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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 12/12/2018 03:41 PM UTC:

Or, maybe we are just a contentious bunch. :)

No, we aren't! ;-)

Jim H


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

Or, maybe we are just a contentious bunch. :)
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 07:17 AM, kr402 wrote:
Why can't someone make a suggestion without it being debated to death?
Well, to (perhaps ironically - or self-referentially?) add to the debate: I think debating a feature here is fine, as long as the debate is from the user's point of view. However, I don't think that the argument that something is too much work for Mark, or is "too hard to implement," is relevant, except perhaps as a passing speculation. As a former software engineer, I have a couple of times made such speculations about suggested features (including my own), but I would not presume to pass judgment on a feature based on that concern. I do think Mark gets information from debates here about how we as users would feel about a feature.
 
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

kr402
 

Right.
Why can't someone make a suggestion without it being debated to death?
Catlady has made a suggestion, lets see what Marc thinks and if implemented
you do not have to disable the feature if you want to keep like. 

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 7:06 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Funny how there is always a comment, relative to any suggested feature, that someone 
doesn't want it and thinks it is too much work for Mark. I think that's up to Mark.  

If it gets implemented and you don't "Like" it, then don't use it! Simple! 


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 05:45 AM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I don't "like" the idea of an option to disables "Likes", in that I believe it is a relatively frivolous idea that adds development work for an extremely small market sector.
Funny how there is always a comment, relative to any suggested feature, that someone doesn't want it and thinks it is too much work for Mark. I think that's up to Mark.  

If it gets implemented and you don't "Like" it, then don't use it! Simple! 
 
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

KWKloeber
 

Hear, hear about that option.
Or LIKE, LIKE!!


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

Yes and no. :)


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:29 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:11 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
Very good POINT about it being pointless. :)
That fact that several people have "liked" posts in this "I don't like 'likes'" thread has a certain irony to it, too.

Bruce


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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 08:29 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:11 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
Very good POINT about it being pointless. :)
That fact that several people have "liked" posts in this "I don't like 'likes'" thread has a certain irony to it, too.

Bruce
I don't "like" the idea of an option to disables "Likes", in that I believe it is a relatively frivolous idea that adds development work for an extremely small market sector.

In fact, if Mark were to add "Dislikes", then I wouldn't even have to comment on this idea.
 
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Drew
 

Hah,hah... ironic indeed.

And to think, a while back I suggested replacing the like-only button with "pro" and "con" buttons (or how about "me too" and "not me"?) that would give all readers a chance to register opinion, positive and negative, whether they wanted to bother explaining themselves in a reply, or not.

Maybe that was probably the original intent of "like": to prompt activity from people who otherwise did not choose to post on a topic for whatever reason.

Anyhow, I would not mind seeing the wimpy, one-sided "like" go away; or be made optional if it is not a problem to add another optional feature to groups.

Drew

On 12/12/18 07:29, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:11 AM, J_Catlady wrote:


Very good POINT about it being pointless. :)
That fact that several people have "liked" posts in this "I don't like 'likes'" thread has a certain irony to it, too.
Bruce


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:11 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
Very good POINT about it being pointless. :)
That fact that several people have "liked" posts in this "I don't like 'likes'" thread has a certain irony to it, too.

Bruce


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 04:04 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
putting the number of likes in the footers of such messages is pointless.
Very good POINT about it being pointless. :)
 
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 12/11/2018 11:03 PM UTC:

If you are suggesting three different options - allow Likes, disallow Likes, or add Likes to messages - then I would not favor that idea because I think it's over-complicated and unrealistic.

Yes... and adding likes to message footers is also pointless. People visiting their groups on Gio can already see how many likes there are. Those receiving messages at home will receive messages before anyone has a chance to read and like them so putting the number of likes in the footers of such messages is pointless.

A group option to allow likes or disallow likes makes sense. An option to display the number of likes in message footers would serve no purpose.

Jim H


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

If you are suggesting three different options - allow Likes, disallow Likes, or add Likes to messages - then I would not favor that idea because I think it's over-complicated and unrealistic.

If you are suggesting simply adding "Likes" to messages instead of allowing an option to disable Likes entirely, that does not solve my issue.

If you are suggesting that Likes be added to all messages, in addition to the option to disable them in any given group, I have no objection to that. It would allow group members who only interact with a group via email to see the Likes.
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
I favor everyone and/or every Owner having all choices, rather than eliminating any choice that one or some person(s) does not like for everyone else.
As do I. I am suggesting a group option. I am not suggesting taking away "Likes" from all groups.
 
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Dec 11, 2018, at 5:22 PM, J_Catlady <@J_Catlady> wrote:

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 01:50 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Alternately, perhaps Likes could be added to messages, probably at the top of the footer.
That would not alleviate my issue or the others. I want to disable them entirely, for all the reasons mentioned.
I understand you do not like “Likes”

I favor everyone and/or every Owner having all choices, rather than eliminating any choice that one or some person(s) does not like for everyone else.
More options (flexibility) to satisfy all desires.


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 01:50 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Alternately, perhaps Likes could be added to messages, probably at the top of the footer.
That would not alleviate my issue or the others. I want to disable them entirely, for all the reasons mentioned.
 
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Dec 11, 2018, at 5:31 AM, J_Catlady <@J_Catlady> wrote:

I agree with that, too, especially since members interacting only via email don’t see the Likes. I know part of the idea of Likes is to cut down on clutter, which is great for groups worried about that.
Alternately, perhaps Likes could be added to messages, probably at the top of the footer.


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 12/11/2018 07:06 AM UTC:

If I could, I would turn off "Likes" in my group.
Add me to the list for being able to disable "Likes."

Jim H


moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

 

I agree with that, too, especially since members interacting only via email don’t see the Likes. I know part of the idea of Likes is to cut down on clutter, which is great for groups worried about that. But I’m not one of those and would Like to get rid of Likes.:)


On Dec 11, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Sue via Groups.Io <sue.tier@...> wrote:

I would agree with this albeit for a different reason.
I prefer people to engage with the group Even if they only post a 'me too' type comment. I would rather they didn't have that lazy option since I'm fairly sure nobody ever checks to see if their comment was 'liked'.
Sue




On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:06 AM +0000, "J_Catlady" <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

If I could, I would turn off "Likes" in my group. They sometimes turn into competitions, they can increase hostility between group members who disagree with each other, and sometimes someone "Likes" every single post addressed to them (which is just a personal pet peeve). So I am requesting the ability to disable this feature in a group.
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moderated Re: ability to disable "Like" feature #suggestion

Sue
 

I would agree with this albeit for a different reason.
I prefer people to engage with the group Even if they only post a 'me too' type comment. I would rather they didn't have that lazy option since I'm fairly sure nobody ever checks to see if their comment was 'liked'.
Sue




On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:06 AM +0000, "J_Catlady" <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

If I could, I would turn off "Likes" in my group. They sometimes turn into competitions, they can increase hostility between group members who disagree with each other, and sometimes someone "Likes" every single post addressed to them (which is just a personal pet peeve). So I am requesting the ability to disable this feature in a group.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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