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Messages, Oldest First?
Sharon Villines
My lists are appearing with the oldest messages first. I have a vague memory of a setting for this but can’t find it. Showing messages from 2000 first and have to scroll through almost 18 years of messages is not good.
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Sharon
On Jun 21, 2018, at 9:21 PM, bruce.bowman@tds.net wrote:
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Re: Configurable date and time format options
Sharon Villines
What about saving the time the message was sent in all the messages? It's already there. Just hover your mouse cursor over the displayed date/time at upper right.It isn’t on any of my lists. Sharon
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Re: Configurable date and time format options
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 06:16 pm, Sharon Villines wrote:
What about saving the time the message was sent in all the messages?It's already there. Just hover your mouse cursor over the displayed date/time at upper right. Bruce
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Re: Configurable date and time format options
Sharon Villines
What about saving the time the message was sent in all the messages? I’ve already had an instance of having to prove the times of of messages. That’s how I discovered that they were not saved past the day of the message. Sharon From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> Reply: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> Date: June 21, 2018 at 7:39:11 PM To: beta@groups.io <beta@groups.io> Subject: [beta] Configurable date and time format options
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Configurable date and time format options
Hi All, In your account, on the Preferences page, the Relative/Absolute time preference has been removed. In its place are two new preferences, for how dates and times are displayed. You can display times either in standard format, or in military (24 hour) time. And dates you can display either MM/DD/YYYY or DD-MM-YYYY. Dates formatted this way only shows up for dates that are older than this year. Otherwise, we continue to use 'Month Day' or, for something that happened on the current day, just the hour and minute (the complete date/time is available by hovering over the date). The calendar does respect the new date preferences. At some point I will also add these preferences to the default sub settings for groups, but this was already a big change, and I wanted to wait and let the dust settle before I do that. These changes touched every part of the website. I think I got all instances of dates and times, but there's a chance I missed some. Please let me know if you see any incorrectly formatted dates/times, and please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Event: Data center power loss #outage - Wednesday, 20 June 2018
#cal-invite
#outage
I found the web site not working this morning, too, and checked the useful status page to see what had happened. As a recent immigrant from Y! Groups! I continue to be pleasantly surprised by Groups.io. It's not that it never goes wrong, although it's far more reliable than Y!, but that the level of information available is far better. This seems the right moment to say Thank you to Mark Fletcher for his dedication and competence.
- Mark, Cambridgeshire, UK
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Re: Event: Data center power loss #outage - Wednesday, 20 June 2018
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On 21 Jun 2018 at 9:52, main@beta.groups.io Calendar wrote:
"Data center power loss #outage" EventThanks Mark. Yes we noticed this here in the UK - I realised a message I posted on a group hadn't gone through then since I needed to check bouncing status on one of our members found the website was off line. But it was up again soon after breakfast so most of our members weren't even aware. As you say, it is so rare that you probably don't need to address it. But I imagined you would be having a rather disturbed night's sleep over there in the States... 73 Dave G3YMC http://davesergeant.com
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Re: Event: Data center power loss #outage - Wednesday, 20 June 2018
#cal-invite
#outage
Thanks for the update Mark. Have you considered a resiliency product to replicate into the cloud so it auto fails over your systems .
