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moderated Bulk Upload issues

Tom H
 

I reported some things I ran into with bulk upload to files in this message. Further to it, I have additional problems with bulk uploads to both Files and Photos.
Files
  1. Not all of the non-image file types were uploaded. A subset of all the PDFs did not. I have to dig some more to find what else did not.
Photos
  1. Windows file manager did not allow me to select only image type files from the mixed bag using a filter (I'm sure there is a way).
  2. GIO did not filter out the non-image types in the selection dialog.
    1. The upload stopped when a non-image type was encountered. I don't think any file got uploaded from that set.
    2. Same issue as for Files re generation of thumbnails - a list would be faster.
  3. GIO did not allow for an additive selection dialog, e.g., select *.jpg first and then add *.png to the list. (nor could I find a way within the Windows File Manager - well, I did subsequently by using the Group by type feature)
  4. Not all the image files were uploaded - GIO reports 152; Windows reports 181 should have been selected. I have yet to look for the exceptions.


moderated Re: Group Description

Barbara Byers
 

I agree, Catlady!


On Mar 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I have nothing against features being optional per group when the involve actual functionality, but options leading to an inconsistent user interface over various groups seems inconceivable to me. Maybe that’s just me.


On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:22 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

My suggestion was to make it optional. I know it sounds easy to do, but I also know it isn´t. New fields need to be created and functionalities changed. Maybe when Mark some day has time to make boiler plates in general optional as wished by me and a few other people here, "group description" on the home page could be made optional as well. People who need it leave it there, others can do away with it. For many such items it´s nice to have a choice.
Victoria

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Re: Stopping posting of photos in the file section?

Toby Kraft
 

Two thoughts:
  1. On file upload dialog - display group setting on whether or not photos are allowed in Files section (popup/tooltip listing file types recognized as 'photos'?)
  2. Allow upload of zip file that is expanded on server into folders/files after upload  - previously suggested.
Toby


Re: Stopping posting of photos in the file section?

Tom H
 

I just got caught by this filter on my first bulk upload to a new group and also by an erroneous message. I had not previously uploaded any file and I wanted to upload a bunch, 499.

  1. The "Upload File" button is singular, implying only 1 file at a time, reinforced by the singular form title. However, I was pleasantly surprised that bulk upload was possible.
  2. Having selected all 499, I was thrown off by the subsequent generation of thumbnails, the completion for which I had to wait until I could start the upload. It would be more efficient to simply list the files.
  3. My file set included image files. I don't recall seeing any warning or automatic rejection of image files in the dialog to this point. The image files were all rendered into thumbnails suggesting that they were accepted.
  4. The upload proceeded to apparent completion (progress hit 100%) but was followed by a screen with a picture of a cat saying the system was under maintenance, try later. This message proved erroneous.
  5. On clicking on Files in the sidebar, 318 files were reported, not the 499 that had been selected. I thought it said 319 initially and then dropped by 1 but that might be faulty vision. It took some searching to discover this topic and the answer that image files had been blocked. It almost seems that they were uploaded with the rest and then deleted.


moderated Re: Group Description

 

I have nothing against features being optional per group when the involve actual functionality, but options leading to an inconsistent user interface over various groups seems inconceivable to me. Maybe that’s just me.


On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:22 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

My suggestion was to make it optional. I know it sounds easy to do, but I also know it isn´t. New fields need to be created and functionalities changed. Maybe when Mark some day has time to make boiler plates in general optional as wished by me and a few other people here, "group description" on the home page could be made optional as well. People who need it leave it there, others can do away with it. For many such items it´s nice to have a choice.
Victoria

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moderated Re: Remote Calendar #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

I agree it would be handy to be able to integrate our Google calendar somehow...not for updating, just for display.

I tried to kludge it into our group by putting an iframe in our wiki. It showed in the edit view but got stripped out when I saved.

Bruce


moderated Remote Calendar #suggestion

Duane
 

A topic came up recently that might be 'easily' resolved.  If a group uses the Google calendar (or any other) extensively, it would be nice to be able to get to it from the group menu.  My suggestion is to have a setting for the calendar feature to allow for the normal 'local' calendar to be used or to include a link to a 'remote' calendar that could be accessed from the Calendar selection on the left menu.

Duane


moderated Re: Group Description

 

My suggestion was to make it optional. I know it sounds easy to do, but I also know it isn´t. New fields need to be created and functionalities changed. Maybe when Mark some day has time to make boiler plates in general optional as wished by me and a few other people here, "group description" on the home page could be made optional as well. People who need it leave it there, others can do away with it. For many such items it´s nice to have a choice.
Victoria


moderated Re: Group Description

Barbara Byers
 

I agree, stay as it is.

Barb B


On Mar 11, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Douglas Swearingen <dougiebehr@...> wrote:

Just for my 2 cents worth, I think the Group Description should stay as it is.


Doug




From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:45 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: [beta] Group Description
 

J,

 

Well, it´s not a language issue alone. I simply find it redundant. There´s a title to the description already. I believe readers are clever enough to know that the text following the title is a group descriptionJ.

 

I post this in beta because I thought it could maybe be changed to optional.

 

By the way, I don´t think I´m so special about this. There were quite a few voices in this direction. Pre-formulated texts such as boiler plates and non-alterable titles generally make one feel being patronized, so as if, sorry to say this, group owners were not able to create their own texts for various situationsJ.

