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moderated Re: Yahoo Group transfers

 

Mark,


It's that parenthetical that's the problem. When I first revamped the transfer system a couple of months ago, I did switch to a system that sent a -subscribe email. But it didn't work for a lot of groups, which is how I discovered that some are invite only (I previously had no idea that setting existed).

Understood. I was thinking that the invite-only groups would be a tiny minority. If they are more than that in reduces the leverage of having a second method.

It just seemed more straightforward and less prone to error to instruct people to send an invite than to ask them to go in and disable the invite only setting.

True. I wasn't thinking of asking that. I was thinking that if the subscribe fails you would fall back on needing the invite.

There are services that will solve captchas for you, but besides the icky feeling I'd having using one, I don't know how accurate they are.

I was thinking of suggesting the Mechanical Turk, but that costs money. I don't know the current status of the war between Yahoo Groups' CAPTCHA and the image recognition engines that had once defeated it. But yeah, I understand not wanting to deal with the icky web.

Shal


moderated @Mentions #suggestion

Vera Chan
 

Greetings,

In reference to https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8863 as well as https://groups.io/g/beta/message/11401?p=Created,,%40username,20,2,0,7039895, would love to restart the discussion on @mentions, as done in Slack and Facebook.


moderated Re: Yahoo Group transfers

 

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

If the CAPTCHA is a substantial bottleneck, perhaps (for Y!groups that are not invite-only) you could use the -subscribe email command, followed by the Membership Wizard to connect the subscription to the transfer agent account. Done manually that might not be any faster than the CAPTCHA, but it might be more readily automated.

It's that parenthetical that's the problem. When I first revamped the transfer system a couple of months ago, I did switch to a system that sent a -subscribe email. But it didn't work for a lot of groups, which is how I discovered that some are invite only (I previously had no idea that setting existed). It just seemed more straightforward and less prone to error to instruct people to send an invite than to ask them to go in and disable the invite only setting.

There are services that will solve captchas for you, but besides the icky feeling I'd having using one, I don't know how accurate they are.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Yahoo Group transfers

 

Mark,

Also, I am woefully behind on responding to Yahoo Group invites. For anyone that's waiting, I humbly beg patience.

If the CAPTCHA is a substantial bottleneck, perhaps (for Y!groups that are not invite-only) you could use the -subscribe email command, followed by the Membership Wizard to connect the subscription to the transfer agent account. Done manually that might not be any faster than the CAPTCHA, but it might be more readily automated.

Shal


moderated Re: Yahoo Group transfers

 

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:58 PM, William Finn <liam@...> wrote:

When does this go into effect?? 

There's been a note at the top of the Yahoo Transfers page for a bit more than a week now, and I just pushed the final changes to the site right now.

I stopped processing group invites when I decided to make this change. The 100k number was picked so that only a very small number of groups would be affected. Also it applies per Yahoo Group, not per Groups.io group. So, you could move multiple Yahoo Groups that have over 100k messages each into one Groups.io (or one Groups.io and several subgroups of that group), and you're only upgrading one Groups.io group.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Yahoo Group transfers

William Finn
 

Mark,

When does this go into effect?? 

Some have been waiting for two weeks before and still no acceptance of the transfer group invite.



On Tue, May 29, 2018, 9:55 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,

I've made a policy change with respect to Yahoo Group transfers. Now, for free Groups.io groups, we will transfer the most recent 100,000 messages from your Yahoo group. If you have more than 100k messages and would like the entire archive transferred, I ask that you pay for a year of the premium plan (you can downgrade after that to free).

Also, I am woefully behind on responding to Yahoo Group invites. For anyone that's waiting, I humbly beg patience.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Yahoo Group transfers

 

Hi All,

I've made a policy change with respect to Yahoo Group transfers. Now, for free Groups.io groups, we will transfer the most recent 100,000 messages from your Yahoo group. If you have more than 100k messages and would like the entire archive transferred, I ask that you pay for a year of the premium plan (you can downgrade after that to free).

