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moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

I think that if one attempts to go directly  to a group's message/topic page and is not already logged in that
they will be taken to that page if they use the "email me a link to log in" function.
We have almost 3500 members between ages of 20 and 93, if I remember and since we moved to groups.io we have heard few issues with accessing the message/topic page
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moderated Selecting revisions in the Revision list

 

Mark,

In revision lists, for both Wiki pages and messages, the checkboxes on the left are used to select exactly two as endpoints for the Compare Revisions button.

The trouble is that the top and bottom revision are selected by default, and one cannot move a checkmark by simply clicking in an available checkbox - one must first uncheck the top or bottom (or both) before selecting a new endpoint.

This gets very tiresome for pages with many revisions, when the bottommost revision is out of sight below the current window size. Then one must scroll down, unselect it, then scroll back up to select the desired endpoint.

I propose that, when there are two checkmarks already present, clicking on a checkbox between the current checkmarks, or below the lower one, automatically move the bottom checkmark to the clicked box. Optionally, clicking on a checkbox above the current top checkmark could move the top checkmark to the clicked box.

This would be much more facile for the common case of checking recent revisions. I find that I almost never want to compare old revisions; most of the time it is the most recent revision against a somewhat less recent one.

Shal


moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

Duane
 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 02:48 pm, Tom Vail wrote:
All those features are tabs on the left
The ones on the overview page are different than the ones on the group page though.

Duane


moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

 

I don’t see them.


On Jun 3, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:

All those features are tabs on the left, which would not go away, and the "find or create a group" is in the upper header also not affected by the fact they do not have to click their group name in between signing in and getting to their group.  Maybe I missed your point?

Peace,
Tom

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moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

All those features are tabs on the left, which would not go away, and the "find or create a group" is in the upper header also not affected by the fact they do not have to click their group name in between signing in and getting to their group.  Maybe I missed your point?

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

 

I like the idea, but it would cause the user not to see the functions/features available on the main page, possibly forever (since, as you say, they may non-tech savvy and would never know to go one level up): topics, hashtags, calendar, "find or create a group."
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moderated #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

As it is, when a member signs in they must then click on the group they want to go to.  If they only belong to one group, why not take them directly to that group?

For the non-tech savvy folks, who likely only belong to one group (which is the case in our group) it would be a cleaner interface for the user.  And isn't that a lot of what we are trying to achieve?

Yes, I know it is just one click.  But if you are reading this you may not be able to relate because you don't fall into the "non-tech savvy" group.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Joining in subgroup without waiting for approving parent group #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

I asked this in https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/20817618 but was suggested that here is better place to ask. There is also some short discussion on the subject so it os good to se that topic too.

Her is the issue:

When user wants to join to subgroup he is instructed he has to join parent group first. If parent group requires approving that means he has to join parent, wait to be approved, then join subgroup and again wait to be approved.

This leads to people giving up joining groups for too much hassle. They meet with situation they do not expect, maybe even do not know how to handle it, especially it they come to group.io for the first time. It is simply bad user experience.

it would be good, it user want so join subgroup he is instructed that it means he will be also join parent group (with asking for his approval) and then do all process in single iteration. After all user cannot avoid joining parent group too, so why wasting his time in double process?


moderated Re: Comments under photos

Duane
 

Can't say how soon it might happen, but it is on the TODO list, https://trello.com/c/kpSLjUix/148-like-and-comment-on-photos

Duane


moderated Comments under photos

Annick Phillips
 

I've just joined this beta group so if this topic has already been discussed, forgive me (I didn't see it in a message search here). I am an owner of an IO doll collector group and a moderator on others. We migrated our groups here from Yahoo. We rely heavily on the photo function of these groups to share photos of our dolls and the clothing we make for them and would love it if we could leave comments below a photo as we did in Yahoo groups. It would greatly reduce the volume of emails in our groups if people could just leave a comment below a photo instead of sending a message about them. Any plans to add this function in the near future?
Annick


moderated Re: when membership is rejected, past members list should say "rejected" not "removed" #suggestion

 

Actually I've had a further thought that this may depend on whether or not the rejected member had confirmed at the time of group membership rejection. i have some "correct" cases where the member was rejected and everything shows up correctly. I'm going to try to ascertain whether the buggy case differs from the correct case in whether or not the member had confirmed. If so, this may be a (minor) design issue after all. 
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moderated Re: when membership is rejected, past members list should say "rejected" not "removed" #suggestion

 

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 09:52 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Neither applicant got past Pending status...but if they had, then "removed" would seem entirely appropriate, not "rejected."

