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I have mixed feelings on this. Will it be possible to disable the virus
scanning on individual groups. Yahoogroups had virus scanning (probably a far inferior system to what you are proposing) and we always disabled it. Apart from the odd occasion when members had their Yahoo emails hacked we never had any issues with viruses getting through. But my groups are private groups with membership needing to be approved. Maybe different for public groups. Likewise with my email, I have disabled the server side filtering and do it all myself with Mailwasher. Dave On 20 Aug 2018 at 20:24, Mark Fletcher wrote: My default implementation would be to turn it on so that it blocks all http://davesergeant.com
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Re: Virus scanning
best Nick ___
dUNMUR | member of the AOP
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the only question I have is will group owners know what emails are rejected? Otherwise sounds good to me Chris
On 21/08/2018 04:24, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,
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Re: Virus scanning
Hi Mark,
if the sender is notIf the sender is a subscriber then please moderate the message instead of dropping it. False positives are possible. -- Lena
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Virus scanning
Hi All, I've been testing virus/phishing scanning the last few weeks and I'm pretty confident that it's catching what it should. In testing, it's scanning all emails, all uploaded files and photos. And right now, if the sender is not a subscriber, it drops any emails it finds has a virus or phishing attack. My default implementation would be to turn it on so that it blocks all emails, files and photos that it finds has a virus or phishing attempt. Do you see any reason to not do it this way? The scanner I'm using is here: http://www.clamav.net/ Thanks, Mark
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Re: override user posts
I was looking for command in this group and not finding it. But there it is in groups I moderate.
Thanks Shal. Next time I have a problem I go the moderators group, which I didn't know about before. Steve L
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Log direct-add message just as invite message is logged
#suggestion
Invites are logged as "invited xyz with message pqr." Yet direct-adds are just logged as "invited xyz," without logging the message sent.
It would be helpful to log the message in that case as well. -- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
Bob Bellizzi
That is, if Markhad no other system changes, corrections, requests to implement first?
-- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
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Re: override user posts
Steve,
... cant find Settings -> etc.It is in the Admin pages, on the left below Subscription and above Messages. If you don't see the Admin pages then you do not moderate the group (or do not have the needed permission); in which case sorry - that's a group setting and you can't change it. So I guess in that case what you're asking for is the equivalent function, but as a Subscription setting for each individual member. Shal
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
OTOH I guess you could keep counting the (non-operational) tags even when hashtags are disabled, and do everything else you'd normally do to them, just in case they're enabled again. It seems like more trouble than it's worth IMO.
-- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: override user posts
not enough Sunday morning coffee in my system, cant find Settings -> etc.
Steve
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
So do you want any messages created between the time that hashtags are disabled and then re-enabled to be counted in the stats (etc.)for the hashtag(s) that had been temporarily disabled?
You have, say, 48 topics with #tagX. You disable hashtags, time goes by, and 50 more messages are created with #tagX and the tags are treated as plain text. Then you enable hashtags again. Does the count for #tagX still show as 48, or do you want all of those 50 topics to be added to it? If so, it's a PITA for the system. If not, then the hashtag count is incorrect. I think there are other issues but that's the first one that comes to mind. -- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
As I said in my suggestions, "When selected, "#anything" would be treated as plain text." So if hashtags already exist in your group and hashtags are disabled, they just become plain text. They are not removed, not invisible, they are just text. If hashtags are enabled again, then they are processed as hashtags.
I know this is a very simplistic view, but conceptionally processing the subject line would work like this: Are hashtags disabled? No - proceed with current processing (no change) Yes - go X, where X bypasses the hashtag processing routine The same would happen when displaying the sidebar. If disabled, no Hashtag tab is displayed. So the hashtag page does not "go away" but is just not displayed. If enabled, they would again display. New hashtags would be processed according to the group settings. Hope that makes it clearer. Peace, Tom
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Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam
Bob Bellizzi
Chris,
Thanks, & yes I track those things but also keep all emails including removed, Unsubscribed, rejoined joined, etc. We even send an inquiry email to each one who unsubscribes for any reason asking them to tell us something about why they did so. In about 95% of unsubscribes, we never receive a response to that. Many of the responders say something intelligent like, "I set for individual emails and I've received too many" If they are lurkers, we don't encourage rejoining but if they are contributors or actively seeking help we try to reach out and re-direct invite them. I and my other owners/moderators/mentors have been operating this group for almost 20 years, long before Yahoo swallowed either e groups or ecircles, whichever came last. I wasn't complaining. I was just indicating that there has been a drastic reduction in the number of spam tagged messages and members recently. Sometimes drastic changes indicate success & at other times, they might be flags indication something went wrong. -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
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Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam
Chris Jones
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
I've had 19 unsubscribes since July 18, 2018 and I haven't seen one of these since that date, making 20..Bob; going right back to when you started this thread, but following your most recent post a couple of questions spring to mind.
Chris
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Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam
Bob,
But we average about 50-60 newbies each month and quite a few unsubbedThat doesn't preclude the last of the candidates. Or maybe Groups.io is getting to be "too big to block" [nods at Lena] for some services. It seems that the services most often doing this are Hotmail,We've been making a list, though I can't say we've been checking it twice ;-) https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam#Service-Providers Shal
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
Shal, I agree with your suggestion. I also think it would be good to add a little more explanation that the action groups.io is taking is based on internet standards that mail service providers are implementing to control spam. (as opposed to some arbitrary thing that groups.io is doing).
Also, when I resize the window smaller than full screen and scroll down to the bottom of the help page, the nav links panel on the left does not scroll so the bottom links are not visible and the highlight that syncs from the right panel is gone. The bottom link I see is the "Receiving duplicate messages" one. Thanks Toby
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Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam
Bob Bellizzi
Thanks Shal,
But we average about 50-60 newbies each month and quite a few unsubbed for spam were usually in that group. It seems that the services most often doing this are Hotmail, RoadRunner, Yahoo, Yahoo based services (all att domains, Verizon) -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
Mark,
* NEW: Added a section to the Help about the FBL and people beingIn the last sentence I would change "And they know" to "The email also lets them know". I'd also shorten the link text in the left column to "Removed because of Spam". It is the longest text, and overlaps the main text if the window is too narrow. Shal
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Re: Going to groups directly from browser's address bar
Thanks for that clarification. I think this is a huge boon!
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On Aug 18, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:
-- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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