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moderated Re: Database Options

Toby Kraft
 

Pamela,
First, check your permissions on the table.  In general, you probably don't want members to edit the structure of the table.

Then they won't have the Edit Table button at the top (unless they are moderators).

However, I agree that having the action buttons at the top and the data rows scrolling below would be an improvement.
Toby


moderated Database Options

Pamela Tatt
 

Would it be possible to change the options for Add Row to be moved to the top (beginning) of the Databases?

Many of our members are confused by the 'Edit Table' option thinking that is what they click on to add their record.

We have just transferred from Y!G and I have found out that the setting for Editing a Database being restricted to Owners/Moderators only has not transferred and is defaulted to 'Members'.  Suddenly all of the headings in the table are being changed due to members clicking Edit Table rather than Add Row.  They are older people and not always computer savvy so moving the Add Row button to the beginning of the table would be so much easier for them.

Thanks for your consideration,
Pamela


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

Pamela Tatt
 

Hi Mark,
while on the subject of photos is there any plans for an option to have an email/announcement sent to our group when new photos are added?

im a newbie so sorry if this has already been discussed
kind regards
pamela 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Michael Pavan
 

Yes, Group Owners should be able to control the default setting for their groups, and all options should be available for them to choose among.


I have no need/desire to restrict subscribers/members from communicating privately.

If such an option existed and is chosen as a blanket prohibition, it should be stated (by un-editable default) in the Group’s description (Home).

If done on a Topic by Topic basis, it should be stated in the Message Footer of those Topics (instead of the choice of reply links).

Perhaps all Messages should state what the default reply is.

Changes to the site this week:

• NEW: Topics can have a reply to setting that overrides the group's reply to (and any associated hash tags).
• NEW: Replaced the Reply To Sender Only checkbox on hashtags with a dropdown, allowing you to override the group's reply to setting.
• NEW: When a subscriber is viewing a member's profile, display the Email button to send them an email.


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

Toby Kraft
 

Mark,
It does now, it didn't then. For me anyway... :)
An alpha text search seems to work.  I have an album with files named "ThisParty01.jpg", "ThisParty02.jpg", etc.  Search for "0" returns no photos.
Also, a minor thing - when displaying the results, the breadcrumb link at the top says "Photo Search" and the link takes you back to the albums, but seems like the breadcrumbs should be:
<group> / Photo Albums / Photo Search

Thanks
Toby


moderated Re: Upload Progress Bar

 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 7:52 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I would also like to see this.  While doing some testing yesterday, I was uploading some really big files, 270-500 MB.  During the upload, all I saw was a box in my browser saying "Sending request to groupname".  Having a connection that's not the best in the world, I kept wondering if the files were actually being uploaded or if the connection was even good.  I eventually hovered on my Network Activity icon on my task bar and could see that they were doing something, albeit slowly.

At least with Chrome, I believe that a status is displayed at the bottom of the window showing how much has been uploaded so far. 

Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Ro,

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:07 AM Ro <recarlton@...> wrote:
This really annoys me.  I dont WANT my group settings over ridden!  Why, every time there is a change, do we have to fight and discuss endlessly for there to be a group setting to control this stuff, and allow those group owners who dont want it, to be able to shut it off.   Instead there is endless discussion and back an forth every single time.   Please install a control for owners,,, over ride group member sending emails from the profile or private.  

The reply-to overrides are only available to people who can otherwise edit a topic and/or edit the settings for a hashtag, ie. owners and moderators.

Mark 


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

Toby,

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 10:05 AM Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:
I'd like to point out that the partial word matching only works on "words" separated by spaces or non-alpha characters in the file name.  It does not do a search for a string of characters anywhere in the filename.  To me, this is less than ideal.  Say you have photos named "ThisPartyxxx", "ThatPartyxxx", "OtherPartyxxx".  A search for "Party" will not find anything.

I didn't respond to this earlier, but photo filename search does indeed match on strings of characters within the filename.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

Dave,
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:09 PM dave w via Groups.Io <nzntrains=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Good work, late to the party, but ahhh, how about extending the 'previous/ next' selector area to be full height of any said graphic being viewed? 
A la HIG/ GUI "Designing Web Usability: The Practice of Simplicity" ; to the effect of 'the active area should be larger than the graphic depicting direction (arrows)' to be 'natural' and easy to use.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Hashtag and Topic reply to overrides

 

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 6:57 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Mark -- I have two questions, both of which relate to how these overrides will interact with group emails.

1) Is there a way to override the reply-to setting for a topic during topic creation? If not, the footer links for those receiving Individual Emails will not comply with the override.

