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Update the favicon #suggestion

Laurence Marks
 

The envelope icon appears to generated with blue lines and "transparent" instead of white for the fill. (Favicons support transparency.) The area outside the envelope should be transparent, but the area inside the envelope should be white. As currently designed, it's invisible with schemes with black or blue tabs. (Unfortunately, the default tabs in Windows 10 with Chrome browser, a popular combination, are a blue that's almost the same as the favicon blue, making it nearly invisible.)

This picture shows the problem and also shows how well white would work. See the Give.org, Google, Amazon, and ecobee tabs.


Larry


Polls table readability #suggestion

Drew
 

Referring to the "See Who Responded" table (sorted by Answer): For polls that have a lot of answers and a lot of respondents it is difficult to keep track of particular columns while scrolling to the bottom in order to read their Results footers.

It would be helpful if the Answers headers at the top could be repeated at the bottom of the columns above the Results; likewise the Results footers at the bottom of columns repeated at the top under the Answers headers.


Re: Email Address change #suggestion

 

Mark,

I just added a confirmation dialog when changing your email address.
It displays the new email address and requires that you click the Ok
button to proceed. Please check it out and if you think an additional
step is needed after that, please let me know.
I think the confirmation dialog should test the address. That is, send a confirmation message to the address and display the SMTP result - success or failure. I'd go further and keep the Yes button disabled until there is a success code.

The intent is to head off the confusion that occurs when the member makes a typo in the address.

There are some complications, of course. One is the round-trip time for the SMTP response. So perhaps there should be an activity indicator showing that Groups.io is testing the address. Maybe there should be a third button that the user can use to confirm the address despite the lack of response (maybe even in the face of a failure response).

I'm not exactly sure why a user would ever click the "confirm anyway" button. Perhaps they know the address isn't ready for use yet but will be, or perhaps they know the address engages in greylisting or other spam-control protocol that interferes with the test. Of course, to me that would be a red-flag but I'm not going to rule out the possibility that the user actually does know what they're doing.

And also there is the false-positive problem: it /has/ happened to me that a typo in a Direct Add address was a good address belonging to someone else entirely. One could go the further step of requiring that the user verify receipt of the test message. Perhaps using a confirmation code in that message to by typed into a box in this dialog. I'm not sure I want to force that level of functionality at this point, but it may not be an unreasonable requirement and would head off the typo that is someone else's address case.

Shal


Allow subscribers to email poll respondents #suggestion

Drew
 

Unless I have missed it, only owners (and poll authors?) can conveniently email poll respondents. It would be very useful if we had the ability to allow subscribers to do the same; i.e., any subscriber viewing the poll results would be able to email the respondents of a particular answer category. This would probably need to be a group option setting as well as an option setting for the individual polls set by the authors.


Re: Cannot change cover photo #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 04:40 PM, I wrote:
Did you remember to click on Set Cover Photo?
John C; I am baffled. I have had a look at your group Home Page and the photo in honour of a recently departed colleague is consistent with this post on your group timed at 1538 (UK time), while your query here on beta (for future reference the Group Managers Forum might have been a better place to start) was posted at 1619. (GMT again!)

On the face of it you did click on Set Cover Photo; at the moment the only thing I can think of if you couldn't see it yourself was that you were looking at a cached page that a browser refresh would have updated.

Clarification requested!

Chris


Re: Cannot change cover photo #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 04:19 PM, John C wrote:
...but doesn't update the displayed photo
Did you remember to click on Set Cover Photo?

Chris


Cannot change cover photo #bug

John C
 

I can't seem to be able to change the cover photo on my group: https://groups.io/g/o14/coverphoto

I have tried a jpeg and png - the size is 681x489. I am allowed to select the file to upload and it changes the displayed file name but doesn't update the displayed photo. I've tried on both Chrome and Safari. There are no console error messages shown under dev tools.

John


wrong navigation from past members list (goes back to members list) #bug

 

After doing something in a past member's record and saving, you're taken not back to the past members list but to the members list. So to go back into the record you have to manually navigate to the past members list again.
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Re: Bug in hashtags - Online only messages appear in summaries and save and send to group sends to group - even though tags set as "online only" #bug

Duane
 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 04:19 PM, Mo wrote:
I'll lock the post, so only I can edit.
Members can only edit their own posts (mods/owners can edit any post), so this may not be needed.

