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moderated Re: Investigating erroneous "Message too big!" errors

Leeni
 

Thanks.
Although it didn't effect me it is so refreshing to see how attentive you are in solving these issues to better the groups. I am really enjoying my time here with my groups in groups IO. Ilene 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 11/27/2018 11:05:06 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Investigating erroneous "Message too big!" errors
 
Hi All,

The problem's been fixed. It was a bug triggered by some (what I thought was innocuous) debugging code I added elsewhere in the system. Ooof.

Summary of this event: some people initially got the Message too big error when sending messages. After I fixed that, the issue was just delayed email delivery for some small set of messages.

Thanks,
Mark

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:59 PM Drew <pubx1@...> wrote:
I experienced this a few hours ago sending a message to my group at Tue,
27 Nov 2018 18:44:40 -0800:

ResponseCode 421 "timed out".

But nothing about "message too big".

The message finally appeared in the group at 22:44.


Drew



On 11/27/18 20:11, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm seeing high numbers of internal network timeouts that are leading to
> erroneous 'Message too big!' bounce messages being sent back to people when
> they email their groups. I've increased some timeouts and am continuing to
> investigate.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
>
>




 


moderated Re: Investigating erroneous "Message too big!" errors

 

Hi All,

The problem's been fixed. It was a bug triggered by some (what I thought was innocuous) debugging code I added elsewhere in the system. Ooof.

Summary of this event: some people initially got the Message too big error when sending messages. After I fixed that, the issue was just delayed email delivery for some small set of messages.

Thanks,
Mark

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:59 PM Drew <pubx1@...> wrote:
I experienced this a few hours ago sending a message to my group at Tue,
27 Nov 2018 18:44:40 -0800:

ResponseCode 421 "timed out".

But nothing about "message too big".

The message finally appeared in the group at 22:44.


Drew



On 11/27/18 20:11, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm seeing high numbers of internal network timeouts that are leading to
> erroneous 'Message too big!' bounce messages being sent back to people when
> they email their groups. I've increased some timeouts and am continuing to
> investigate.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
>
>





moderated Re: Investigating erroneous "Message too big!" errors

Drew
 

I experienced this a few hours ago sending a message to my group at Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:44:40 -0800:

ResponseCode 421 "timed out".

But nothing about "message too big".

The message finally appeared in the group at 22:44.


Drew

On 11/27/18 20:11, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,
I'm seeing high numbers of internal network timeouts that are leading to
erroneous 'Message too big!' bounce messages being sent back to people when
they email their groups. I've increased some timeouts and am continuing to
investigate.
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Investigating erroneous "Message too big!" errors

 

Hi All,

I'm seeing high numbers of internal network timeouts that are leading to erroneous 'Message too big!' bounce messages being sent back to people when they email their groups. I've increased some timeouts and am continuing to investigate.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Writing from a group homepage #suggestion

Frances
 

Thanks.

There are times when moderators are busy with their lives and can’t deal right away with approving messages right away. I know - I am a moderator too for a travel group!

However, yes, I do see the banner.

Moderators, of course, do have a flag showing that there is something waiting for them.

Frances


moderated Re: Writing from a group homepage #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 07:25 PM, Frances wrote:
It would be nice if there were something showing that a message has been sent by me but is waiting for moderation.
When I send to a Moderated Group from the web UI I get a banner at the top of the page that my message has been sent and that it is awaiting moderation, or words to that effect.

Chris


moderated Gmail.com From re-writing

 

Hi All,

A couple of weeks ago, Gmail made a change that caused a banner to be displayed above some Groups.io emails, saying the messages may be spoofed. The banner appears for the person who sent the message to the group.

As at least a short term fix, for the messages that we send back to the original sender, I am now re-writing the From address of messages sent by gmail.com users. So, if example@... sends a message to beta, the email that example@... gets back from us will have a From address of example=gmail.com@groups.io. The message we send to the other members of beta will not be affected and will have the original From line.

There's potentially a better fix for this issue that doesn't involve From re-writing, but it requires supporting a new email standard, which will take me some time to implement.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Calendar - Date Format on Reminder Notices

Pamela Tatt
 

Thank you Mark!  
You are a champion!!


moderated Writing from a group homepage #suggestion

Frances
 

When I write a message from a group homepage to a moderated group, I have no indication that I actually did it. Not until the message is approved by a moderator, or rejected. Once or twice, I have clicked on discard instead of send! 

It would be nice if there were something showing that a message has been sent by me but is waiting for moderation. Of course, I can write from my email and then there is the Sent mail.

So just a nice to have!

Frances

PS I love that drafts are automatically saved!


moderated Re: Suggestion for "yahootransfer page". #suggestion

AL Guevara <al@...>
 

 from your Yahoo Group, is underlined i suggestion.


moderated Re: Suggestion for "yahootransfer page". #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 02:46 PM, Laurence Taylor wrote:
I can't see any difference ..
There is one, but it's subtle. The suggested change is to underline four words thus: from your Yahoo Group.

