- Original Message -----
From: Victoria <dr.vcaesar@netcologne.de>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:12:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [beta] disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce, as far as I can see I cannot delete the boiler plate text which
means I cannot define my own message. I can´t invite anyone without this
text in it or around my own message. My suggestion is to make it possible
to disable the pre-defined texts in member notices

Victoria






moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Toby Kraft
 

Correction - the customized message is stored as a member notice with name = "(name not set)" and type = Invite.  So it is not lost, just no longer active.
Mark's thoughtfulness and attention to detail continues to amaze me... 


On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:
I should add - if you create a invite notice and make it active, it overwrites the 'customized message' that is kept on the Invite page...  If you later delete the invite notice, the customized message is blank.  (where before it was saved from the prior invite)

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:
That only affects the section marked "following message was included..." - the boiler plate above/below remains.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

----- Original Message -----
From: Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:12:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [beta] disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce, as far as I can see I cannot delete the boiler plate text which means I cannot define my own message. I can´t invite anyone without this text in it or around my own message. My suggestion is to make it possible to disable the pre-defined texts in member notices

Victoria









moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Toby Kraft
 

I should add - if you create a invite notice and make it active, it overwrites the 'customized message' that is kept on the Invite page...  If you later delete the invite notice, the customized message is blank.  (where before it was saved from the prior invite)

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:
That only affects the section marked "following message was included..." - the boiler plate above/below remains.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

----- Original Message -----
From: Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:12:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [beta] disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce, as far as I can see I cannot delete the boiler plate text which means I cannot define my own message. I can´t invite anyone without this text in it or around my own message. My suggestion is to make it possible to disable the pre-defined texts in member notices

Victoria








moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Toby Kraft
 

That only affects the section marked "following message was included..." - the boiler plate above/below remains.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

----- Original Message -----
From: Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:12:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [beta] disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce, as far as I can see I cannot delete the boiler plate text which means I cannot define my own message. I can´t invite anyone without this text in it or around my own message. My suggestion is to make it possible to disable the pre-defined texts in member notices

Victoria







moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce Bowman
 

Create your own invite message, make it active, and delete the old one.

Bruce

-- Sent from my humble desktop computer

----- Original Message -----
From: Victoria <dr.vcaesar@netcologne.de>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:12:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [beta] disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce, as far as I can see I cannot delete the boiler plate text which means I cannot define my own message. I can´t invite anyone without this text in it or around my own message. My suggestion is to make it possible to disable the pre-defined texts in member notices

Victoria


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

 

Bruce, as far as I can see I cannot delete the boiler plate text which means I cannot define my own message. I can´t invite anyone without this text in it or around my own message. My suggestion is to make it possible to disable the pre-defined texts in member notices

Victoria


moderated Re: disable boiler plates in member notices

Bruce Bowman
 

https://groups.io/static/help#membernotices

The boilerplate emails are present only to provide basic functionality for those owners who haven't defined their own messages.

Bruce


moderated disable boiler plates in member notices

 

I know I asked for this already, but it´s really difficult for us non-English group owners to deal with theses boiler-plates, for example inviting people to the group. For the invited person it is extremely confusing. Wouldn´t it be possible to just disable the boiler plates and send out customized member notices of all kinds in our own words?

Victoria


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 04:04 am, Duane wrote:
I had asked for the mute to work online quite some time ago, but it wasn't added as an option
I think Duane's would be a much more useful option than the one being proposed. Without Duane's option, and with just implementing the one being proposed, you may end up with 50% of posts having only the #other hashtag. What possible useful filtering can users do in that archive vs. in an archive with 50% of posts having no hashtag at all?

I would go so far as to call the feature useless. Better to allow muting on the web. 
 
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

I find it extremely irritating to find a #hashtag on my front page every time a calender notice is sent. Wouldn´t it be possible to set this function on default or eliminate it completely?

Victoria

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I might call the setting that you're really asking for something like

Add the #other hashtag to all posts without hashtags

which would cause the "Hashtags required" setting to be automatically unchecked, because you can't logically have both - with your setting, there is no actual requirement on users.

I could see doing it but I would be concerned that you'd end up with most posts having the meaningless hashtag #other.
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J

 


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

Duane
 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 03:53 am, J_Catlady wrote:
You could easily end up with nothing but the hashtag #other on all posts,
For me, that would be fine, if I implemented this.  At least the users wouldn't need to see the #cal-invite, #cal-notice, or other "official" notices and announcements that Drew would like to mute.  I had asked for the mute to work online quite some time ago, but it wasn't added as an option: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/368371 (Wow, 2 years already!)

Duane


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

I might call the setting that you're really asking for something like
Add the #other hashtag to all posts without hashtags
which would cause the "Hashtags required" setting to be automatically unchecked, because you can't logically have both - with your setting, there is no actual requirement on users.

I could see doing it but I would be concerned that you'd end up with most posts having the meaningless hashtag #other.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

Dave Sergeant
 

On 7 Mar 2018 at 3:53, J_Catlady wrote:

I think most people are aware of how hashtags work.
Until I joined groups.io I had never heard of them. Some groups clearly
use them to great effect. I find them just irritating extra text in the
subject line and would never have my groups set to mandatory hashtags.

Dave

http://davesergeant.com

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