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moderated Re: New feed page

 

Mark,

I like the idea (not sure I'd use it at this point), but I think it suffers from the same issue mentioned by Ron this morning, and even more so since the feed is supposed to give an idea specifically of recent happenings: namely, it shows topics, not messages, and the preview of each topic is of the first, not the most recent, message in the topic.
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moderated New feed page

 

Hi All,

A part of the (chronically late) app I'm been working on is a new screen, which I've called the feed. I've transferred that page to the website. It's not linked anywhere yet, but you can see it by going to https://groups.io/feed. The idea is to give you a look at the latest developments in your groups. I don't think it'll replace any existing page, but maybe it could become the new homepage for logged in people. I might add recent photos/files/chats as well.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

lloyd lehrer
 

Leave mtg cancelled on the calendar and send to all group members.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 9:32 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM Kenny Paul <kpaul@...> wrote:

Desired behavior:
  • The inclusion of a "cancel and delete meeting from calendar" option - << most import and time critical aspect of this enhancement request
  • If a meeting is canceled and an invitation email was sent from the calendar, with or without an RSVP request, a method to send a cancellation notification to the list as part of the cancellation process should be available to the user rather than relying on a separate user initiated message to the list.

Right now, the only concept of cancelling an event is with events that have RSVPs. You can cancel those events and are given the option to send an email to the people that RSVPed yes to the event. The cancelled event stays on the calendar, but is marked as cancelled. Until now, cancelled events were not included in the ICS feed that we publish. I've changed that so that cancelled events are included, but with status set to cancelled. I'm testing that to see if that removes the event from GCal (GCal takes a long time to refetch ICS feeds...) I need to extend the concept of cancelled events to all events.

When you cancel an event, do you want it to stay on the calendar in a cancelled state, or do you want it do disappear, like when you delete an event (ie is cancelling different from deleting)? If cancelling is different from deleting, then I'll add a cancel button to events that gives you an option to send a message to the group. That message will include an ICS attachment cancelling the event. And due to the change I already made to the ICS feed, that cancelled event should propagate to anyone that is using that (assuming the GCal test works).

Thanks,
Mark



moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM Kenny Paul <kpaul@...> wrote:

Desired behavior:
  • The inclusion of a "cancel and delete meeting from calendar" option - << most import and time critical aspect of this enhancement request
  • If a meeting is canceled and an invitation email was sent from the calendar, with or without an RSVP request, a method to send a cancellation notification to the list as part of the cancellation process should be available to the user rather than relying on a separate user initiated message to the list.

Right now, the only concept of cancelling an event is with events that have RSVPs. You can cancel those events and are given the option to send an email to the people that RSVPed yes to the event. The cancelled event stays on the calendar, but is marked as cancelled. Until now, cancelled events were not included in the ICS feed that we publish. I've changed that so that cancelled events are included, but with status set to cancelled. I'm testing that to see if that removes the event from GCal (GCal takes a long time to refetch ICS feeds...) I need to extend the concept of cancelled events to all events.

When you cancel an event, do you want it to stay on the calendar in a cancelled state, or do you want it do disappear, like when you delete an event (ie is cancelling different from deleting)? If cancelling is different from deleting, then I'll add a cancel button to events that gives you an option to send a message to the group. That message will include an ICS attachment cancelling the event. And due to the change I already made to the ICS feed, that cancelled event should propagate to anyone that is using that (assuming the GCal test works).

Thanks,
Mark



moderated Re: Help to locate Members in the Directory and to enable easy Photo album 'owner' editing

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 05:11 PM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
However, it seems that something is not quite right when the io system automatically assumes that the newest member is the owner of an ‘unclaimed‘ photo album.
Bit of a sweeping assertion that; I've never seen it before and IIRC no - one else has reported it.

A long shot, but worth checking... make sure that your new(est) member hasn't been turned into a moderator with editing rights!

