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moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Dave Sergeant
 

In Pegasus Mail no footers visible when viewed as either plain text or
html. You can see the footer as a text attachment in the attachment
pane - which is of no use for most.

Dave

On 19 Jun 2018 at 18:07, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message
footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the
message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing,
which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular
email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if
you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're
using.

Thanks,
Mark

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Mark,

​Looks fine in Gmail web interface, and in Thunderbird via IMAP from Gmail.

​Also in Gmail app on Android.

Except in some messages it is partially hidden -- starting with "Mute This Topic" the lines are hidden under a "Show quoted text" link. Weird that it is partial, but I've found that feature to be generally inscrutable (often as not subsuming whole message bodies). Oh, it seems to be all replies, but not your original post.

Shal


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Mark,

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

​Looks fine in Gmail web interface, and in Thunderbird via IMAP from Gmail.
​Shal


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Walter Underwood
 

I see the footer in Apple Mail.app.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
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moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Hi Mark,

No footer in becky mail. I read mail in plain text.

Regards, Marten

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:07:07 -1000 "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message
footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the
message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing,
which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular
email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you
notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Testing separate message footers

 

Hi,

No footer on outlook 365 at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:07 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Testing separate message footers

 

Hi All,

 

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

 

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Testing separate message footers

 

Hi All,

Last week I added a new feature that, when enabled, puts the message footers into a separate mime chunk, instead of appending them to the message. This was done because the other way breaks PGP message signing, which is important for some Enterprise groups.

I'm curious as to how well this type of message is supported by popular email clients, so I have turned it on for beta@. Please let me know if you notice a difference with the footers, and which email client you're using.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #suggestion

Duane
 

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:42 pm, JMichaelTX wrote:
Is there any hope that this feature will be added soon?
Since this doesn't seem to be something that would be important to a lot of groups, I suspect it would have a low priority.  There are a couple of things on the TODO list that are important to me, but I realize they have a limited a audience.  One of them has been there for going on 4 years.  I know that list was last updated over 6 months ago, but I just wait for the announcements when something is added or changed.  I'd rather Mark spend the time doing something that will improve the site than spend it keeping records!

Duane


moderated Re: Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar #suggestion

 

@Mark, it has been nearly one year since this request was made. Is there any hope that this feature will be added soon? I really need to know to help guide the members in my community. If it is not provided soon, then we will have to look elsewhere for a forum that supports code syntax highlighting.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 02:31 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:43 PM, JMichaelTX < JMichael@... > wrote:

Please add a tool/button to insert a Code Block with syntax highlighting to the Toolbar in HTML Mode. This feature exists when in Markdown Mode, but not when in HTML Mode.

It's on the TODO list: https://trello.com/c/bB7VXUGv/281-create-custom-codesample-plugin-for-tinymce


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

 

Drew,

I was thinking of simply going to #Hashtags in the index and being able to select ones to mute/unmute.

​I agree with that, but I see it as separate from the question of whether to filter the Messages and Topics lists according to those selections.
The important thing is that online users should have the same functionality as email users.

​Currently one only has that functionality in the Topics and Hashtags lists available on the Groups.io home page (click the logo in the upper left). But those lists includes topics from all of your group subscriptions. And because there the Topic mute/follows are separated from the Hashtag mute/follows none of those exactly mirrors what you email inbox would have.

Shal


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

Drew
 

Shal,

I was thinking of simply going to #Hashtags in the index and being able to select ones to mute/unmute. But any way it is implemented would be fine with me. The important thing is that online users should have the same functionality as email users.

Drew

On 06/18/18 12:58, Shal Farley wrote:
Drew,
If there is going to be an online option to mute/unmute hashtags these
settings should also apply to the online message display.
​I've suggested <https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/16241>; that this
functionality be included in the message list filter (funnel icon). That
way the user can control it easily. The filter panel currently has only a
Date selector, but checkboxes to exclude muted or unfollowed
threads/hashtags seems like a natural fit to me.
​Shal


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

Drew
 

The ability to mute hashtagged messages in the online display makes functional sense as well as logical sense.

Just to be clear I wasn't referring to Topic muting, but Hashtag muting only. I realize that in some groups, where all subscribers are permitted to create hashtags at will, there is probably little distinction between the two.

But our group uses hashtags for specific categories of messages administered by the owners. It would be very useful for our subscribers to be able to filter messages in the online display based upon these fixed hashtag categories. Currently, they can only select to view specific hashtag categories of messages; there is no way to hide a hashtag category as email subscribers are able to do. Having the ability to do so would make online browsing of messages much more convenient, in the same way it does for email subscribers.