The section you quoted did not show any underlining; perhaps you did not receive that emphasis for some reason.

Chris


moderated Re: Suggestion for "yahootransfer page". #suggestion

Laurence Taylor
 

AL Guevara <al@tucsoncomputerdude.com> wrote:

OLD> Step 2

Send an invite from your Yahoo Group to transfer@groups.io ( https://transfer@groups.io/ )

NEW> Step 2

Send an invite from your Yahoo Group to transfer@groups.io ( https://transfer@groups.io/ )
I can't see any difference ...

(The erroneous web link seems to have been generated by your email
client - presumably not Groups.io).

--
rgds
LAurence
<><


moderated Re: Calendar - Date Format on Reminder Notices

Michael Morris
 

Thanks, you sir are a hero. :-)


moderated Re: Email alias setup suggestion

Bill Burns <ftldny@...>
 

On 11/26/2018 4:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 4:30 PM Bill Burns <ftldny@gmail.com <mailto:ftldny@gmail.com>> wrote:
The alias section should stay open and either confirm a successful add
or show the error message.
I've changed it so that the section stays open on error now. When an alias is successfully added, we already displayed a message.
Thanks,
Mark
Thanks, Mark; confirmed that this is working for me.

--
Bill


moderated Re: Make the In Process drop-down look different when not empty

Mark Fletcher
 

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 1:56 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Thanks Mark!

Nit: Step 4

After you have made the transfer@groups.io member a moderator, return here, select your Existing transfer, ...


Fixed!

Mark 


moderated Re: Make the In Process drop-down look different when not empty

 

Thanks Mark!

Nit: Step 4

After you have made the transfer@groups.io member a moderator, return here, select your Existing transfer, ...

Shal

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 1:21 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi Shal,

I changed 'In Process' to 'Existing Transfers' and added your suggested help text under it.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Make the In Process drop-down look different when not empty

 

Hi Shal,

I changed 'In Process' to 'Existing Transfers' and added your suggested help text under it.

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 1:54 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mark,

On the Yahoo Group Easy transfer instructions page, the In Process drop-list control looks the same whether the list is empty or not:



This is a minor issue when trying to assist people with transfers, as they send us a screen-shot but we can't tell if they clicked the list and there was nothing there, or if in fact there's at least one group in the list but they've failed or been unable to open the control.

So it would be helpful if the control, or some text nearby, could indicate whether or not there are any groups in the list.

Now that I think of it, text under (or near) the control that says either "You have no transfers in process" or "You have n transfers in process or completed" would be ideal.

Shal


moderated Re: Update login expiration on site visit #suggestion

 

Everything Jim said is correct. 

A visit/request is defined as any browser request to the Groups.io website

Thanks,
Mark


On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:11 AM Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@...> wrote:
Received from Bruce Bowman at 11/22/2018 01:21 PM UTC:

>On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 09:21 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
>>Received from Bruce Bowman at 11/21/2018 11:35 PM UTC:
>>>On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 01:12 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
>>>>The login cookie is refreshed with every request...
>>>
>>>I remain a little unclear as to what constitutes a "request" in this context.
>>
>>It might be better explained as "refreshed with every VISIT to Groups.io"
>>(Understanding that "refreshed" requires the cookie to exist and not be
>>expired in order for it to be "refreshed"... otherwise you need to log in
>>to recreate (not refresh) the log-in cookie.)
>
>Seems that all we've done here is replace "request" with "visit."

Well.. yes... but you said you didn't understand what "request" meant...
while I bet you DO understand what "visit" means. Right?

By way of some detail... browsers don't "request" cookies from websites...
websites offer cookies to browsers and attempt to read cookies from
browsers... and the browsers only allow cookies to be read by the same entity
that created the cookie.

>The question remains:  what exactly causes the 30-day cookie clock to be
>restarted?

If the 30-day cookie exists, it's restarted by any visit to Groups.io. If the
30-day cookie has expired, then it's restarted (actually recreated) by
logging in.

>>>And I assume that if the subscriber *does* log in at that point (or any
>>>subsequent point in time), a new non-expiring cookie is created. Am I right?
>>
>>That's the intent.
>
>But is it what actually happens?

Yes.

Jim H





moderated Re: Calendar - Date Format on Reminder Notices

 

Hi All,

I've changed the reminders emails to use the group's default date and time formats.

Thanks,
Mark

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:17 AM Michael Morris <michaelmorris4@...> wrote:
Our members are finding the use of US date format in the reminders confusing.  Please can we have option to have the reminders in the groups default date format?


moderated Re: Email alias setup suggestion

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 4:30 PM Bill Burns <ftldny@...> wrote:

The alias section should stay open and either confirm a successful add
or show the error message.

I've changed it so that the section stays open on error now. When an alias is successfully added, we already displayed a message.

Thanks,
Mark 

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