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moderated Re: New feature: hashtag footers #update

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:38 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've pushed a new feature, hashtag footers. Each hashtag can now have a footer. If a hashtag has a footer, then all emails tagged with that hashtag will have the footer inserted into the top of the message footer (for single messages), or right after the message body (for digest messages). Also, if composing a message using the New Topic page and you select a hashtag using the `Add Tags` dropdown that has a footer, the footer is displayed on the page.
 
This was requested by an enterprise group that wished to provide additional guidance for people responding to particular emails.
 
Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
Some observations so far:

  • The font size when entering the hashtag footer text seems smaller than that used in the hashtag name and description.
  • When composing a message online, the extra panel that appears with the hashtag footer text does not show the text in the order of the hashtags in the subject (it may not be an error but it feels wrong).
  • The hashtag footer text strings that appear in an email follow on from each other so you can't tell where the text from one hashtag ends and another starts.
  • There's no way of knowing which text relates to which hashtag (and it seems counter intuitive to have to add the name of the hashtag in the text to achieve that)

Regards
Andy


moderated New feature: hashtag footers #update

 

Hi All,

I've pushed a new feature, hashtag footers. Each hashtag can now have a footer. If a hashtag has a footer, then all emails tagged with that hashtag will have the footer inserted into the top of the message footer (for single messages), or right after the message body (for digest messages). Also, if composing a message using the New Topic page and you select a hashtag using the `Add Tags` dropdown that has a footer, the footer is displayed on the page.

This was requested by an enterprise group that wished to provide additional guidance for people responding to particular emails.

Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

 

Right, only one now, so actually an improvement.


On Apr 9, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 01:45 PM, David Bryant wrote:
Two extra mouse clicks to view the full list is no big deal.
Actually, it's only one now, just click Members next to the Filter button.  I suspect most will be wanting to filter anyway, so you can just change the filter options without even going to the full list.

Duane

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moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 01:45 PM, David Bryant wrote:
Two extra mouse clicks to view the full list is no big deal.
Actually, it's only one now, just click Members next to the Filter button.  I suspect most will be wanting to filter anyway, so you can just change the filter options without even going to the full list.

Duane


moderated Re: Database ordering and datetime field #suggestion

Chris Smith
 

Just wondered if there has been any thoughts on this? Any chance it might happen at some stage?

Thanks
Chris


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.
 
Please leave it as is. I like being notified about pending memberships whenever I view the membership list. Two extra mouse clicks to view the full list is no big deal.
 
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moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 06:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.
 
I like the way it currently works and would like it to stay that way.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 06:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.
I honestly can't see why it should; it's not a new feature and owners & moderators are almost certainly used to it being there.

Chris


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:43 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Mark -- After applying the member list filter, the legend at the bottom of the page says "-1 checked," and remains one off until I click "Uncheck all."

Oops. Fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.
I agree with your logic and would like to keep it this way.

Duane


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:12 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:10 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Found another little bug this morning.  Selecting "Bouncing" also automatically selects NC, but the NC members aren't included on the results page.  If you then go back into the filter box and don't change anything (untick NC), but do click Apply, it then includes NC results.

This has been fixed.
But seems to have created a different one.  After selecting Bouncing and Apply, the list shows them correctly.  The number at the upper right says 1-4 of 4 as it should.  Below the list, it says -1 selected.  This throws off the number displayed there (when selecting) by -1.  If I go ahead and send a bounce probe, the confirmation box matches the actual number selected.

In addition, if I use the box to select all, it also shows all the boxes in the filter drop down as checked if I open it.  If I close it and open it again, it only shows Bouncing.

Thanks,
Duane


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- After applying the member list filter, the legend at the bottom of the page says "-1 checked," and remains one off until I click "Uncheck all."

I don't know how this may affect any subsequent activity performed using the Actions menu.

FYI,
Bruce


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

 

Yes, please remove it! I don’t want to see pending members every time I view the members list. I only look at pending members when I’m going to act on them in some way, and that’s not very often, since I wait for their pending notice response to come in, which usually takes at least a few days anyway. I view (or need/want to view) the full members list an order of magnitude more often than pending.


On Apr 9, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:30 AM Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:23 PM, David Bryant wrote:
In my experience, that has always been the case. If I had a pending membership application, only the pending memberships showed up when I clicked "Members" on the left, and I had to select "Members" from the drop down list
Agreed; this "phenomenon" has always been the case, at least since I came on to Groups.io several years ago.

It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.

Thanks,
Mark 

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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #bug Directory contents #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:52 PM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
The experts in the GMF have suggested I raise this here as it could be a bug.
Duane previously noted that the middle entry in the first row seems to be higher than those on either side.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #bug Directory contents #bug

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 11:52 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
Any ideas anybody?
As I mentioned on GMF: "Looking closely at your image, it appears that the box for the second person (Alcock-Ferg...) is a tiny bit taller than the rest, so creating the blanks.  (This used to happen in the photos area.) "

Duane


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:30 AM Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:23 PM, David Bryant wrote:
In my experience, that has always been the case. If I had a pending membership application, only the pending memberships showed up when I clicked "Members" on the left, and I had to select "Members" from the drop down list
Agreed; this "phenomenon" has always been the case, at least since I came on to Groups.io several years ago.

It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.

Thanks,
Mark 


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

 

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 5:59 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 07:44 PM, coprosowner wrote:
One small bug maybe.  I selected 4 members who needed a bounce probe.  It shows the number 24 (lower left).
Checking on this, I also saw some strange numbers.  Page shows 30, select all box shows 52.  When I first started the test, selecting the first 8 gave a 13 at the bottom, but when I tried again later, it was correct.  Definitely some gremlins running loose.

This bug has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #bug Directory contents #bug

Andy
 

Hmm, I don't see that.  The two blank spaces are at the bottom (since my preference is to view 100 entries at once and 99 is a multiple of 3).

But frankly, I think that the Directory is a useless "feature".  (Does anyone else think it is useful?)

Andy


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:10 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Found another little bug this morning.  Selecting "Bouncing" also automatically selects NC, but the NC members aren't included on the results page.  If you then go back into the filter box and don't change anything (untick NC), but do click Apply, it then includes NC results.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated #bug Directory contents #bug

Peter Rawbone
 

Looking at the Directory (as an Owner) there is a space in the second row that seems odd.  The experts in the GMF have suggested I raise this here as it could be a bug.



Any ideas anybody?
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Peter

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