Also, I am woefully behind on responding to Yahoo Group invites. For anyone that's waiting, I humbly beg patience.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: modifying subgroup properties

 

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Charles Reid <charlesreid1.dib@...> wrote:

I see there is a "Create A Subgroup" API endpoint that allows you to set several settings of a subgroup. There is also an "Update Groups" endpoint that allows you to change settings of a Group. But there is no "Update Subgroups" endpoint.

How can I modify properties of an existing subgroup? (Specifically, email_delivery settings, message_selection settings, max_attachment_size settings, etc.)

Just use the Update Group endpoint. It works for any group.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Hashtags case sensitive?

 

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Southenders Admin <nnnlriep6@...> wrote:
I believe they are case sensitive. It causes me problems in calendars, as event leaders of my group can post, and if they miss-case the hashtag, it creates a new one. I then create an alias until the event passes.


Hashtags are not case sensitive. That is, they will match an existing hashtag, regardless of case. If you're seeing otherwise, then please report it to support.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Hashtags case sensitive?

Tom Vail
 

I can not see why they would be case sensitive.

I agree a drop down would be most helpful.

So, maybe this is a Beta question/problem.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Hashtags case sensitive?

Southenders Admin
 

I believe they are case sensitive. It causes me problems in calendars, as event leaders of my group can post, and if they miss-case the hashtag, it creates a new one. I then create an alias until the event passes.

I have requested that we have a drop down hashtag menu for the calendar.


moderated Re: when member deletes a message, save content in the log #suggestion

 

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 08:14 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
for allowing users to delete their members
oops, "for allowing users to delete their messages"
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated when member deletes a message, save content in the log #suggestion

 

It's been acknowledged that there is no legal requirement (either currently, or with GDRP) to allow members to delete their messages, since they have granted permanent rights to groups.io to publish them. That said, I have no issue with members deleting messages as long as I as the group owner can find out after the fact WHAT they deleted. Currently, when a member deletes a message the log entry simply says that they deleted message # xyz and the title. So it's impossible to find out what they actually deleted. I would like the log entry to contain the text of the message as well. This would not seem to violate any general principles people have espoused here for allowing users to delete their members. It's simply a record of what was deleted.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Hashtags case sensitive?

 

No. Not a question for beta.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Hashtags case sensitive?

Tom Vail
 

Are Hashtags case sensitive?

Tom


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Arno Martens
 

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 08:47 am, Marv Waschke wrote:

An old trick is to copy and paste from complexly formatted documents into a
text editor like notepad
No trick for me as my eMail client can only post in plain text. It has a rendering engine built in to display HTML reasonably accurate.
Arno


moderated Re: Improvements to the Rejected Message UI and message #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

I agree.  If we, the moderators, are doing the rejection we should have full control of the message.  It could be for a number of reasons, ie a full-out rejection as in go away, or a "soft" rejection as in fix this and you will be good to go.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: calendar features

Tom Vail
 

Agreed, as it would not be something we would want to do the way we will use groups.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Walter Underwood
 

On a Mac, “Paste and Match Style" is the easily remembered Shift-Option-Flower-V command. :-)

To be serious, I haven’t laundered text through a text editor in a decade or so.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

On May 27, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Yep I do that all the time. In fact my professors still recommend  that at the university  where I went to school a few years ago.

On May 27, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Marv Waschke <marv@...> wrote:

An old trick is to copy and paste from complexly formatted documents into a text editor like notepad or Emacs, then recopy and paste from the text editor to strip out formatting.



moderated Re: calendar features

Duane
 

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 01:39 pm, Charles Reid wrote:
* A single calendar feed that aggregates all subgroup events, so that users can subscribe to all subgroup calendars by subscribing to a single calendar
If considered, it should be optional with a default of disabled; or limited to only the subgroups that user is subscribed to.  Many groups with subgroups use them for specific members, not everyone in the main group.

Duane

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