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moderated Re: Help to locate Members in the Directory and to enable easy Photo album 'owner' editing

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 06:32 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
If someone owns an album and later leaves the group, that album is left without an owner.
Interesting... so the migration from Yahoo is (in this case) not relevant. I wonder if the behaviour when a "photo - owning member" counts as a bug.

Bruce; have you been able to determine what happens if an album - owning / album - creator member leaves?

Chris


moderated Re: New feed page

 

Not sure group option makes sense. It’s member-specific, not group specific.


On Mar 8, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Ken Kloeber via Groups.Io <KWKloeber@...> wrote:

Like it.  Group Option to have that set as the home page?

 to me, FEED equates to “pushed”. 

Facebook. What’s a Facebook?  Is that anything like MySpace.  d ;-[o]

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moderated Re: New feed page

KWKloeber
 

Like it.  Group Option to have that set as the home page?

 to me, FEED equates to “pushed”. 

Facebook. What’s a Facebook?  Is that anything like MySpace.  d ;-[o]


moderated Re: disconnect between member categories (removed, left, banned, etc.)

 

I agree it’s better to keep the date, but he would have to change the name of the field/column. I guess that makes sense to do. There would probably have to be some internal futzing.

On Mar 8, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@sc.rr.com> wrote:

Received from J_Catlady at 3/8/2019 04:51 PM UTC:

...and (2) the banned list should be retitled "banning actions," and the joined date should either be retitled "banned date" OR be left out completely,

I wouldn't leave out the "banned date" completely... because I bet that a month or two down the line someone will want to know the date banned. I know I would.

Jim H



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moderated Re: New feed page

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Mark Fletcher at 3/8/2019 05:39 PM UTC:

A part of the (chronically late) app I'm been working on is a new screen, which I've called the feed. I've transferred that page to the website. It's not linked anywhere yet, but you can see it by going to https://groups.io/feed . The idea is to give you a look at the latest developments in your groups. I don't think it'll replace any existing page, but maybe it could become the new homepage for logged in people. I might add recent photos/files/chats as well.

Mark,

It seems like it would be useful to many, but I wouldn't want it to become my new homepage. Then again many might. How about making it an option, the default being as things are now.

Thanks for all you do.

Jim H


moderated Re: disconnect between member categories (removed, left, banned, etc.)

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 3/8/2019 04:51 PM UTC:

...and (2) the banned list should be retitled "banning actions," and the joined date should either be retitled "banned date" OR be left out completely,

I wouldn't leave out the "banned date" completely... because I bet that a month or two down the line someone will want to know the date banned. I know I would.

Jim H


moderated Re: Hide Italian 🇮🇹 quotes

Marina
 

Example:

El lun., 4 de marzo de 2019 19:44, Sean O'Sullivan <seanosullivanemail@...>
escribió:

Like
El [lun. ; mar. ; mer. ; gio. ; ven. ; sab. ; dom. OR lunedì ; martedì ;
mercoledì ; giovedì ; venerdì ; sabato ; domenica] , [1-31] de [gennaio ;
febbraio ; marzo ; aprile ; maggio ; giugno ; luglio ; agosto ; settembre ;
ottobre ; novembre ; dicembre ] de [year hours], [name <e-mail>] escribió:
Mark, I am not sure what the topic is about, but that is not Italian. It is a mix of Italian and Spanish.
The correct Italian is:

"Lunedì 4 marzo 2019 alle 19:44, Sean O'Sullivan <seanosullivanemail@... ha scritto:"

OR
(corrections in capital letters)

"[lun.; mar.; mer.; gio.; ven.; sab. ; dom. or lunedì; martedì;
mercoledì; giovedì; venerdì; sabato; domenica] , [1-31] [gennaio ;
febbraio ; marzo ; aprile ; maggio ; giugno ; luglio ; agosto ; settembre ;
ottobre ; novembre ; dicembre ] [year hours], [name <e-mail>] HA SCRITTO:"

We don't normally put "di" between the date and the month.

