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moderated log the confirmation email in the member's "email delivery history"

 

This is either a bug report or feature request, not sure which: I have a non-premium group for my block, to which members of the old block yahoo group are suddenly flocking to over the last couple of days. Since it's non-premium (unlike my cats group), I can't automatically confirm members by approving them. And I notice that the confirmation email, even when resent, is not being recorded or included in the email delivery history. For one particular member, the last email recorded there is the group guidelines, even though I resent the confirmation email twice after approving her membership.

If this email is not being recorded in the email delivery history, I think it should be. If it is now supposedly being recorded there, then there may be a bug. If so, I can send you (Mark) the details offlist.

Thanks.
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J

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moderated Re: GIO in the long term

Drew
 

FYI- Since Oct 16th when the Yahoo shutdown news hit there have been approx 1,700 new Groups.io groups created; over 200 today, so far...

Drew

On 10/18/19 13:35, ladykrolocksrose wrote:
umm yahoo's been headed this direction for a while, it was just a matter of when.....  thankfully the really good groups i was in on yahoo have, for the most part, left yahoo already and come here or google groups.
but sadly, yes, there are still people that don't believe it....
Cheryl
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:35 AM Bärbel Stephenson <Lismibaebi@gmail.com <mailto:Lismibaebi@gmail.com>> wrote:
I can assure you that many involved in yahoo groups for many years
do not believe the news yet and are confident that yahoo will not do
what they said they will...
And I actually got told off in a group yesterday for spreading
untruths...
Barbara
/-------Original Message-------/
/*From:*/ J_Catlady <mailto:j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com>
/*Date:*/ 10/17/2019 16:48:03
/*To:*/ main@beta.groups.io <mailto:main@beta.groups.io>
/*Subject:*/ Re: [beta] GIO in the long term
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Victoria wrote:
/I really do worry about Mark´s health./
He seriously needs to charge extra for the spate of rushed
transfers; I wasn't kidding about that. He could use the money to
hire some drones to do the transfers. (And the people doing the late
transfers should be charged a penalty anyway. :)
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J
/Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy
ones./
/My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human
together. - Desmond Tutu/


moderated Re: Partial attachments outage

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 8:21 AM Pablo Sanchez <pablo@...> wrote:

By any chance would the above fixed caused the regular 24h Digest to not be published?

One of my groups did not send its Digest early this morning. 


Different issue. Late last night, while the digests were running, due to a separate issue, the database ran out of connections, causing intermittent errors for about half an hour until I was able to fix it.

The last few days have been challenging keeping the site up and responsive. Some time in the next week I'm going to have to upgrade the database machine, which will require about an hour of downtime. I'll post a notice a few days in advance.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Partial attachments outage

Pablo Sanchez <pablo@...>
 

Hey Mark,

By any chance would the above fixed caused the regular 24h Digest to not be published?

One of my groups did not send its Digest early this morning. 

I had to email to it an additional number to trigger the 12 messages threshold.  I checked a handful of my users and none received the Digest until I did my little hack.

Thx!
-pablo


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Various software changes and additional machines to deal with the extreme massive influx of new groups.
  • NEW: For premium/enterprise groups on annual billing, we now send out a courtesy reminder two weeks before billing them.
  • API: Added signature to member_info object.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Would love to have the ability to put albums within albums

Ginny T.
 

I would like to see this, too
Ginny
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moderated Re: option to auto-reset inactive members to NuM after specified time interval #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Oct 18, 2019, at 3:05 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:01 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Only if they go to the website and check.
Of course. That's the only way they can ever know their status, and basically everything else about their subscription/membership. Not sure what your point is.
Just accuracy


moderated Re: option to auto-reset inactive members to NuM after specified time interval #suggestion

 

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:01 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Only if they go to the website and check.
Of course. That's the only way they can ever know their status, and basically everything else about their subscription/membership. Not sure what your point is.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: option to auto-reset inactive members to NuM after specified time interval #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:12 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com> wrote:
And members always know their posting status in a group,
Not true.
so no, they would know that they've been reset because they would be able to see NuM for that group on their groups list.
Only if they go to the website and check.
I think there is some miscommunication here?
Yes.


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

ladykrolocksrose <ladykrolocksrose@...>
 

umm yahoo's been headed this direction for a while, it was just a matter of when.....  thankfully the really good groups i was in on yahoo have, for the most part, left yahoo already and come here or google groups.  but sadly, yes, there are still people that don't believe it....

Cheryl

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:35 AM Bärbel Stephenson <Lismibaebi@...> wrote:
I can assure you that many involved in yahoo groups for many years do not believe the news yet and are confident that yahoo will not do what they said they will...
And I actually got told off in a group yesterday for spreading untruths...
 
Barbara 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: J_Catlady
Date: 10/17/2019 16:48:03
Subject: Re: [beta] GIO in the long term
 
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Victoria wrote:
I really do worry about Mark´s health.
He seriously needs to charge extra for the spate of rushed transfers; I wasn't kidding about that. He could use the money to hire some drones to do the transfers. (And the people doing the late transfers should be charged a penalty anyway. :)
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

 


moderated Re: Partial attachments outage

 

This has now been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mark Fletcher via Groups.Io <markf=corp.groups.io@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,

For about two hours this morning, we were storing message attachments in the wrong place. This means for messages sent in the last two hours, the attachments won't currently appear. I've fixed the configuration issue and now I need to go through and move the attachments back to the right place. I expect this to be completed within the next two hours. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Partial attachments outage

 

Hi All,

For about two hours this morning, we were storing message attachments in the wrong place. This means for messages sent in the last two hours, the attachments won't currently appear. I've fixed the configuration issue and now I need to go through and move the attachments back to the right place. I expect this to be completed within the next two hours. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

harryh89@...
 

