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moderated Re: duplication of groups

 

Yay!
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: duplication of groups

 

Problem solved, I made the other group owner and owner on mine and he extracted the member list.  There were only a few posts so that wasn't an issue with lost information.  It pays to be careful setting up groups to check for matching names, and of course sending members to the wrong group because of a typo can happen anywhere.

Now to solve how to bulk delete unwanted graphic signatures from photo files.

Thanks all,  Steve L


moderated Re: duplication of groups

Bruce Bowman
 

Okay, if we're going to talk about it here anyway, that's fine.

Your message archives and your member list are readily downloaded, but there's no way to upload them to the other group via the user interface. You will need to contact Mark at the support address that J provided. I'm sure it can be done but it's unlikely to become a system feature anytime soon.

Bruce

P.S. I was misled by your subject line. 


moderated Re: duplication of groups

 

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 07:32 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:
You should try the GroupManagersForum first.
But there is no current way to do what he wants except by hand. I think Mark needs to be involved to do it any other way. Probably should contact him at the support address, support@groups.io.

I think it's sweet that the two groups have decided to combine. :)
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: duplication of groups

Bruce Bowman
 

You should try the GroupManagersForum first. The beta group is for discussion of new features and occasional system bugs. 

Bruce


moderated duplication of groups

 

I set up a group for a ham radio ic9100 and another ham not knowing moved his group from Yahoo (a good move) with the name ic-9100.  Somehow I got 50 of his members.  We have decided to combine onto his group but I don't know how to move my members and messages to his.

Steve L


moderated Calendar missing option for re-occurring events that are "last [day] of the month"

Paul Gordash
 

Switching from Yahoo groups to groups.io, I have an event for my group that occurs on the last Wednesday of every month.  In groups.io, the only options I am presented are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and maybe 5th.

This is preventing me from switching over.  What are the odds of adding that to the re-occurring options?

Thanks,
Paul


moderated Re: Subgroup home page change

Marv Waschke
 

Have you considered a panel that says something like "To view this subgroup homepage you must be a logged in subscriber to the parent group." ?
The problem I see with the current behavior is the users are not told why they are being sent to parent group page. That makes it look like a defect, even though the behavior seems consistent with the settings.


moderated Re: Subgroup home page change

Jeremy H
 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 03:04 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I think this is a bug, and should be changed so that non-subscribers can view subgroup home pages that are set to one of the 'listed' settings. 
 
 
Are you talking about a main group or a subgroup non-subscriber here?

For a main group subscriber subgroup non-subsciber then I would say yes, it should be changed as described.

For a main group non-subscriber (and hence subgroup non-subsciber) I can see arguments either way - ideally then have an option to make sub-groups (and their home pages) visible to main group non-subscribers, or not: either as a main group ('Subgroups visible to non-members ?') or sub-group option.

Jeremy 


moderated Re: DMARC and name in emails to +owner

 

Hi Lena,

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Lena <Lena@...> wrote:
In emails to +owner, if email address domain has restrictive DMARC,
groups.io necessarily changes email address in "From:" and adds Reply-To
with the unchanged adddress. However, if original "From:"
contained a name (for example From: "Jane Doe" <jane @ example.com>)
then the name "Jane Doe" is lost (Reply-To: jane @ example.com).
Please include the name in Reply-To.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

Jeremy H
 

People seem to have overlooked the word 'option' in Drew's suggestion.

I would say yes, there should be the OPTION to set a default hashtag which will be used group requires a hashtag, but one is not included by the message writer - and perhaps an(other) option to say that in this case, the message will be moderated; but if there isn't a default hashtag, then the message will be rejected, as (AIUI) at present. Or maybe also setting that message without hashtag will be moderated, so one can be added.

Different groups, different owners will have different views on what they want, if there are the options then everyone can be happy by choosing what suits them.  


moderated Re: Number of messages per digest

Duane
 

The digest used to have up to 25 messages, but it caused problems for some email clients - https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/12738

Duane


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 02:46 am, Marina wrote:
this would cause a disaster in my group.
No worries. Drew was just suggesting this as an option; nobody would have to use it. That said, I don't think it would solve the problem he's concerned about and I doubt it will be implemented anyway.
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Number of messages per digest

Lily Yapp
 

Increasing the number of messages per digest, or providing an option for "Daily Digest" would be nice. The Daily Summary is inconvenient for some if the group archives are private, as one has to log in before getting to the messages.

