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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 08:38 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:
So yet another problem arising from failure to manage in a timely manner..
I'll agree to disagree with you on this. I think it's a failure more of notification than of "failure to manage." 
 
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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 


All my groups are restricted and I don't get a notification that new members are still NC. I have to visit my groups (aka "manage my groups") to see that... despite greatly preferring to manage via email as much as possible. So yet another problem arising from failure to manage in a timely manner... tho it seems like sorting on status would be beneficial to those who find themselves waaaay behind the 8-ball... and probably trivial to implement.

Jim H



Received from J_Catlady at 2/28/2019 03:32 PM UTC:

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:26 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:
if they were dealt with in a TIMELY manner they shouldn't be scattered all thruout the member list.

I don't think there's any notification, in an unrestricted group, that new members are NC. So they're added to the members list and the moderators may not see them until years later, if ever.



moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 08:14 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I did not know that "resend confirmation e-mail" was available as a bulk action.
Actually I just double-checked that, and it's not. :-) It's not included in the dropdown actions that you can do after selecting a member. However, having all the NC members in one group at the top of the list would still make it easier to do the resends individually. And if you had the ordering AND the addition of "resend confirmation email" as one of the dropdown actions on selected members, that would completely solve the problem.
 
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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/02/28 04:34 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 01:13 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
are you asking (per your subject line) for a feature that would send
a generic reminder t
I think it's pretty clear she's asking for a feature - either a sort, or a separate category (as in "bouncing members") - that allows you to easily access and select all the NC members at once in order to perform a bulk action on them, the action being "resend confirmation email."
Aah, thanks. I did not know that "resend confirmation e-mail" was available as a bulk action.

Samuel


moderated Re: From address re-writing

 

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 02:28 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
We should now be re-writing the From lines for post to sub messages.
Mark,

Bcc's on moderator "send message to member" emails in gmail are now fine. However, bcc's on PMs have the spam warning. Was the change supposed to fix that? If not, I can live with it, but a fix would be great!
 
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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:41 AM, dave w wrote:
you might use natural language rather than code
It's a commonly used groups.io term. It's not "code."
 
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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 01:13 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
are you asking (per your subject line) for a feature that would send a generic reminder t
I think it's pretty clear she's asking for a feature - either a sort, or a separate category (as in "bouncing members") - that allows you to easily access and select all the NC members at once in order to perform a bulk action on them, the action being "resend confirmation email."
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:26 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:
if they were dealt with in a TIMELY manner they shouldn't be scattered all thruout the member list.
I don't think there's any notification, in an unrestricted group, that new members are NC. So they're added to the members list and the moderators may not see them until years later, if ever. That's not the case in the group I own (which is restricted and highly monitored for new members), but it's definitely the case in one very large group I moderate, and very likely others as well. Every so often, I go into the members list there and randomly pick a couple of NC members to resend confirmation emails to. It's too difficult, as the OP in this thread says, to find them all easily. So the dozens (possibly hundreds?) of others stay NC. The group owner and the other moderator, new to groups.io, are clueless about the situation, although every so often I try to help by letting them know about the NC members, and/or resending a couple of confirmation emails myself. Being able to sort by them and thereby being able to do a bulk "resend confirmation email" action would help tremendously. 
 
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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 


In my limited experience, NC only applies to new members who haven't confirmed their membership... so if they were dealt with in a TIMELY manner they shouldn't be scattered all thruout the member list. They should be near the top if sorted chronologically with newest being first. What's the "not necessarily" aspect that I'm missing?

Jim H



Received from J_Catlady at 2/27/2019 06:04 PM UTC:

Not necessarily. NC's in at least one of the groups I moderate are scattered throughout a 3,000-member list.



On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:57 AM Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@...> wrote:
I don't understand why you have to go thru the whole member list. NC's should be among only your most recent new members, so they should near the top if sorted chronologically. Jim H


moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/02/27 04:09 PM, Linda wrote:

Having to go through the whole member list to nudge NCs to confirm is time consuming. If the NCs could be listed separately, as bouncing members are, it would be very helpful.
So, are you asking (per your subject line) for a feature that would send a generic reminder to all unconfirmed members, or are you asking (per your mail body) for an option to list unconfirmed members in a separate list?

Samuel


moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 08:41 AM, dave w wrote:
Perhaps for the rest of us to determine relevance, you might use natural language rather than code,
NC = Not Confirmed. Applies to those applicants for membership of a group who have not completed the necessary exchange with Groups.io to confirm that their application is real and not a spammer (etc) trying to get in. They are something of a pain.

