Changes to the site this week:

• API: Added /searchwikis endpoint.
• API: Changed search_result object to message_search_result.
• API: Added /getbounceinfo and `/getdeliveryinfo' endpoints.
• API: Added /getmessagehistory endpoint.
• API: Added optional type parameter to the getmembernotices endpoint.
• API: Added muted and followed fields to hashtag object.
• API: Added /getsinglefeed endpoint.
• CHANGE: When switching from monthly to yearly billing, charge the card immediately instead of waiting until the next invoice date.
• BUGFIX: Updated the list of timezones with their current UDT offsets.
• BUGFIX: Fixed an issue where going to an open chat would just return you to the available chats page.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark

Changes to the site this week:

• INTERNAL: Several database optimizations to speed group imports.
• INTERNAL: Completed webhook server.
• API: Added /getmemberdirectory endpoint.
• API: Added sticky_wiki_page_id field to the group object.
• API: Added new id parameter to /getwikiset endpoint.
• API: Added new Types section to the docs. Currently only lists the action enum.
• API: Changed all view_* permissions to be *_visible, to be consistent.
• API: Added msg_num, subject, extra, extra2, extra_id fields to webhook_event objects.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark

Appreciate your tremendous efforts to improve the process.  My group went from #80 to done.  I know it's been a big effort and new costs with new servers to host and to process transfers.  

Out of curiosity are you running your own server farm or leasing space to host the groups?  

Melissa

We are at 67 and 68 in the queue at 10 am CST  so we have moved forward  over 100 groups since yesterday afternoon.  We now expect to be transferred today or tonight. Very exciting!
It has been slightly slower the past 30 minutes to 1 hour, maybe a huge group being imported now?

Many Thanks for speeding up the process and getting us to the finish line earlier than we had expected before!

Janis

Hi All,

I'm temporarily setting Beta to moderated until, probably, mid-December. I have no bandwidth to consider new features right now as I focus on transferring over all the groups, keeping the site up and working with the folks in Spain on the app. So any messages posted asking about or discussing new features during that time will be wasted on me, and will be rejected.

Thanks for your understanding.

Mark

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:06 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 02:04 PM, Victoria wrote:

We had a link-collection that wasn´t transformed correctly to GIO

But that is a different issue. 
 
No, it isn´t. It´s exactly what describes the difference in funcionality between links and databases. Subfolders in the Yahoo Group link collection cannot be transferred. All the other yahoo groups I am or was a member of had the same problem and lost hundreds of links this way.

But apart from that, as I wrote in my last message it is exactly that functionality and that easy handling of links that Dave, Susan and Janis mentioned which is being talked about here. And moving it to wiki doesn´t change this at all. So why not simply accept that different people can have different needs?

Victoria

 

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 02:05 PM, Janis wrote:

I never had any problem at all with using Yahoo and have used it for 20 years

You've dodged a lot of bullets. I don't know the statistics, but many if not most groups had their files start disappearing, messages being delayed for hours and in some cases not post at all, members being completely unable to unsub because the unsubscribe feature was broken, etc.
 
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Thanks, Mark!  We have moved over 150 places in the past two days and still moving! Our positions just moved to 198 and 199 a few minutes ago. I was expecting tge tranfer to take another 10 days. Now I have alerted my group members to expect their Welcome message in 2 or 3 days, or the weekend at tge latest!  We are thrilled with the faster speed!  😄😄😄😄

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 02:04 PM, Victoria wrote:

We had a link-collection that wasn´t transformed correctly to GIO

But that is a different issue. 
 
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My groups made goodnuse of the easily usable links page at Yahoo Groups.  I would definitely appreciate havingbthe same functionality exactly thevway it was set up at Yahoo 

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 01:41 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

you can make that Wiki Page a Sticky Wiki page

Exactly right. There is actually *more* functionality here, not less, for posting links (and other material). A dedicated Links page is really just an anachronism.
 
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I agree with Dave. We had a link-collection that wasn´t transformed correctly to GIO because it was designed like a medical textbook with folders and subfolders for every medical issue, corresponding to the structure we had in our files.

Take the example of a main folder for eye disorders, subfolders for glaucoma, cataract and so on... Then in each subfolder you could find links concerning these special issues and their description. By clicking on the description the respective link opended. Same with all the other dozens of medical issues like respiratory diseases, heart, liver, bladder, and, and, and...You just went there and a collection of links of the latest research results were available.

Moving to GIO only the folders werde transferred, the subfolders with their actual content were not transferred, and we had many dozens of them and hundreds of links to sites with fotos and very clear descriptions of the respective diseases. It all got lost. 

 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 04:29 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

Users can then add new "links" with no more effort than than clicking on "Add row" and pasting a link and optionally typing in some descriptive info and clicking on "Save Row".

That´s not what we need and according to my above description it´s far less comfortable. In fact, the yahoo version was a very user friendly application, very easy to handle and very clearly aranged. It´s the one feature I am really missing, for the handling of databases seems much more complicated to me, and folders/subfolders, quickly installed, were such a work simplification.

            In fact, if you have a group migrated from Yahoo, there will already by a links database so all the Owner/Moderator has to do is to allow  
            normal subscribers to add links if desired.

We blocked members from uploading links because this didn´t match our original needs, so that doesn´t change anything.

I understand Dave´s submissions very well, and maybe there is a way to get close to that easy handling of links some day, although I see that at the moment of more important issues all these feature requests have to stand back.

Victoria

Rude?
Sorry that you misunderstood that I was telling you how, on gio, one can take advantage of features to feature speciially important parts of the group's information that otherwise requires change of context.
GIO provides lots of handy features that should have been implemented on Yahoo.

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Bob Bellizzi

Funny because I was going to ask you the same thing. You make it personal. 

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Why are you so rude?

And just think about using a WIKI page for links.
If they're so important you can make that Wiki Page a Sticky Wiki page at the top of your message page so members ca n easily access the important StickyWiki Page promptly without losing context
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:56 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

in a file, in a wiki page, in a sticky message, wherever.

or even, as others have pointed out, in a database, if that's what gets you off.
 
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Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:52 PM, Susan B wrote:

links are extremely important to our group

Great! Then understand that groups.io has not taken links away from your group. You are as free to post them as you ever were - in a file, in a wiki page, in a sticky message, wherever. You can call the file "Important links." You can call the wiki page "Important links to xyz" where zyz is the relevant topic. Etc. In no way does groups.io limit your ability to post links simply by not having a separate page called "Links." 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.