Best,
Marina


moderated Re: New feed page

Termicat
 

I like it better than Feed as well.
 
I rather like the page.
 
Termi
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
Reply-To: <main@beta.groups.io>
To: <main@beta.groups.io>
Sent: 3/8/2019 11:43:24 AM
Subject: Re: [beta] New feed page

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 01:31 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
A feed is a news aggregator used to collect related blog entries, news articles and the like in one place.
What would folks think of calling it the Summary page and changing the title to Your Groups Summary?  I don't think it would get confused with the Daily Summary that's emailed, but there might be a better name.

Duane


moderated Re: New feed page

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:43 AM, Duane wrote:
changing the title to Your Groups Summary
I like it better than "Feed." I think "Feed" sounds too much like Facebook (which I personally detest;)
 
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moderated Re: New feed page

Duane
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 01:31 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
A feed is a news aggregator used to collect related blog entries, news articles and the like in one place.
What would folks think of calling it the Summary page and changing the title to Your Groups Summary?  I don't think it would get confused with the Daily Summary that's emailed, but there might be a better name.

Duane


moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:54 AM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
Adding non-optional cancellation messages to all will excaberate the unsubscriptions.
If there were a #Canceled hashtag (or maybe #cal-canceled) added to those messages, then each group owner could decide if it would post, be moderated, etc., by changing the attributes.

Duane


moderated Re: New feed page

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 02:03 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:
I think first of having to explain things to people who are not involved in any kind of computer related anything that goes beyond finding things and reading, as if a book. Is there a Plain English word for “feed.”
A feed is a news aggregator used to collect related blog entries, news articles and the like in one place. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS for a description of the rss feed integration that is already available in groups.io.

Basically, this is a different way to display -- in one place -- the last four topics that have experienced some activity in each group that your account is subscribed to. I presume it is being presented for our consideration now in response to the recent "trawling" complaint.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: New feed page

Sharon Villines
 

On Mar 8, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

HA part of the (chronically late) app I'm been working on is a new screen, which I've called the feed. I've transferred that page to the website. It's not linked anywhere yet, but you can see it by going to https://groups.io/feed. The idea is to give you a look at the latest developments in your groups. I don't think it'll replace any existing page, but maybe it could become the new homepage for logged in people. I might add recent photos/files/chats as well.
Dinosaur view — what is a “feed” and what does it include — all messages to all your lists since when?

I think first of having to explain things to people who are not involved in any kind of computer related anything that goes beyond finding things and reading, as if a book. Is there a Plain English word for “feed.”

I think it is a good idea, particularly people who read on the web — you can see all new messages instead of clicking to this or that group. If you belong to 35 groups, it is unlikely that all would produce new messages everyday but if you don’t sign in often, it could still be a long unsorted list.

Sharon


moderated Re: Help to locate Members in the Directory and to enable easy Photo album 'owner' editing

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 12:11 PM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
However, it seems that something is not quite right when the io system automatically assumes that the newest member is the owner of an ‘unclaimed‘ photo album.
Peter -- Here's something I've found, which some may consider to be a bug.

If someone owns an album and later leaves the group, that album is left without an owner. If you come along later and click on "Edit Album," groups.io automatically populates the owner field with the person who most recently joined the group (i.e.: the first subscriber in the drop-down pick-list).

You don't have to actually open the drop-down and select the name, it just appears there, as if by magic. That person is not the actual owner, but to the uninitiated may appear to be. And if you happen to click on the "Update" button at this point, the assignment is saved.

This strikes me as a plausible explanation for how your problem came about.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. Another tip:  To select someone's name in the pick list, repeatedly type the first character in that person's Display Name, and you will eventually find it. That may seem somewhat crude, but it's still easier than trying to do so by meticulously scrolling through a list of 1000 subscribers.


moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

Mark,
Since we (think we) have the option of deleting the event sometime after it was cancelled, leaving it after performing a cancel satisfies those who wish to have that facility.
The message to all members of the group must be strictly optional.
In our large group, most of our unsubscriptions tell us that they receive too many messages having nothing to do with them or their locality.
Adding non-optional cancellation messages to all will excaberate the unsubscriptions.

