Date   

moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Reading in plain text with Pegasus Mail no footers show in the actual message
but they are in an attachment named "Plain text", where they would tend to be
missed by anyone not looking for them there. It's what I'd expect if they're in
a separate mime section.

Jim Fisher

On 19 Jun 2018 at 18:07, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message
footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the
message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing,
which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular
email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you
notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
--
http://jimellame.tumblr.com - My thoughts on freedom (needs updating)
http://jimella.wordpress.com - political snippets, especially economic policy
http://jimella.livejournal.com - misc. snippets, some political, some not
Forget Google! I search with https://duckduckgo.com which doesn't spy on you


moderated Re: Feature Request - control over where previous message is pasted in #suggestion

Carol B.
 

Thank you, Duane.

Carol B.


On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:04 pm, Duane wrote:
This is on the TODO list, https://trello.com/c/04Jml9FD/188

There are several items there that have been implemented, so you'll need to look them over if it's something you'd like to see.

Duane


moderated Re: Feature Request - control over where previous message is pasted in #suggestion

Duane
 

This is on the TODO list, https://trello.com/c/04Jml9FD/188

There are several items there that have been implemented, so you'll need to look them over if it's something you'd like to see.

Duane


moderated Feature Request - control over where previous message is pasted in #suggestion

Carol B.
 

My groups have a convention of typing a new message above the previous message.  I like the new ability to create an automatic signature, but it appears at the bottom of the text field.  If I click the word bubble button to quote the previous message, it is pasted above my signature.  I then have to cut my signature out and pasted it back in above the quote.

Would it be possible to change the feature so that the quote is added wherever the cursor is placed at the time we click the quote button?  This would please everyone, because we'd have the choice of whether to put it above or below our new message, depending on the conventions of our groups.

Thank you for your consideration.


moderated Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages

Chris V
 

See
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22405820#9379


I have just set up a group of some 300 and been hit by this 'feature'
This is MORE than just a spam issue. People sign up to talk to others of similar interested.
BUT they do not sign up to have everyone know their email address.

Because of this and the EU GDPR regulations I have had to close the group I just set up (lasted a couple of days)

For me to set up more groups larger than a handful of people this MUST be changed to send emails from only a groups.io email address


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 
Edited

Hi Mark, I’ve seen no real change here. The footer still looks the same. This is speaking in the voice overs perspective. Using Apple mail on an iPhone 7.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,
 
Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.
 
I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.
 
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Through Outlook, the footer comes as an attachment.  At least in my group, I have many folks who are afraid of attachments and won't open emails that include them....worried about viruses, etc.  Janet

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:07 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Testing separate message footers

 

Hi All,

 

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

 

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Sharon Villines
 

It is okay in Apple Mail set to text only.

On Jun 20, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online (#17467): https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/17467
Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/22445949/152154
Group Owner: main+owner@beta.groups.io
Unsubscribe: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/leave/1771685/2126391125/xyzzy [sharon@sharonvillines.com]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Dale Smith
 

I see the same differences in Thunderbird compared to the footer in other groups, except "mute this topic" is available on the second line.

Dale Smith



On 6/19/2018 10:59 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
The differences I’m seeing (using Gmail) are (1) a few options are missing in the beta footer that are there in the other footers (reply to group, reply to sender, mute this topic, new topic) and (2) the beta footer gives a text description for each option (lacking in the old version) followed by the URL, instead of just a named link as in the old footer. Otherwise it doesn’t visually appear to be any different in terms of being part of the message or not. ???

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: Every message in topics or hashtags you are following is emailed to you.
The first message of every new thread is also emailed to you.
You automatically follow any topics you start or reply to.

View/Reply Online (#17467): https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/17467
Follow This Topic: https://groups.io/ft/22445949/20540
Group Owner: main+owner@beta.groups.io
Unsubscribe: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/leave/48838/164737045/xyzzy  [j.olivia.catlady@...]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-



-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online (#17474): https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/17474
Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/22445949/603509
Group Owner: main+owner@beta.groups.io
Unsubscribe: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/leave/2725511/1960790862/xyzzy  [dalefsmith@...]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Sue
 

In Pegasus Mail no footers visible when viewed as either plain text or
html. You can see the footer as a text attachment in the attachment pane

Likewise in Outlook both on laptop and android phone. (Outlook not
Outlook.com).

Sue


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Mark,

Just noticed, I'm seeing the plain text footer regardless of whether the message is multipart or plain only.

I think that explains J's observations.

I don't know what would happen if you put separate "mixed" MIME parts inside the two "alternative" parts - could that restore having distinct footer formats?

Shal


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

The differences I’m seeing (using Gmail) are (1) a few options are missing in the beta footer that are there in the other footers (reply to group, reply to sender, mute this topic, new topic) and (2) the beta footer gives a text description for each option (lacking in the old version) followed by the URL, instead of just a named link as in the old footer. Otherwise it doesn’t visually appear to be any different in terms of being part of the message or not. ???

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: Every message in topics or hashtags you are following is emailed to you.
The first message of every new thread is also emailed to you.
You automatically follow any topics you start or reply to.

View/Reply Online (#17467): https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/17467
Follow This Topic: https://groups.io/ft/22445949/20540
Group Owner: main+owner@beta.groups.io
Unsubscribe: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/leave/48838/164737045/xyzzy [j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Dave Sergeant
 

In Pegasus Mail no footers visible when viewed as either plain text or
html. You can see the footer as a text attachment in the attachment
pane - which is of no use for most.

Dave

On 19 Jun 2018 at 18:07, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message
footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the
message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing,
which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular
email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if
you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're
using.

Thanks,
Mark

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Mark,

​Looks fine in Gmail web interface, and in Thunderbird via IMAP from Gmail.

​Also in Gmail app on Android.

Except in some messages it is partially hidden -- starting with "Mute This Topic" the lines are hidden under a "Show quoted text" link. Weird that it is partial, but I've found that feature to be generally inscrutable (often as not subsuming whole message bodies). Oh, it seems to be all replies, but not your original post.

Shal


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Mark,

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

​Looks fine in Gmail web interface, and in Thunderbird via IMAP from Gmail.
​Shal


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Walter Underwood
 

I see the footer in Apple Mail.app.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online (#17467): https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/17467
Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/22445949/219835
Group Owner: main+owner@beta.groups.io
Unsubscribe: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/leave/1113764/1503638431/xyzzy  [wunder@...]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Hi Mark,

No footer in becky mail. I read mail in plain text.

Regards, Marten

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:07:07 -1000 "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message
footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the
message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing,
which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular
email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you
notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Hi,

No footer on outlook 365 at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:07 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Testing separate message footers

 

Hi All,

 

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

 

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Testing separate message footers

 

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #suggestion

Duane
 

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:42 pm, JMichaelTX wrote:
Is there any hope that this feature will be added soon?
Since this doesn't seem to be something that would be important to a lot of groups, I suspect it would have a low priority.  There are a couple of things on the TODO list that are important to me, but I realize they have a limited a audience.  One of them has been there for going on 4 years.  I know that list was last updated over 6 months ago, but I just wait for the announcements when something is added or changed.  I'd rather Mark spend the time doing something that will improve the site than spend it keeping records!

Duane

10581 - 10600 of 27893