Chris


moderated Re: Help to locate Members in the Directory and to enable easy Photo album 'owner' editing

Peter Rawbone
 

Hello Chris,

Thanks for your message.  As we closed the Y! Group, we can’t check so will have to accept the situation.  However, it seems that something is not quite right when the io system automatically assumes that the newest member is the owner of an ‘unclaimed‘ photo album.

Peter


moderated Re: Read posts

Ron Duxbury
 

Thanks for that tip Bruce. Regards Ron

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 16:27, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 09:43 AM, Ron Duxbury wrote:
I am a member of another group https://www.phpbb.com which enables you to go to the newest post in a thread, instead of trawling through posts I've already seen. Is this feature available on groups?
It's my understanding that this will someday be a feature of the groups.io app. Meanwhile, you can click on the blue "Date" link at upper right to invert the sort order.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: disconnect between member categories (removed, left, banned, etc.)

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 08:51 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
if you first ban and then remove a member, the result differs from banning and then removing them,
mental typo: should read 
 if you first ban and then remove a member, the result differs from removing and then banning them, 
 
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moderated disconnect between member categories (removed, left, banned, etc.)

 

I've brought this up before in other contexts but it keeps coming up again and again in yet other contexts. I continue to hope something can eventually be done about the disconnect between banning and removing a member (or the member leaving).

For example, I mentioned in the past that a banned member does not automatically show up in the "past" list. You have to specifically go in and remove the member after banning them (which is nonintuitive). And if you first ban and then remove a member, the result differs from banning and then removing them, whereas intuitively, it seems like these two actions should be commutative (even if you accept that banning does not include removal in the first place;).

Today, I noticed a couple more things. I wanted to remove and ban a member. The member had an "override - moderated" status. I first removed the member, causing her to show up in the "past members" list. So far, so good. Then I banned her and she showed up in the "banned" list with NuM, as if she were a new member to the group, with a join date of the date banned. Bottom line, the "banned members" list behaves as if each email address in it "joined" the banned members group on the date they were banned, as they are a new member to that. I think that (1) the banned list should not include the posting status. It's a meaningless field here because all members are treated as new members, and all have status NuM (in my group); and (2) the banned list should be retitled "banning actions," and the joined date should either be retitled "banned date" OR be left out completely,

Also, similar to the banned list (but slightly different in effect), the "past members" list does not actually show past members. It shows "left' or "removal" *actions*. Email addresses can and do show up in the list multiple times. So it's the actions that are really notated in the list, not the members. It might be helpful to simply retitle the list accordingly - something like "removals and recusals" (I would have to think to come up with something better). 

I think those things would be something of a start in getting this area cleaned up.

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moderated Re: Read posts

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 08:27 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
you can click on the blue "Date" link at upper right to invert the sort order.
That's still trawling. ;)
 
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moderated Re: Read posts

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 09:43 AM, Ron Duxbury wrote:
I am a member of another group https://www.phpbb.com which enables you to go to the newest post in a thread, instead of trawling through posts I've already seen. Is this feature available on groups?
It's my understanding that this will someday be a feature of the groups.io app. Meanwhile, you can click on the blue "Date" link at upper right to invert the sort order.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Read posts

 

This has been discussed at great length here in the past, but I don't remember whether Mark came to any conclusions on it. I'd love to have that ability as well.
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moderated Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Patty Sliney
 

I am again hoping that I can suggest that we add the ability for users to be able to set their Photos sort options, both albums and within albums.  Yahoo Groups has this feature, and all my my groups use it.  For my groups, which are sewing/embroidery/quilting based, we use the photos sections pretty heavily, to post up our projects.  So, discussion ensues on the list about the projects.  List members want to go see the newly posted photos, but trying to find the albums and the photos is very difficult.  Many of my list members are not particularly computer-savvy, and they just don't "see" the sort button, or really know how to use it. So, list mods are constantly having to explain how to re-sort the photo albums by "Sort By Created" down arrow, then sort the album photos by "Sort By Posted" down arrow.  If list members could either set their sort preferences, OR, if they set the sort once, it is "remembered" until they re-sort, that would be extremely helpful.  The default album "Sort by Title" is not helpful, as we use a monthly photo album system due to the number of our list members (way too many list members to allow individual photo albums), and the album default sort, "Sort By Name" is useless for us, since literally none of my list members re-name their photos.  Hoping to get this request bumped up the added features list?  I know others have also wished for this to be added in.