Right now the only way to override on topic creation is through the use of a hashtag.

 
2) Are subsequent email replies that don't comply with the override put on moderation, rejected, or ????  If something isn't done along those lines then it seems to me that the override isn't really accomplishing its objective.

If you think about it, the Reply To setting is really only a suggestion, except in the case of Reply Only To Sender, which isn't an option at the group level. If a topic is set to Reply Only To Sender, then we actively block messages back to the group.

Mark


moderated Re: #databases

Toby Kraft
 

Gerald, we should move this discussion somewhere else as Main is for feature requests, not support/howto discussion.
Sending you PM now.
Toby

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:30 PM Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
Toby,

Doesn't work - as in can't put anything in the field. How do you manage to enter text in the field?

I've tested with both Chrome and MS Edge. What browser are you using? Can you still make this work?

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Gerald


moderated Re: #databases

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Toby,

Doesn't work - as in can't put anything in the field. How do you manage to enter text in the field?

I've tested with both Chrome and MS Edge. What browser are you using? Can you still make this work?

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Gerald


moderated Re: Give group owners control over how subscriptions are processed #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Charles M. Register at 10/21/2018 09:05 PM UTC:

Suggestion: Give group owners control over how subscriptions are processed

Specific Suggestion: Add a group configuration option that controls the "Apply for Membership" button. This could have the following options:

1. Make the button work as it does now (default);
2. Make the button not show at all on the group's main page;
3. Make the button a "mailto" link directed to the groupname+subscribe address;
4. Make the button a link to an owner-supplied URL.

Yes!... Tho I'd prefer that subscriptions via web simply be handled the same as via email ones are... with sub requests not appearing or owners being notified until the email address is confirmed.

Jim H


moderated Re: #databases

Duane
 

FYI, https://groups.io/static/help,top of the page.

Duane


moderated Re: #databases

Toby Kraft
 

Please define "doesn't work" - works for me:


moderated Re: Give group owners control over how subscriptions are processed #suggestion

 

To complicate matters, I'll mention that in one of my groups, someone applied for membership via the web, and was actually sent the group's welcome message while still appearing in the members list as NC for a significant period of time afterwards. My understanding is that "NC" means that the member is not yet in the group in the sense of receiving group materials, having access to group content, etc., so I don't think the welcome message should have gone out before the confirmation. (I've already emailed Mark offlist at support about this, although the situation has since been resolved since the member eventually did confirm.)

In my main group, which is a premium, I no longer have to deal at all with NC issues, since approving a membership in a premium group automatically confirms it. So I have no real dog in this race (my other, non-premium group is smaller and not very active). But there have always seemed to me to be significant problems in the membership approval/confirmation sequence. I posted about this long ago, before premium groups were allowed to confirm their own members. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Starting separate thread on new "email" feature

 

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And that's generally an option on most forums with regard to private messaging,
Right. And some, as you know (even the god-awful Facebook!), provide even more granular controls (e.g., which types of individuals are allowed to PM you, etc.).
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: add mod choices "reply and lock topic" or "reply and moderate topic" #suggestion

 

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:43 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Which is what I said at the outset, and still think is the best idea.
And I totally agree with that.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: add mod choices "reply and lock topic" or "reply and moderate topic" #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 01:53 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Better yet either:
-allow Moderators to not be subject to the lock or moderation;
Which is what I said at the outset, and still think is the best idea.  Group Owners or Moderators should not be subject to any of the strictures that can be put on topics since they, themselves, are the ones putting them on.

I have, way more than once, locked a topic immediately prior to adding my reply.  I could see doing the same thing with putting a topic on moderated status and then posting my reply as a moderator/owner.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 
The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)


moderated Re: Starting separate thread on new "email" feature

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:15 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Would you also consider allowing individual members (in a group with directory viewable by subscribers) to opt out of the email feature, in case they prefer not to be contacted but don't want to make their profile invisible?
And that's generally an option on most forums with regard to private messaging, whether said private messaging comes via e-mail or an internal messaging system or, as is also often the case, both.  One forum on which I moderate sends e-mail messages indicating that a private message has been received, and with a copy of its contents, but all actual messaging occurs using the built-in messaging mechanism on the site.  That wouldn't make much sense here due to the Groups.io infrastructure.

All give the member the option as to whether or not they wish to be able to be privately messaged.  I'd think in this case all it would require is a "visibility switch" for the e-mail address/button where if the member elects to not receive private messages that just would not show for them.

I agree that this applies only to other regular group members.  Moderators and Owners must always be able to privately message anyone who's a member of a group.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 
The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

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