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Re: Event: Data center power loss #outage - Wednesday, 20 June 2018
#cal-invite
#outage
Mark,
Thanks for the invite to this outage. Darn, I missed it! ;p Seriously: as long as no data was lost, I agree with the low priority. Thanks for the info! -- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Event: Data center power loss #outage - Wednesday, 20 June 2018
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main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
Data center power loss #outage When: Description: Summary On June 20 at approximately 9:30pm, Linode's Fremont datacenter lost Internet connectivity, effectively taking the site off-line. Connectivity was restored after midnight, and the site was brought back on-line around 12:39am on June 21. Linode says that a power outage was responsible, but that's all the information they've given. More than half of the machines in the Groups.io cluster were rebooted during this process. All machines came back up without issues. Action Items I was not paged when the site went down; I happened to notice it at about 10pm. The system I use to check whether the entire site is reachable failed to notify me in this instance. I need to fix that. Groups.io is hosted in only one datacenter. To avoid this type of downtime in the future, a multi-datacenter setup will be needed. I have a technical path to get there, but it greatly complicates the system. Given that this is only the second time in four years that the datacenter has gone down, moving to a multi-datacenter setup is low priority right now. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Testing separate message footers
Reading in plain text with Pegasus Mail no footers show in the actual message
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but they are in an attachment named "Plain text", where they would tend to be missed by anyone not looking for them there. It's what I'd expect if they're in a separate mime section. Jim Fisher
On 19 Jun 2018 at 18:07, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All, --
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Re: Feature Request - control over where previous message is pasted in
#suggestion
Thank you, Duane.
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Carol B.
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:04 pm, Duane wrote: This is on the TODO list, https://trello.com/c/04Jml9FD/188
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Re: Feature Request - control over where previous message is pasted in
#suggestion
This is on the TODO list, https://trello.com/c/04Jml9FD/188
There are several items there that have been implemented, so you'll need to look them over if it's something you'd like to see. Duane
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Feature Request - control over where previous message is pasted in
#suggestion
My groups have a convention of typing a new message above the previous message. I like the new ability to create an automatic signature, but it appears at the bottom of the text field. If I click the word bubble button to quote the previous message, it is pasted above my signature. I then have to cut my signature out and pasted it back in above the quote.
Would it be possible to change the feature so that the quote is added wherever the cursor is placed at the time we click the quote button? This would please everyone, because we'd have the choice of whether to put it above or below our new message, depending on the conventions of our groups. Thank you for your consideration.
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Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
See
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22405820#9379 I have just set up a group of some 300 and been hit by this 'feature' This is MORE than just a spam issue. People sign up to talk to others of similar interested. BUT they do not sign up to have everyone know their email address. Because of this and the EU GDPR regulations I have had to close the group I just set up (lasted a couple of days) For me to set up more groups larger than a handful of people this MUST be changed to send emails from only a groups.io email address
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Re: Testing separate message footers
Hi Mark, I’ve seen no real change here. The footer still looks the same. This is speaking in the voice overs perspective. Using Apple mail on an iPhone 7.
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On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Testing separate message footers
Through Outlook, the footer comes as an attachment. At least in my group, I have many folks who are afraid of attachments and won't open emails that include them....worried about viruses, etc. Janet
From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:07 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: [beta] Testing separate message footers
Hi All,
Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.
I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.
Thanks, Mark
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Re: Testing separate message footers
Sharon Villines
It is okay in Apple Mail set to text only.
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On Jun 20, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Testing separate message footers
Dale Smith
I see the same differences in Thunderbird compared to the footer in other groups, except "mute this topic" is available on the second line. Dale Smith
On 6/19/2018 10:59 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
The differences I’m seeing (using Gmail) are (1) a few options are missing in the beta footer that are there in the other footers (reply to group, reply to sender, mute this topic, new topic) and (2) the beta footer gives a text description for each option (lacking in the old version) followed by the URL, instead of just a named link as in the old footer. Otherwise it doesn’t visually appear to be any different in terms of being part of the message or not. ??? Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 19, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote: Hi All, Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups. I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using. Thanks, Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: Every message in topics or hashtags you are following is emailed to you. The first message of every new thread is also emailed to you. You automatically follow any topics you start or reply to. View/Reply Online (#17467): https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/17467 Follow This Topic: https://groups.io/ft/22445949/20540 Group Owner: main+owner@beta.groups.io Unsubscribe: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/leave/48838/164737045/xyzzy [j.olivia.catlady@...] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Re: Testing separate message footers
Sue
In Pegasus Mail no footers visible when viewed as either plain text orhtml. You can see the footer as a text attachment in the attachment pane Likewise in Outlook both on laptop and android phone. (Outlook not Outlook.com). Sue
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