Duane


Re: Bug in hashtags - Online only messages appear in summaries and save and send to group sends to group - even though tags set as "online only" #bug

Mo
 

Thank you Bruce.

Your thoughts solved my dilemma. I'll lock the post, so only I can edit.  Prevent mishaps. I know only click the other button from now on.

People can private message me changes instead.

Regards
Mo

On Thursday, 26 November 2020, 20:21:36 GMT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:07 AM, Mo wrote:
I have created a tag that is for "online only"
Mo -- By this, I assume you mean that you have the "No Email" checkbox checked on this hashtag.

I created a confidential post that needed to stay online only, its needed to stay inside the group.  I was editing and saving loads.  The last save I did was "save and send to group" as I was to lazy to click "Save and not send to group".  As the tags are configure to not email - I expected it to not be sent.  But it did and now its appearing in daily summeries on further edits.
If an Owner/Moderator chooses to override the hashtag setting by clicking "Save and Send to Group" -- even by accident -- I don't consider that to be a bug.

Is that a "known" behaviour that I have interupted wrong? 
It was certainly not known to me!

Or something owners can do.  Just worried users could edit - then send post outside which are marked online only.
From my cursory testing, it does seem that Members are also able to circumvent a hashtag's "No Email" setting by editing their own message. In fact, "Save and Send to Group" is the only option available.

So this does seem like a bug, but I don't know how best to squash it. For now I'll just throw out idea of prohibiting Members from editing messages associated with a No Email hashtag.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Bug in hashtags - Online only messages appear in summaries and save and send to group sends to group - even though tags set as "online only" #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:07 AM, Mo wrote:
I have created a tag that is for "online only"
Mo -- By this, I assume you mean that you have the "No Email" checkbox checked on this hashtag.

I created a confidential post that needed to stay online only, its needed to stay inside the group.  I was editing and saving loads.  The last save I did was "save and send to group" as I was to lazy to click "Save and not send to group".  As the tags are configure to not email - I expected it to not be sent.  But it did and now its appearing in daily summeries on further edits.
If an Owner/Moderator chooses to override the hashtag setting by clicking "Save and Send to Group" -- even by accident -- I don't consider that to be a bug.

Is that a "known" behaviour that I have interupted wrong? 
It was certainly not known to me!

Or something owners can do.  Just worried users could edit - then send post outside which are marked online only.
From my cursory testing, it does seem that Members are also able to circumvent a hashtag's "No Email" setting by editing their own message. In fact, "Save and Send to Group" is the only option available.

So this does seem like a bug, but I don't know how best to squash it. For now I'll just throw out idea of prohibiting Members from editing messages associated with a No Email hashtag.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: "Find or Create a Group" page does not do what it looks like it was designed to do #bug

Marv Waschke
 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 04:15 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've revamped the groups search page a bit
It now works as I would expect it to. Excellent. Appreciate it.

However, I think you could improve the interaction with the row of letters across the bottom. That was a nice feature when the group count was in the 100s but not so useful when result sets are in the thousands.

I suggest treating selecting a letter as an additional filter on the initial letter of the group name "anded" with whatever filters have been applied to the display result set. Also retain the sort order of the set prior to "anding" in the initial letter filter. You could also add 0-9 buttons for group names that start with a numeral.
Best, Marv


Bug in hashtags - Online only messages appear in summaries and save and send to group sends to group - even though tags set as "online only" #bug

Mo
 

Hi,

I have created a tag that is for "online only"

I created a confidential post that needed to stay online only, its needed to stay inside the group.  I was editing and saving loads.  The last save I did was "save and send to group" as I was to lazy to click "Save and not send to group".  As the tags are configure to not email - I expected it to not be sent.  But it did and now its appearing in daily summeries on further edits.

Is that a "known" behaviour that I have interupted wrong?  Or something owners can do.  Just worried users could edit - then send post outside which are marked online only.