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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: New feed page

 

Mark,

I like the idea (not sure I'd use it at this point), but I think it suffers from the same issue mentioned by Ron this morning, and even more so since the feed is supposed to give an idea specifically of recent happenings: namely, it shows topics, not messages, and the preview of each topic is of the first, not the most recent, message in the topic.
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moderated New feed page

 

Hi All,

A part of the (chronically late) app I'm been working on is a new screen, which I've called the feed. I've transferred that page to the website. It's not linked anywhere yet, but you can see it by going to https://groups.io/feed. The idea is to give you a look at the latest developments in your groups. I don't think it'll replace any existing page, but maybe it could become the new homepage for logged in people. I might add recent photos/files/chats as well.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

lloyd lehrer
 

Leave mtg cancelled on the calendar and send to all group members.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 9:32 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM Kenny Paul <kpaul@...> wrote:

Desired behavior:
  • The inclusion of a "cancel and delete meeting from calendar" option - << most import and time critical aspect of this enhancement request
  • If a meeting is canceled and an invitation email was sent from the calendar, with or without an RSVP request, a method to send a cancellation notification to the list as part of the cancellation process should be available to the user rather than relying on a separate user initiated message to the list.

Right now, the only concept of cancelling an event is with events that have RSVPs. You can cancel those events and are given the option to send an email to the people that RSVPed yes to the event. The cancelled event stays on the calendar, but is marked as cancelled. Until now, cancelled events were not included in the ICS feed that we publish. I've changed that so that cancelled events are included, but with status set to cancelled. I'm testing that to see if that removes the event from GCal (GCal takes a long time to refetch ICS feeds...) I need to extend the concept of cancelled events to all events.

When you cancel an event, do you want it to stay on the calendar in a cancelled state, or do you want it do disappear, like when you delete an event (ie is cancelling different from deleting)? If cancelling is different from deleting, then I'll add a cancel button to events that gives you an option to send a message to the group. That message will include an ICS attachment cancelling the event. And due to the change I already made to the ICS feed, that cancelled event should propagate to anyone that is using that (assuming the GCal test works).

Thanks,
Mark



moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM Kenny Paul <kpaul@...> wrote:

Desired behavior:
  • The inclusion of a "cancel and delete meeting from calendar" option - << most import and time critical aspect of this enhancement request
  • If a meeting is canceled and an invitation email was sent from the calendar, with or without an RSVP request, a method to send a cancellation notification to the list as part of the cancellation process should be available to the user rather than relying on a separate user initiated message to the list.

Right now, the only concept of cancelling an event is with events that have RSVPs. You can cancel those events and are given the option to send an email to the people that RSVPed yes to the event. The cancelled event stays on the calendar, but is marked as cancelled. Until now, cancelled events were not included in the ICS feed that we publish. I've changed that so that cancelled events are included, but with status set to cancelled. I'm testing that to see if that removes the event from GCal (GCal takes a long time to refetch ICS feeds...) I need to extend the concept of cancelled events to all events.

When you cancel an event, do you want it to stay on the calendar in a cancelled state, or do you want it do disappear, like when you delete an event (ie is cancelling different from deleting)? If cancelling is different from deleting, then I'll add a cancel button to events that gives you an option to send a message to the group. That message will include an ICS attachment cancelling the event. And due to the change I already made to the ICS feed, that cancelled event should propagate to anyone that is using that (assuming the GCal test works).

Thanks,
Mark



moderated Re: Help to locate Members in the Directory and to enable easy Photo album 'owner' editing

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 05:11 PM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
However, it seems that something is not quite right when the io system automatically assumes that the newest member is the owner of an ‘unclaimed‘ photo album.
Bit of a sweeping assertion that; I've never seen it before and IIRC no - one else has reported it.

A long shot, but worth checking... make sure that your new(est) member hasn't been turned into a moderator with editing rights!

Chris

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