 

Victoria

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Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
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J

 


moderated Re: Group Description

Toby Kraft
 

my 2¢ worth is to leave it also.  "Group Description" is one of 8 labels that identify different sets of information shown about the group.  It is somewhat redundant in that there is only one "description" item but for consistency it labels the area of the page where the description is displayed.  Group owners may or may not type in a description that is self-evident.

Toby

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Douglas Swearingen <dougiebehr@...> wrote:

Just for my 2 cents worth, I think the Group Description should stay as it is.


Doug



moderated Re: Group Description

Douglas Swearingen
 

Just for my 2 cents worth, I think the Group Description should stay as it is.


Doug




From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:45 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: [beta] Group Description
 

J,

 

Well, it´s not a language issue alone. I simply find it redundant. There´s a title to the description already. I believe readers are clever enough to know that the text following the title is a group descriptionJ.

 

I post this in beta because I thought it could maybe be changed to optional.

 

By the way, I don´t think I´m so special about this. There were quite a few voices in this direction. Pre-formulated texts such as boiler plates and non-alterable titles generally make one feel being patronized, so as if, sorry to say this, group owners were not able to create their own texts for various situationsJ.

 

Victoria

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Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
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J

 


moderated Re: Group Description

Tony Moody
 

Hallo Victoria and Beta team,

I plead for the level of heading to be left as it is.
'Group Description' is redundant on the page but then too are all the other headings. However the headings are very useful as place markers when filling in the data for a new site. Please, for site development and for continuity sake leave the headings as they are. 

Thanks,
Tony


On 11 Mar 2018 at 17:45, Victoria wrote about :
Subject : [beta] Group Description

J,
Well, it´s not a language issue alone. I simply find it redundant. There´s a title to the description already. I believe readers are clever enough to know that the text following the title is a group description J.
I post this in beta because I thought it could maybe be changed to optional.
By the way, I don´t think I´m so special about this. There were quite a few voices in this direction. Pre-formulated texts such as boiler plates and non-alterable titles generally make one feel being patronized, so as if, sorry to say this, group owners were not able to create their own texts for various situationsJ.
Victoria
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Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
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J
  


moderated Re: Group Description

 

At the risk of posting another 'me too' comment, I'd like to add my thoughts to this. I can understand having "Group Description" on the settings page so one knows exactly what the text box is for, but on the home page I don't see that it does anything terribly useful. To me, the description immediately following the title is more like a subtitle for a book - it's just a detailed continuation of the title. On one of my home pages (https://groups.io/g/MILW) the line "Group Description" is almost an intrusion into the idea being posted, because the description flows naturally from the title. Users with text readers would never notice the loss, because it is subsidiary to the title.

Given a choice, I would agree with Victoria and vote to leave the line "Group Description" off the home page.

Just my 2¢ worth.

Dano

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J,
Well, here´s the title. It´s in German:
“Gesunderhaltung, Ernährung, Verhalten, Cushing und andere Erkrankungen“
It´s bold enough to make everyone see it´s a title.
And as far as I can see, most groups have a title which is self-explaining.
Victoria
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Where? Maybe I'm missing something.

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J


moderated Re: Group Description

 

I see your point. But perhaps sight-impaired group members would not.(Literally.) I think I’ve said all I have to say. I doubt very much that Mark will remove the heading or make it optional, but it’s obviously up to him.


On Mar 11, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

J,

Well, here´s the title. It´s in German:
Gesunderhaltung, Ernährung, Verhalten, Cushing und andere Erkrankungen“

It´s bold enough to make everyone see it´s a title.

And as far as I can see, most groups have a title which is self-explaining.

Victoria

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Where? Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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J

 


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moderated Re: Group Description

 

J,

Well, here´s the title. It´s in German:
Gesunderhaltung, Ernährung, Verhalten, Cushing und andere Erkrankungen“

It´s bold enough to make everyone see it´s a title.

And as far as I can see, most groups have a title which is self-explaining.

Victoria

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Where? Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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J

 


moderated Re: Group Description

 

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 09:45 am, Victoria wrote:
There´s a title to the description already.
Where? Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Group Description

 

J,

 

Well, it´s not a language issue alone. I simply find it redundant. There´s a title to the description already. I believe readers are clever enough to know that the text following the title is a group descriptionJ.

 

I post this in beta because I thought it could maybe be changed to optional.

 

By the way, I don´t think I´m so special about this. There were quite a few voices in this direction. Pre-formulated texts such as boiler plates and non-alterable titles generally make one feel being patronized, so as if, sorry to say this, group owners were not able to create their own texts for various situationsJ.

 

Victoria

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Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
--
J

 


moderated Re: Group Description

 

Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Group Description

 

technically, I cannot contribute anything to this matter
Victoria,

I don't think it's a technical issue. I'm trying to imagine this as a sight-impaired person reading the screen, and I think that "group description" serves a function in alerting them to what follows. 

If your issue is simply a language issue, then "group description" is no worse than any of the other English titles on the page. 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Group Description

 

Hi, J. and Bruce,

 

technically, I cannot contribute anything to this matter, f. e.  if that term “group description” serves any vital functional issue. I just find it takes space away aside from being another disturbing foreign term above my German group description.

 

To see here:

https://groups.io/g/cushinghundevital

 

But thanks for considering my issue

Victoria

 

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I think that there are some considerations made to accommodate the sight-impaired members of groups.io. I don't know if this is explicitly one of them, but in any case, getting rid of this title might make things more difficult from that aspect.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

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