Chris


moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

dave w
 

hi
Perhaps for the rest of us to determine relevance, you might use natural language rather than code,
thanks davew==


moderated Reminder about media sharing groups

 

Hello,

I've recently shut down some media sharing groups. Those types of groups are specifically not allowed, as they traffic in copyrighted music, which is both against our Terms of Service and is against the law.

Media sharing groups are not welcome here; they use lots of resources, and I'll be more closely looking for them in the future.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Suggested updates to message footer

KWKloeber
 

<<here’s what it looked like....>>

email clients, like modems used to be, are a box of chocolates. In my delivery, most of the screen you pasted was truncated.  Sorta, but not exactly like the (unexpanded) IO UI display below. 








Everything below the [...] (more) click-on is truncated and the [ ... ] click-on itself (above, IO UI) is vaporized in the iMail that I received  

-k


moderated Re: Suggested updates to message footer

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/02/27 07:21 PM, Ken Kloeber via Groups.Io wrote:

I don't know why my example (of the reply running together with orig msg) didn't work.  It was in my reply ”correctly” - but for whatever reason io stripped out something or other.
I think I saw what you were trying to illustrate:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/20008

Here's what it looked like in my e-mail program (attachment).

Samuel


moderated Re: Suggested updates to message footer

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/02/27 05:14 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:09 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
All I had to do to include the selective quote from your message
was to highlight the bit I wanted to focus on and then click on
"Reply". The highlighted passage was /automatically/ imported into
the reply for me. It could hardly be easier.
And this has been "standard operating procedure" on a wide variety of
web forum interfaces for a very long time now.
Which just goes to show that we all move in some very different circles. I have never encountered the behaviour you/Chris mention (although it might exist without me knowing about it), and it would never have occurred to me to even try it.

(It does work that way in my e-mail program, although I guess I've never gotten into the habit of using it because it means you have to decide what text you want to quote BEFORE you click "Reply", heh-heh.)

What I have seen on may web forums is that there is both a "Reply" and a
"Quote" button (but yes: the "Quote" button quotes everything).

Your only choice with the quoting mechanism is to quote the whole
message and then take out what you don't want/need in the reply
composition window.
I've been doing this for years. (-:

Samuel


moderated Gmail From line re-writing

 

Hi All,

FYI, I've started to proactively look for Gmail hosted domains, and setting them so that the From line for messages sent by those users back to themselves is re-written. (I'm looking at the DNS MX records for these domains, which point to google.com).

I'm looking at maybe doing something similar for Exchange, but it's not clear to me how or if I should do that.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Suggested updates to message footer

KWKloeber
 

Re: copy/paste:
 
Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but I see no need to use separate windows.  I find it simple. 
There’s pry nothing more convoluted than doing such bottom-copying, than on an iOS phone.  Certainly on a tab or windows laptop is easier. 
 
I just:
1) Highlight (”select-all” or handles, depending); 
2) Reply; 
3) Paste into my reply email.  
 
Why are separate windows necessary - I’m in only the email app.  What am I missing?
 
And if I’m using a web io UI window it’s even easier to copy the orig msg.  OR, copy/paste only the txt you want bottom-copied and block quote it (apply indent and the left side bar [pipe?]).
 
I don't know why my example (of the reply running together with orig msg) didn't work.  It was in my reply ”correctly” - but for whatever reason io stripped out something or other. 
 
BTW - unrelated but it's not just iMail that ran together the example I tried to show (delivered email lost the indent & pipe) - the Outlook app did it as well. 
 
Email has been around forever; why can't they all just play nice together?
 
-k


moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

 

Not necessarily. NC's in at least one of the groups I moderate are scattered throughout a 3,000-member list.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:57 AM Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@...> wrote:



I don't understand why you have to go thru the whole member list. NC's should
be among only your most recent new members, so they should near the top if
sorted chronologically.

Jim H









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moderated Re: Bulk reminders for NCs #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Linda at 2/27/2019 03:09 PM UTC:

Having to go through the whole member list to nudge NCs to confirm is time consuming. If the NCs could be listed separately, as bouncing members are, it would be very helpful.

I don't understand why you have to go thru the whole member list. NC's should be among only your most recent new members, so they should near the top if sorted chronologically.

Jim H

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