If someone doesn't want to plow through specific categories of messages in their emails there's no reason they should have to do so in the online listing.

Drew

On 06/18/18 12:21, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 04:28 am, Drew wrote:


If there is going to be an online option to mute/unmute hashtags these
settings should also apply to the online message display.
While this makes a great deal of logical sense, it would be very difficult to implement. Personally, l like the ability to see threads I've muted online. Being forced to unmute a topic just to see if I *really* want to unmute it strikes me as counterproductive.
Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

 

Drew,

If there is going to be an online option to mute/unmute hashtags these settings should also apply to the online message display.

​I've suggested that this functionality be included in the message list filter (funnel icon). That way the user can control it easily. The filter panel currently has only a Date selector, but checkboxes to exclude muted or unfollowed threads/hashtags seems like a natural fit to me.

​Shal


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 04:28 am, Drew wrote:
If there is going to be an online option to mute/unmute hashtags these settings should also apply to the online message display.
While this makes a great deal of logical sense, it would be very difficult to implement. Personally, l like the ability to see threads I've muted online. Being forced to unmute a topic just to see if I *really* want to unmute it strikes me as counterproductive.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

Drew
 

If there is going to be an online option to mute/unmute hashtags these settings should also apply to the online message display. That is, if you choose to mute a hashtag you should not be served the muted messages either in your email or while browsing the Messages listing on the group page.

Drew

On 06/17/18 17:13, Dan Hartford wrote:
Hi,
I think it would be quite helpful to use the Hashtags page to allow group members to mute or un-mute various hashtags.  Each hashtag box should have a button at the bottom to "mute this hashtag" or "Un-Mute this hashtag" (depending on its current state for the user).  This would achieve several things.  1) easy to see which hashtags you have muted (maybe even including the remaining duration of the mute),  2)  easy for a new member to scan through the list of hashtags and mute those that are of no interest to them, and 3) allow a central place on the web interface to add/remove hashtag muting.
Thanks -- Dan


moderated Re: Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

 

Dan,

I think it would be quite helpful to use the Hashtags page to allow
group members to mute or un-mute various hashtags.
Agreed. Same for Follow / Unfollow.

In fact I think this could be two checkboxes, one for Mute and the other for Follow.

Yes, I know that only one applies, depending on the Message Selection setting in your Subscription, but I'd make both visible at all times so that you can view and adjust them without having to first go change your subscription.

Shal


moderated Re: Feature Request - More reply options #suggestion

 

Dan,

Request #1 -- in the web interface, when replying to a message when
the group is set to sender and Group, have "reply to" buttons for
Group, Sender, and Group & Sender
After you click Reply there's a "Private" button below and to the right of the composition window. This will change the green Reply to Group & Sender button to a blue Reply to Sender button. There is not an option for reply to Group (only) though.

Request #3 - Not sure how Yahoo groups does this, but when replying
to message via email, when you use the "reply" button of your email
client it puts only the sender in the "Send to:" box, but when you
click "Reply All" it puts both the sender and the group in the "send
to:" box. It would be good for IO to do the same.
That's not what happens with any of my Y!Groups. It must depend on the group's settings and/or your email interface. Not all email services interpret the Reply and Reply All functions in the same way.

Shal


moderated More info in hastag color picker #suggestion

Dan Hartford
 

when in the edit (or create) hashtag screen, and you go to pick a color for the tag you are presented with a row of color blocks to pick from.  The current color for the tag conveniently has a check mark in it but there is no clue as to which of the other colors are already in use.  It would be quite helpful if the other color blocks had a black border around them if that color is already in use by another tag in the group.

thanks -- Dan


moderated Better control of muted hashtags #suggestion

Dan Hartford
 

Hi,

I think it would be quite helpful to use the Hashtags page to allow group members to mute or un-mute various hashtags.  Each hashtag box should have a button at the bottom to "mute this hashtag" or "Un-Mute this hashtag" (depending on its current state for the user).  This would achieve several things.  1) easy to see which hashtags you have muted (maybe even including the remaining duration of the mute),  2)  easy for a new member to scan through the list of hashtags and mute those that are of no interest to them, and 3) allow a central place on the web interface to add/remove hashtag muting.

Thanks -- Dan


moderated Re: Warn if leaving a page with unsent changes

Toby Kraft
 

Dan, the system automatically creates a draft when composing / replying - check the Drafts selection on the left menu. Saved my butt many times.. :)

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