Patty S.


moderated Read posts

Ron Duxbury
 

I am a member of another group https://www.phpbb.com which enables you to go to the newest post in a thread, instead of trawling through posts I've already seen. Is this feature available on groups?

Regards

Ron Duxbury


moderated Re: Spreadsheet #suggestion

Duane
 

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, our group uses a database for a similar function.  Can't you set one up to do what you want?

Duane


moderated Re: #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

Kenny Paul
 

  • Also cancellations should appear in the activity log.
Sorry for forgetting that one.
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moderated #calendar #suggestion #feature Improved functionality for Calendar Cancellations #suggestion

Kenny Paul
 

Relates to https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/13441

The current implementation of meeting cancellation is a obstacle to wide scale calendar adoption by communities that primarily rely upon url subscriptions to a GIO calendar.

At the core of the issue is generally when someone cancels a meeting the assumption is that everyone gets notified and the meeting goes away. Education can only go so far on this when dealing with hundreds of calendar subscribers across multiple sub groups.  The reliance on the RSVP function and the fact that the event remains posted are proving inadequate for the following reasons:

A) it assumes that the RSVP function is being used by everyone. Religiously. This is almost never  the case for a url subscribed calendar user.
B) For folks subscribed via url it still looks like the meeting is there, unchanged.
C) A color change for a meeting as the key indicator that it has been cxld isn't meaningful. (This is true even if looking at the cal in GIO since meeting colors can be changed easily). Also color changes do not propagate to a subscribed calendar.
D) If a user subscribes to the calendar via url after the the meeting was cxld they have no way of knowing it shouldn't be there in the first place.

Desired behavior:
  • The inclusion of a "cancel and delete meeting from calendar" option - << most import and time critical aspect of this enhancement request
  • If a meeting is canceled and an invitation email was sent from the calendar, with or without an RSVP request, a method to send a cancellation notification to the list as part of the cancellation process should be available to the user rather than relying on a separate user initiated message to the list.

Thanks for the consideration.
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The Linux Foundation
Pacific Time Zone


moderated Spreadsheet #suggestion

Daniel Kravitz
 

We currently use Google Excel sheets as a sign-up sheet, the problem is that not everyone has a Google account, and some people find it too complicated. My suggestion is to add a shared spreadsheet function so group members can sign up for certain events and making it visible to everyone in the group.


moderated Re: Hide Italian 🇮🇹 quotes

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:56 AM Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:
Example:
El lun., 4 de marzo de 2019 19:44, Sean O'Sullivan <seanosullivanemail@...> escribió:
Like
El [lun. ; mar. ; mer. ; gio. ; ven. ; sab. ; dom. OR lunedì ; martedì ; mercoledì ; giovedì ; venerdì ; sabato ; domenica] , [1-31] de [gennaio ; febbraio ; marzo ; aprile ; maggio ; giugno ; luglio ; agosto ; settembre ; ottobre ; novembre ; dicembre ] de [year hours], [name <e-mail>] escribió:

I've added this, and it is also retroactive.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Help to locate Members in the Directory and to enable easy Photo album 'owner' editing

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 08:09 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
Even then, it was of little help as in many cases, the original owner no longer existed even in Yahoo.
This is a "feature". If at the time of transfer from Yahoo a photo's originator is no longer a member of the Yahoo group then by definition they cannot become a member of the successor (Groups.io) group and the photo is automatically credited to the person who initiated the transfer. The original photo owner will not appear in any Groups.io picklist so there is no point in trying to restore their name; it is simply not there to be found.

Was the new member who suddenly found themselves credited with some photos ever a member of the previous Yahoo group? If so, I wonder if there is some sort of concealed record of previous ownership. I cannot think of any other mechanism to explain this.

Chris

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