Regards
Mo


Re: Calendar shows different times for a meeting #bug

Kenny Paul
 

First, when hovering over an event in the calendar view, we display the time in the user's local timezone. But we also displayed the event's (possibly different) timezone. That's confusing and doesn't make much sense. I've removed the timezone display in the hover.
Thanks Mark! That was also on my, "I need to report this" list. :-)
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Kenny Paul, Technical Program Manager for ONAP
The Linux Foundation
Pacific Time Zone


Re: Directory page not displaying properly #bug

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 6:48 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
The Directory page is no longer displaying the blue menu bar at the top of the page. Looks like a missing server-side #include.


Whoops. Should be fixed now. I'm making a lot of internal changes for the app, and in this case, I indeed missed a server-side include.

Thanks,
Mark 


Directory page not displaying properly #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

The Directory page is no longer displaying the blue menu bar at the top of the page. Looks like a missing server-side #include.

In addition, those using infinite scroll are reporting an inability to navigate beyond the first screen. 

FYI,
Bruce


#suggestion Group calendar shows all events from subgroups you are a member of #suggestion

Alwin
 

Like https://groups.io/calendar but filtered to only the subgroups on https://glaarg-vec.groups.io/g/glaarg-vec/calendar for example.


Re: Calendar shows different times for a meeting #bug

Mdivine
 

Mark

it is when viewing my feed page. After clicking on Groups.io logo upper left. Page that shows my groups.

“upcoming events”  see pic. Shows all as 0800.

When I click on my calendar shows correct time on the actual calendar. See pic






Re: "Find or Create a Group" page does not do what it looks like it was designed to do #bug

 

It’s not a matter of negating terms (which would be more complicated than what I’m suggesting anyway). Sometimes the search term is included in the group description to say “ we do not discuss [search term] in this group.” I gave several examples in those prior threads. And sometimes it’s thrown in at the end of a long laundry list of possible but rarely discussed topics (I gave examples of those, too). Sometimes, you just want to see groups about golf. Or whatever. There’s no problem with this feature as long as it’s just an option at the time of the search.

On Nov 25, 2020, at 6:20 AM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I’m suggesting it as an option at the time of the search. That’s all. Because in some cases, including the description is much too wide a tent.
On Nov 25, 2020, at 5:23 AM, Drew <@af2z> wrote:

I think a group name search is too discriminatory. Many groups have names that don't describe topics vital to their interest but who would otherwise be fully relevant to the search.

Filtering of non-wanted words can be handled now with negated search terms. Compare the search results for:

cars american

and

cars -american

Of course, this would negatively (no pun) impact those groups who use the "we do not discuss X" type of language. They could be the victim of the double negative (i.e., "no american" in the description and "-american" in the search). But that has to be a pretty tiny subset of groups.



Drew



On 11/24/20 22:44, J_Catlady wrote:
It remains to be seen how and whether, within the filter, to prioritize or only include groups with the search term in the group name as opposed to just the group description. I suggest a checkbox option along the lines of "include only groups with the search term in the group name" for people who only want that. Otherwise you also get groups whose descriptions say things like "we do NOT discuss [search term] here so if you're interested in that, go elsewhere" and groups who deal only very tangentially with the term.
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J
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu




--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


Re: "Find or Create a Group" page does not do what it looks like it was designed to do #bug

 

I’m suggesting it as an option at the time of the search. That’s all. Because in some cases, including the description is much too wide a tent.

On Nov 25, 2020, at 5:23 AM, Drew <@af2z> wrote:

I think a group name search is too discriminatory. Many groups have names that don't describe topics vital to their interest but who would otherwise be fully relevant to the search.

Filtering of non-wanted words can be handled now with negated search terms. Compare the search results for:

cars american

and

cars -american

Of course, this would negatively (no pun) impact those groups who use the "we do not discuss X" type of language. They could be the victim of the double negative (i.e., "no american" in the description and "-american" in the search). But that has to be a pretty tiny subset of groups.



Drew



On 11/24/20 22:44, J_Catlady wrote:
It remains to be seen how and whether, within the filter, to prioritize or only include groups with the search term in the group name as opposed to just the group description. I suggest a checkbox option along the lines of "include only groups with the search term in the group name" for people who only want that. Otherwise you also get groups whose descriptions say things like "we do NOT discuss [search term] here so if you're interested in that, go elsewhere" and groups who deal only very tangentially with the term.
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J
/Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones./
/My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu