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moderated Re: Wiki link color is hard to see - usability #bug

Duane
 

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 01:45 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:
The fact that browser trick sighted people did, above, means the contrast on the website needs to be fixed.
Not for me.  I prefer the existing colors.  I believe Chris did too after he realized the 'trick' broke some other things.

Duane


moderated Re: NC Status Clarification #bug

 

I’ve always assumed that “logged in” refers to them being logged on to the internet.??


On May 9, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

I have hashtagged this as a bug but if I'm honest I'm not sure, hence the request for clarification.

Quite a few of those to apply to the group I co - own are shown on the email notification as being "Logged in", which suggests that they are already Account holders when they apply to join. At the same time they are (sometimes) flagged up on the web UI as NC.

The last "definitive" explanation I can recall was here some 2 years ago, but on the face of it their status as "Logged in" (as per the email) is contradicted by the NC flag.

Is this a glitch in the system or is my understanding actually a misunderstanding? The main reason for asking is that very often getting applicants to respond to the Confirmation Email from groups.io is a tedious process and even when an advisory email is sent just before another confirmation request the NC flag seems to remain resolutely in place.

Chris

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moderated NC Status Clarification #bug

Chris Jones
 

I have hashtagged this as a bug but if I'm honest I'm not sure, hence the request for clarification.

Quite a few of those to apply to the group I co - own are shown on the email notification as being "Logged in", which suggests that they are already Account holders when they apply to join. At the same time they are (sometimes) flagged up on the web UI as NC.

The last "definitive" explanation I can recall was here some 2 years ago, but on the face of it their status as "Logged in" (as per the email) is contradicted by the NC flag.

Is this a glitch in the system or is my understanding actually a misunderstanding? The main reason for asking is that very often getting applicants to respond to the Confirmation Email from groups.io is a tedious process and even when an advisory email is sent just before another confirmation request the NC flag seems to remain resolutely in place.

Chris


moderated Re: Calendar Reminder #bug

Bob Bellizzi
 

I was aware of the GMF conversation but so what?
The problem persisted after that which indicated it's a bug

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Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Wiki link color is hard to see - usability #bug

 

The fact that browser trick sighted people did, above, means the contrast on the website needs to be fixed.

From WCAG...

Use a contrast ratio of 3:1 with surrounding text and providing additional visual cues on focus for links or controls where color alone is used to identify them.

It always confuses me why sighted people don't want to make changes that would benefit them, too. I mean, what if your monitor is malfunctioning and the poor contrast keeps you from using a site because of your monitor?

At some point, the whole contrast should be looked at. Create a ticket by emailing support@groups.io about the wiki links, for now.


moderated Re: Wiki link color is hard to see - usability #bug

Duane
 

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 12:33 PM, Jason Diceman wrote:
Any news on this simple little CSS fix?
As far as I can see, no one has determined that it's simple.  One little change can lead to other problems, as Chris noted when he tried the FF trick, so I'd want to be absolutely sure everything else still 'works' properly before making a change.

Duane


moderated Re: Wiki link color is hard to see - usability #bug

Jason Diceman
 

Any news on this simple little CSS fix? 


moderated Duplicate digest numbers #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I have one of my accounts on my main group set to receive a full digest. The digests for 6-May and 7-May were both numbered 375 but contained different messages. All other digest numbers have been incremented by 1 in the past.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Calendar Reminder #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:05 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
My calendar entries for meetings seem to be generating Reminders when I have none set.
There was a recent discussion on GMF about ghost reminders and I reported an incident like this last year.

Andy


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • CHANGE: Allow background and mso-highlight CSS styles in messages.
  • CHANGE: Various icon changes for more consistency.
  • CHANGE: Updated the Members Manual with changes on Wiki page URLs.
  • NEW: When a person is banned from Groups.io, we now log that in all groups they were a member of, and we remove all subscription data instead of just hiding it, which should keep sub counts correct.
  • BUGFIX: The sending of a new confirmation email by a moderator using the 'Send Confirmation Email' button was not logged properly in the email delivery section.
  • NEW: Logging to the activity log when we send the group guidelines out and when we send monthly reminder messages out.
  • INTERNAL: Optimized a database call when generating digests.
  • BUGFIX: Don't include links to profiles of banned members when viewing messages.
  • CHANGE: When visiting a manual in the help center, display the table of contents.
  • CHANGE: Wiki pages now use the wiki page ID instead of the title (with exceptions for _Sidebar/_Footer) to prevent link breakage when titles change.
  • INTERNAL: A lot of work to enable distributed tracing of the internal systems.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Calendar Reminder #bug

 

Hi Bob,

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 2:05 PM Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:
My calendar entries for meetings seem to be generating Reminders when I have none set.
I have 3 repeating calendar events for meetings each of which occur once every odd month on the first, second and third Saturdays respectively.
The Calendar entry has a very clear No Reminders Set but we are still getting reminders one day to one week in advance of the meeting.
The original entry had reminders set up but with covid-19, we eliminated the meetings and simply added "Cancelled" to the title and removed all reminders.
For Mark's use, they are messages 166765 and 166766 in the Restricted, premium group FuchsFriends

I'm not sure what happened, but I don't think you should get any more reminders for those events. Please contact me off-list if you do.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Calendar Reminder #bug

Bob Bellizzi
 

My calendar entries for meetings seem to be generating Reminders when I have none set.
I have 3 repeating calendar events for meetings each of which occur once every odd month on the first, second and third Saturdays respectively.
The Calendar entry has a very clear No Reminders Set but we are still getting reminders one day to one week in advance of the meeting.
The original entry had reminders set up but with covid-19, we eliminated the meetings and simply added "Cancelled" to the title and removed all reminders.
For Mark's use, they are messages 166765 and 166766 in the Restricted, premium group FuchsFriends
  • Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Welcome message delivered to NC members #bug

 

The plot thickens. There's yet another anomaly: In my basic group, I have an option available to "resend confirmation message" to an NC member. But in my premium group, which has acquired an NC member as of this morning, the only option available with respect to confirmation is "confirm" the member. The NC member has not yet responded to the pending email so he has not been approved (if and when he's approved, he would be confirmed automatically). Although I have the option to confirm him right now, I don't want to do that yet because I don't know yet whether he's real. I simply want the confirmation email to be resent at this point.

But I have no option to resend the confirmation email. Why not? Could this action be added for premium groups, since it's available even in basic groups? Of course he would be confirmed automatically if and when he is approved, but I don't want to wait for that and would like it to be sent now.

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moderated Re: disabled account #suggestion

 

Hi All,

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:00 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
maybe "Banned by system" would be a better process.
This could also be a category in the member dropdown.
 
There is a new 'Banned by system' activity log entry (under moderators), that will be used to log any disabling in the future. Also, when someone is banned from the service, their subscriptions will be removed, instead of hidden, which should keep subscriber counts normal. Also, I've gone through and fixed all subscriber counts affected by previous bannings.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Reporting a pending subscriber #misc

Michael Pavan
 

On May 5, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

For those of you with restricted groups, if I added a feature where you could report someone who had applied to your group that you thought was a spammer, would you use that feature?
Yes, I would use it.

It should only be available to Owner and/or Moderators,
perhaps only those Moderators with "Approve Pending Messages", "Approve Pending Members", and/or "Ban Members", and perhaps "Remove Members" privileges.

It would filter up to something system wide.
A register of how recently reported, how many reports or groups reporting and over what time span.

Also number of groups it is a member of and for how long - this might help evaluate how seriously to regard these reports of applicants who would be spammers.


Are there other tools I could provide to help weed these jerks out?

(fully acknowledging that this would only be one signal in evaluating if someone was a spammer).


moderated Re: Split topic action doesn't update number of Topics on group's home page #bug

 

Here's another one. I split it twice!

  • 1 Member
  • -2 Topics
  • Started on 06/24/18
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moderated Re: Split topic action doesn't update number of Topics on group's home page #bug

 

Pretty funny! :-)
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Split topic action doesn't update number of Topics on group's home page #bug

Gilbert Coville
 



-1 Topics. Pretty cool, eh?

To reproduce:

Start with empty group or subgroup: 0 messages, 0 topics
New topic-> Make subject “Subject1" and body “body1", send
Home page shows 1 topic
View the message, then hit reply, Leave subject as “Re: Subject1”, set body to “body2”, hit reply-to-group
Home page still shows 1 topic
Go to topics view, select the only topic “Subject1”, sort ascending so that the first message is “body1” and the second message is “body2”.
For the body2 message, choose More->split, enter “Subject2" in the Split Topic box, hit “Split Topic” button
Home page still shows 1 topic!
Go to topics view, delete one of the topics.
Home page shows 0 topics.
Go to topics view, delete the other topic.
Home page shows -1 topics.

Gilbert




moderated Re: Filter activity-log display according to moderator permissions #suggestion

 

A companion to this would be to display only the moderator notification options that correspond to a moderator's permissions. Currently (as previously discussed and rehashed here), all moderators can pick and choose which notifications they receive, regardless of their permissions. Going along with filtering the activity log according to permissions would be filtering the options displayed for each moderator's notifications. "notify when there's a pending message requiring approval" would be a notification option only if the moderator has message-approval permission, "notify when a member joins or leaves the group" would be an option only if the moderator has member-directory and/or membership approval permission, etc.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Filter activity-log display according to moderator permissions #suggestion

 

The suggestion is that only moderators with the corresponding permissions should see activity log entries. For example, if a moderator does not have invite permission, I don't want them seeing a log entry that another moderator invited someone; if a moderator does not have edit-archive or approve pending messages permission, I don't want them seeing the approval, rejection, or deletion of a pending message by another moderator; the same with approval or rejection of a pending member if they don't have that permission; etc.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

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