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locked Re: categorisation

Ant No
 

Drew

It's not either or. You can do both. They're not exactly official cats. They reflect what's actually there in the 7000 groups I looked through.

To you the exact kind of radio group you are is important and you can use keywords and tags to define this. To anyone uninterested in radio it's just one big lump with a massive following that buries niche interest groups

Being able to exclude that entire category would be very helpful. The cats are broad on purpose  and based purely  on large group numbers.

A search presumes you have a good idea of what you want to find and that the keywords or tags you use match the ones the group owner used.

Cats and searches are like catapillers and butterflies. They do different things well.


moderated Message search is behind

 

Hi All,

Indexing messages is about 17 hours behind at this point. That means that messages sent last night around midnight Pacific Time are only just now becoming searchable. This affects the per-month display on the group home pages. It may also be responsible for the Emailed Photos sort issue talked about here today.

I made one change that will help, but by the nature of it, won't start helping until probably tomorrow morning. I expect to do further optimizations as well to try to get it under control. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Theft of Yahoo! Group mailing lists ?

 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:19 PM perlloaderplease via Groups.Io <perlloaderplease=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Doesn't your Yahoo Transfer process allow for the theft of private group email lists by someone creating a 'ghost' group and doing a transfer request at the same time that the real group owner is doing a transfer request ?

You can only create one transfer request per Yahoo Group.


Mark 


moderated Theft of Yahoo! Group mailing lists ?

YSWT
 


Doesn't your Yahoo Transfer process allow for the theft of private group email lists by someone creating a 'ghost' group and doing a transfer request at the same time that the real group owner is doing a transfer request ?

I.E.

My group makes transfer@groups.io a moderator 

and someone ELSE sends a transfer request OF OUR GROUP...

won't you be sending our mailing list to their groups.io group....


moderated Re: Emailed Photos Bug: When I click a thumbnail the wrong photo appears #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 05:51 PM, Eric di Domenico wrote:
This seems to only happen when sorting by Name
You're right...that is peculiar.

What I'm seeing is that only "sort by posted" actually works for the Emailed Photos folder. If you sort by anything else, the thumbnails are moved around but the underlying links are not. 

Seems to work fine in other albums.

Bruce


moderated Re: Emailed Photos Bug: When I click a thumbnail the wrong photo appears #bug

Eric di Domenico
 

This seems to only happen when sorting by Name


moderated Re: Emailed Photos Bug: When I click a thumbnail the wrong photo appears #bug

Eric di Domenico
 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 01:54 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Your browser is caching the thumbnail page.
That's not it. I just cleared my cache, also tried with a different browser with a clean cache (that I use for development).

no photos have been deleted, this is the "Emailed Photos" album. It's just broken.


moderated Suggestion for Importing Groups

Janis
 

Mark,

I am not a tech person, but it seems this might be a good idea to move groups faster and in a way that is more fair. Small groups are having to wait too long because of monster groups taking so.long to import.

My suggestion is to separate the queues into 3 categories small groups, medium groups (over 500 members) and large monster groups. Separate machines and staff can be dedicated to each.category. 

If possible have some of your machines dedicated  to importing just the small groups. They will moved faster and will soon be off the bucket list because of their smaller size. Then you can concentrate those freed up machines on moving the medium sized groups.

This should speed up the process. At least it would be more fair! Waiting on.monster groups to be imported is not fair because of the  extra time they are monopolizing for imports.  


Those who  have a monster group, you may not like this, but it will also move them forward in their queue. And get them closer to the finish.line.

Small active groups that are normally very active every day are hurting because we are stymied and cannot function until the transfer is complete. It matters more with smaller groups. Our membership is of a different make up, more hands on and group oriented.. The nature of the groups necessitates staying actively involved.

Thanks for considering the idea. I do not know if you can do this, but I had to ask.😄

Janis


moderated Accepting invite from Yahoo for transfer (second time)

M K Ramadoss
 

We had sent an invite from Yahoo for transfer@groups.io
Apparently it was accepted and was made a member of the yahoo group
Then we made it as a moderator
Now it is no longer a member of Yahoo
I sent a NEW invite from Yahoo and waiting for acceptance from GIO
This is for transfer of taxproexchange@yahoogroups to TaxproXchange@groups.io
This transfer was started on Oct 18th/20th

Need help


moderated Re: Emailed Photos Bug: When I click a thumbnail the wrong photo appears #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM, Eric di Domenico wrote:
When I click a thumbnail the wrong photo appears, see attached gif
Your browser is caching the thumbnail page. When deleting photos you have to refresh this page (ctrl-F6) between deletions.

Bruce


moderated Re: Shal's fifteen minutes...

Dave Sergeant
 

Still getting server errors on the direct link but found the full
article in Google's cache. Interesting read, I think there are a few
more of the regulars here who get a mention (including Mark!).

Dave

On 29 Oct 2019 at 15:14, Dave Sergeant wrote:

I will post a copy or summary later (I subscribe). Getting constant
server errors from their site at the moment.

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Shal's fifteen minutes...

Ken Schweizer
 

A worthy read, thanks Shal!

Ken

"Simply put, Socialism rewards sloth and penalizes hard work, while Capitalism rewards hard work and penalizes sloth." C. Bradley Thompson

-----Original Message-----
From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Susan
B
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:13 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Shal's fifteen minutes...

Helen
I just followed your link and clicked the Register button, registered and read the
whole article. This is not a free trial. You can read 1 article a week free.

Check it out! It’s a good article but too long to summarize well.

Susan B



On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Tanya's Feline CKD <helen@felineckd.com>
wrote:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/10/28/internet-activists-
fighting-save-yahoo-groups/

You need a subscription to read the full article, perhaps if someone has
access, they could let us know a bit more about what Shal says (though at least I
now know how old he is).

HTH

Helen




moderated Re: Shal's fifteen minutes...

 

Helen
I just followed your link and clicked the Register button, registered and read the whole article. This is not a free trial. You can read 1 article a week free.

Check it out! It’s a good article but too long to summarize well.

Susan B

On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Tanya's Feline CKD <helen@felineckd.com> wrote:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/10/28/internet-activists-fighting-save-yahoo-groups/

You need a subscription to read the full article, perhaps if someone has access, they could let us know a bit more about what Shal says (though at least I now know how old he is).

HTH

Helen



moderated Re: Acceptance hung up - Possible systemic problem

M K Ramadoss
 

On yahoo transfer@groups.io as a member is not seen. Disappeared.
Now I have sent an invite from yahoo for transfer@groups.io
As soon as it is accepted by GIO I can make it as a moderator.

Sorry for all the trouble


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 11:06 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:02 AM M K Ramadoss <mkr777@...> wrote:
Here is the situation: Is there a systemic problem?

I haven't heard any other issues of this. It does look like we joined your group but did not trigger the next step. I've done that. 

I will add something to our internal dashboard to track this.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: categorisation

Bob Buxton
 

In addition to @drew's excellent suggestion for a keyword section in the group description I would also like to propose that group owners include a Hashtag section in their group descriptions with as many (or few) tags as they feel are helpful in identifying the groups areas of interest (e.g. #politics #UK #BRexit)

This would be immediately usable via the find group search but, in time, I would hope that groups.io would add a find group by hashtag function similar to the find message by #hashtags function that we already have within groups and show how many groups there are for each tag and allow filtering of the group list as tags are selected.

I hope this would address the OP's aims, be more flexible and be consistent with the use of hashtags for categorization across the web
--
Bob


moderated Re: Acceptance hung up - Possible systemic problem

 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:02 AM M K Ramadoss <mkr777@...> wrote:
Here is the situation: Is there a systemic problem?

I haven't heard any other issues of this. It does look like we joined your group but did not trigger the next step. I've done that. 

I will add something to our internal dashboard to track this.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Acceptance hung up - Possible systemic problem

M K Ramadoss
 

Here is the situation: Is there a systemic problem?

===

Transfer fees paid and request made on October 18 and invite was sent from yahoo and transfer@groups.io was made a owner at yahoo.
Invite has been received by GIO on Oct 18
But invite is yet to be accepted.
 
Then today you wrote:  
Here is the message on GIO
We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.

When did you see this message first? What is the status now?
 
I saw this on 19th Oct.
 
The status today is:
 
We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.

Mark (Groups.io) wrote in Beta:
"Transfers are queued up when you first set it up and processed in that order until you get to Step 5. 
At that point they are re-ordered based on when the transfer go-ahead is given and uploaded to groups.io in that order (unless you pay $200 for priority service)."


moderated Re: 2 questions about the Yahoo Group transfer

Harm Selling <h.selling@...>
 

Assuming a part of the "no mail" members are bouncing without knowing it, I've decided to approach all these members by e-mail, outside of the group.

It appears that:

 - a part of these members appears to bounce. I remove these bouncing members from the group.

 - Some of these members reply: "I'd like to stay in the group and want to receive again the group mail". I change the status of these members in "single mail".

 - Most of the members are not responding at all. I'll wait two weeks and, if still no response, remove them.


I expect, by doing this, to clean up the group from 875 (partly inactive) members to at most 400 (active) members.

My Yahoo group had 1275 members, but 400 members were already bouncing in the Yahoo period and were not imported by Groups.io.

 

It takes a lot of time, but it's useful to clean up the group.


---

Harm Selling



----- Original Message -----
From: Juulz [mailto:julesmcn@...]
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 07:44:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [beta] 2 questions about the Yahoo Group transfer

Our Yahoo group has never allowed the "No Mail" option and I always change anyone on it to "Special Notices" before I send one. I really like the groups.io setting that disallows it automatically!


moderated Re: Shal's fifteen minutes...

Dave Sergeant
 

I will post a copy or summary later (I subscribe). Getting constant
server errors from their site at the moment.

Dave

On 29 Oct 2019 at 7:53, Tanya's Feline CKD wrote:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/10/28/internet-activists-fig
hting-save-yahoo-groups/

You need a subscription to read the full article, perhaps if someone has
access, they could let us know a bit more about what Shal says (though
at least I now know how old he is).

HTH

Helen

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Shal's fifteen minutes...

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/10/28/internet-activists-fighting-save-yahoo-groups/

You need a subscription to read the full article, perhaps if someone has access, they could let us know a bit more about what Shal says (though at least I now know how old he is).

HTH

Helen

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