Thanks.


moderated DMARC and name in emails to +owner

 

In emails to +owner, if email address domain has restrictive DMARC,
groups.io necessarily changes email address in "From:" and adds Reply-To
with the unchanged adddress. However, if original "From:"
contained a name (for example From: "Jane Doe" <jane @ example.com>)
then the name "Jane Doe" is lost (Reply-To: jane @ example.com).
Please include the name in Reply-To.

A test (here I inserted spaces around @): original email:

Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:04:44 +0200
From: Lena-test <lena @ test.lena.kiev.ua>
To: lena+owner @ groups.io
Subject: there is a name in "From:"

body
The email forwarded by groups.io doesn't contain the name "Lena-test":

Received: from web01.groups.io ([66.175.222.12])
by lena.kiev.ua with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128)
(Exim 4.90_1 (FreeBSD))
(envelope-from <noreply @ groups.io>)
id 1ettLy-0005Xi-HZ
for Lena@lena.kiev.ua; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 13:04:54 +0200
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:04:44 +0200
To: lena+owner @ groups.io
Subject: there is a name in "From:"
From: "lena via groups.io" <lena=test.lena.kiev.ua @ groups.io>
Reply-To: lena @ test.lena.kiev.ua

body


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

Marina
 

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:44 am, Drew AF2Z wrote:


For those groups that have a mandatory hashtag requirement owners should have
the option of setting a default hashtag that would be automatically applied
when users do not select one themselves when posting. This would be friendlier
and more convenient than forcing users to choose one and rejecting their
emails.
I am sorry but this would cause a disaster in my group.
We have a set of mandatory hashtags and we ask (order) members to use them according to the type of message or request they are posting. In this way, members can sort out messages easily. Everything is going smoothly, especially as IO automatically discards messages without hashtags.

Marina


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:33 am, Shal Farley wrote:
They do, but not as conveniently:
Shal, 

I nearly answered Drew the same way until I realized that he is talking not about using the site rather than emails to block emails. He is talking about "muting" in the sense of "not seeing" posts in the archive.

I do agree that the muting process from the web is unintuitive and awkward.
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

Drew,

Online users do not have the ability to mute hashtags as the email
subscribers do.
They do, but not as conveniently:
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Help-Mock-up#Managing-muted-and-followed-hashtags

They aren't able to ignore all the "official" notices and
announcements that we post in our group and just see the #other stuff.
Again, they can, but only in a context that includes messages from all their group subscriptions.

A solution to this would be to have new checkboxes on the Filter (Advanced Search) panel which allows restricting the Topics list to those which have (or have not) been Muted or Followed. Yes, I'm still banging my drum for this feature.

You click on the "Hashtags" category; then click on a particular
hashtag. That will filter your view to only those message posts having
the selected hashtag. In this way you can view all the various
categories of hashtagged message posts.
...
The solution is to require that *all* message posts have a hashtag
(the "Hashtags Required" option in the group settings).
It seems to me that a far simpler and more direct solution would be to have something on the Hashtags page that you can click to get a list of un-tagged messages.

Shal


moderated Re: Default hashtag for groups with mandatory hashtag requirement #suggestion

 

Victoria,

I find it extremely irritating to find a #hashtag on my front page
every time a calender notice is sent.
I'd support a suggestion to exclude the system-supplied hashtags from the front page listing.

But that's a different topic.

Shal


moderated Re: Location of replies - Top or bottom

 

kr402,

What does it have to do with Beta?
It would have to do with beta if the Reply feature encouraged one way or the other. And that was discussed a long time ago here.

The result is that Reply is relatively agnostic: it does not by default include a quote of the original at all. You have to either select a region of the original before clicking Reply, or use the "Quote Whole Post" button on the formatting toolbar after clicking reply.

In neither case does the Reply function leave the text cursor at a particular location - the user must click in the text box to start typing. There is a very slight bias towards top post (bottom quote) in that if the quoted text is larger than the edit box, the edit box is initially scrolled to the top of the quoted text.

The bottom line for Judy is that it is up to the replying member, and how they use the Reply function or their email interface.

Shal

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