Restricted membership group here, if that has any bearing on it
Of course this would never even arise in a non-restricted group.
This seems to be a bug, not a design issue, and I've already sent the example to Mark at support. The activity log shows only that the member was rejected, never approved. Yet the past member list shows them as having been removed.

 
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moderated Re: when membership is rejected, past members list should say "rejected" not "removed" #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

One more datum on this:  My co-owner has rejected two membership applications since we paid for Premium access on 24APR. These rejections appear in the activity log but there are no corresponding entries in the Past Members list.

Neither applicant got past Pending status...but if they had, then "removed" would seem entirely appropriate, not "rejected."

Restricted membership group here, if that has any bearing on it.

Hope this helps,
Bruce 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Benoît Dumeaux
 

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 09:53 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
BUGFIX: In the transfer interface, improved handling of how we scrape Yahoo Groups in different languages.
Can you give more details?


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Lots of optimization work on speeding up the creation of a new message search index.
  • SYSADMIN: Built a new search cluster with additional needed capacity.
  • BUGFIX: When exporting an event with RSVPs that allow additional guests, show the additional guest numbers.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed a database connection error with the Elasticsearch importer that was waking me up at 3am the last couple of nights. Zzzzzz.
  • CHANGE: Subscription Options and Muting & Following updates in the help (thanks Shal and J!).
  • NEW: Treat 'Cvp:' as the same as Re: in message subjects (it's Turkish).
  • CHANGE: Condensed HTML message footers.
  • CHANGE: For groups not set to reply to group, display the receiver's email address in the footer.
  • CHANGE: Do not permit group names that begin or end in dash.
  • BUGFIX: The display of groups in the 'Your Groups' dropdown could sometimes be wrong on the home page, based on how you were sorting that page.
  • BUGFIX: Use the subgroup direct add message for direct adds. Previously we were erroneously using the parent group direct add message and ignoring any subgroup direct add messages.
  • CHANGE: For transfers of groups with more than 100,000 messages, we ask for a year's premium subscription. Otherwise, we'll transfer the 100,000 most recent messages.
  • BUGFIX: In the transfer interface, improved handling of how we scrape Yahoo Groups in different languages.

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark


moderated Re: when membership is rejected, past members list should say "rejected" not "removed" #suggestion

 

Hi J,

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Could the "past members" list indicate "rejected" instead of "removed" when the membership application was rejected?

It should be doing that. Can you send me off list a pointer to an example where it's misbehaving?

Thanks,
Mark 


Re: Email address in footer proposal

 

Jim,

Whereas for those of us who read emails in plain text, as often as not (as with
this message) there are no footers. It seems to depend on the sender, which
presumably means it depends on how they send.

You are correct, and this is a longstanding bug.

Messages sent in plain text have the plain-text style footer applied.

Messages sent formatted have the formatted footer applied, but only to the text/html part of the MIME multipart/alternative message body. The text/plain part does not get any footer applied (I've argued that it should have the plain text footer applied).
 
Most of Shal's messages, for example, do show all the footers, with clickable links.

Most of the time I send plain text messages. Not this time, as a counter-example.

Shal


moderated Re: User and group export updates

Mark Irving
 

Might be helpful if group data included the Member Notices. (I've put a few hours into composing and editing some of these, and, while I think I have copies, it would be reassuring to know they were included in a full group export.)

  - Mark


Re: Email address in footer proposal

 

Whereas for those of us who read emails in plain text, as often as not (as with
this message) there are no footers. It seems to depend on the sender, which
presumably means it depends on how they send. Most of Shal's messages, for
example, do show all the footers, with clickable links.

Jim Fisher

On 31 May 2018 at 10:25, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi All,

I just tweaked the footers. For HTML footers, you'll see that the lines are more
condensed now.

For groups that are not set to reply to group, the receiving person's email
address is now displayed in the footer. Which will help me greatly for the
support emails I receive that say "I'm not subscribed to this list and I keep
getting emails, get me off this damn thing!!!".

Thanks,
Mark
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moderated when membership is rejected, past members list should say "rejected" not "removed" #suggestion

 

Could the "past members" list indicate "rejected" instead of "removed" when the membership application was rejected?
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