"Usenet was around forever"  and still is around because it has minimal control.  Content in binary groups now exceeds three years and text groups even longer.  But Usenet must be navigated by special readers that few can grasp.  Forming a new group is difficult but older obsolete groups can be reused if carried by service providers.  Created before the WWW, Usenet is likely to exist but only for specialists.  


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

Glenn Glazer
 

On 10/17/2019 16:50, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
the only sure, long term things are Death and Taxes, to quote a fairly ancient pundit.
If you waste your time looking for "the best and longest lasting" thing, you are truly wasting your time and will never be quite satisfied.

Indeed. I am fairly sure that groups.io will not outlast the heat death of the universe.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: GIO in the long term

Bob Bellizzi
 

the only sure, long term things are Death and Taxes, to quote a fairly ancient pundit.
If you waste your time looking for "the best and longest lasting" thing, you are truly wasting your time and will never be quite satisfied.
Yahoo groups WAS a bastardization of either ecircles or egroups, which was Mark's creation.

Check to see if Google Groups operates equally well onliine as well as offline for someone who does not have a gmail address.
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Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

 

I see that emoticon didn't make it through. Let me try again. 
😊 😻


On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 4:03 PM J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
At least you are finally moving. 🤪


On Oct 17, 2019, at 3:47 PM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Maybe you heard about the most recent yahoo debacle only a day ago, but many of us have been warning many yahoo groups (including cats groups) for months, and in some cases years, that yahoo was on the verge of this, and urging them to move. And instead of being thanked, we have been poo-poo'd and worse. That's been frustrating.  In the face of many yahoo groups' files suddenly disappearing even starting years ago, and messages taking many hours to post or not post at all, or just disappearing, many yahoo groups members and owners have respond to suggestions to move to groups.io with "everything is fine, what do you expect from a free service, don't tell us what to do" etc. Hence my feeling that groups who have dug their heels in and refused to move shouldn't be complaining now. They had many chances to move and they resisted.

Not sure whether this applies to your group or not, but surely your group has experienced all the negative events that all the rest of yahoo groups have over the past few years.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

 

At least you are finally moving. 🤪


On Oct 17, 2019, at 3:47 PM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Maybe you heard about the most recent yahoo debacle only a day ago, but many of us have been warning many yahoo groups (including cats groups) for months, and in some cases years, that yahoo was on the verge of this, and urging them to move. And instead of being thanked, we have been poo-poo'd and worse. That's been frustrating.  In the face of many yahoo groups' files suddenly disappearing even starting years ago, and messages taking many hours to post or not post at all, or just disappearing, many yahoo groups members and owners have respond to suggestions to move to groups.io with "everything is fine, what do you expect from a free service, don't tell us what to do" etc. Hence my feeling that groups who have dug their heels in and refused to move shouldn't be complaining now. They had many chances to move and they resisted.

Not sure whether this applies to your group or not, but surely your group has experienced all the negative events that all the rest of yahoo groups have over the past few years.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

 

Maybe you heard about the most recent yahoo debacle only a day ago, but many of us have been warning many yahoo groups (including cats groups) for months, and in some cases years, that yahoo was on the verge of this, and urging them to move. And instead of being thanked, we have been poo-poo'd and worse. That's been frustrating.  In the face of many yahoo groups' files suddenly disappearing even starting years ago, and messages taking many hours to post or not post at all, or just disappearing, many yahoo groups members and owners have respond to suggestions to move to groups.io with "everything is fine, what do you expect from a free service, don't tell us what to do" etc. Hence my feeling that groups who have dug their heels in and refused to move shouldn't be complaining now. They had many chances to move and they resisted.

Not sure whether this applies to your group or not, but surely your group has experienced all the negative events that all the rest of yahoo groups have over the past few years.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

PurplePenny
 

The first I knew about it was yesterday evening (my time) when the notice appeared on my home page, it wasn't there the day before.  I set about transferring my group as soon as I knew.

Penny

On 17/10/2019 16:48, J_Catlady wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Victoria wrote:
I really do worry about Mark´s health.
He seriously needs to charge extra for the spate of rushed transfers; I wasn't kidding about that. He could use the money to hire some drones to do the transfers. (And the people doing the late transfers should be charged a penalty anyway. :)
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Does any new group coming to IO need to start out as a premium group?

 

Hi,

At least it is recommended that you start out as a premium group for the first month so you can directly add members and such (direct add isn’t possible with free groups; I recently took this route while transferring groups from Freelists to Groups.IO).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joan C
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:10 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: [beta] Does any new group coming to IO need to start out as a premium group?

 

thanks for answering this. I already have a group on IO but was told this by someone wanting to transfer. 
I went to the transfer page and it does say that any transfer needs to be to a premium group for the first yet and then can reduce to free.
when I transferred this was no a requirement. 
Thanks
Joan 

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