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moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 08:27 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

All email notifications worked as expected, both "personal" and Group.
I think my terminology could have been better to start with.

I have 3 accounts in my test group (Owner, Mod & Member). I uploaded a folder and files from my Owner account. A moderator notification email was received by my Moderator account listing the files that had been uploaded (all good). No moderator notification email was received at my Owner account because notifications to the person performing the action are now suppressed (all good).  No message was generated in the archive with a #file-notice hashtag so nothing could be sent to my member account even though I had the Notify Member checkbox ticked (#bug).

Regards,
Andy





moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
I just uploaded a folder containing a few files to my test subgroup. I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.
I have just deleted a previous test folder and added a new "ditto", and separately added a file to the latter.

All email notifications worked as expected, both "personal" and Group.

Different test group, of course...

Chris


moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.
Let me clarify that, there was no message sent to the group with a #file-notice hashtag.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I just uploaded a folder containing a few files to my test subgroup. I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 08:08 PM, Nina E wrote:
Andy and Duane: Have you seen the updated documentation of the Group Guidelines notice and the #guidelines-notice hashtag? If that info is unclear, please let me know.
Ah, the 4th checkbox only appears when the 3rd one is checked!  Hmm!   This is a different approach to the First Message Also checkbox on a member's subscription page where the checkbox is visible but not available until Following Only is selected. At least you can see that an option is possible that way but on the Guidelines Notice you can't.  Consistency?

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Nina E
 

>> Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".

> The 4th checkbox?

You need to select the “Send monthly to group” checkbox first, then the “Send monthly as special” checkbox appears. It’s documented. :-)

 

- Nina


moderated Re: Missing reminders #bug

Don Pottenger
 

Turns out that the bug is not only not being able to add a reminder to an existing event but also you can't remove a reminder from an event either. Looks like the only way to workaround any desired change in either adding or deleting a reminder is to delete the whole event and create it again with or without the reminder.

This is very unfortunate as all aspects of the event - description, contact person info, etc. need to be reentered when you recreate the "new"/old event.


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 08:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On the 1st of the month,
Thanks for confirming the date, it was as I suspected.

the process that sends out guidelines and monthly reminder emails first sets the special field of the #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags to be the same setting as the `send monthly as special` setting on the appropriate member notice.

OK - so it goes the opposite direction to the way I thought it went from reading the changelog.

Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 07:44 PM, Duane wrote:
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".
The 4th checkbox?



Please point that out to me.

Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Nina E
 


The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".  I'm a bit confused as well, because it's possible to not have that checked, but still set the hashtag #guidelines-notice to Special.  Maybe that's what this sync does, but I hope Mark will clarify it.

Andy and Duane: Have you seen the updated documentation of the Group Guidelines notice and the #guidelines-notice hashtag? If that info is unclear, please let me know.

- Nina


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:44 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 01:34 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".  I'm a bit confused as well, because it's possible to not have that checked, but still set the hashtag #guidelines-notice to Special.  Maybe that's what this sync does, but I hope Mark will clarify it.

On the 1st of the month, the process that sends out guidelines and monthly reminder emails first sets the special field of the #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags to be the same setting as the `send monthly as special` setting on the appropriate member notice.

Hope this helps.
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Duane
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 01:34 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".  I'm a bit confused as well, because it's possible to not have that checked, but still set the hashtag #guidelines-notice to Special.  Maybe that's what this sync does, but I hope Mark will clarify it.

Duane


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 05:36 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: For #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags, sync the hashtag special field to the member notice special field every month.
I'm a bit confused by this one, on three points:

  • A 'sync' implies two-way updates but the 'to' reference suggests a one-way update copying from the hashtag details 'to' the member notice details
  • The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
  • At what point in the month is this 'sync' supposed to take place? I'm guessing the 1st of each month as that would tie in with some other 'monthly' activities but it would be nice to get confirmation.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Clarify Member Notice changes in Activity Log #suggestion #done

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

at the moment, when a Member Notice is created, updated or deleted it seems to generate the same message in the Activity Log:

changed group member notices via web

Could we add a bit more detail to specify the type of Member Notice and the type of action that was performed please?

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Wow, Mark, you must have cloned yourself this week. :-)
--
J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

Thanks Mark,

in addition to the list above, I can see the following:

  • CHANGE: The text 'Upcoming Event' has been removed from #cal-reminder message (Suggestion #25684)
  • CHANGE: The dates in the subject of calendar messages are now in local format (Suggestion #25673)

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Testing Notifications; Fault or Feature? #bug

Chris Jones
 

Mark; many thanks for those changes. They should make things much more logical now.

Regards,

Chris


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • UPDATE: Documentation updates from Nina.
  • NEW: Monthly reminder notices can now be marked to be sent as special messages.
  • NEW: Added missing Notify Members checkboxes to remaining file, photo and album actions with the exception of moving files (TBD).
  • NEW: Added moderator notifications and Notify Member checkboxes for adding, modifying and deleting photo albums.
  • NEW: When moving a photo, added a moved photo activity log entry, Notify Members checkbox, and moderator notification.
  • CHANGE: In the Activity Log, change the word dir to folder when referring to Files Sections actions to be more consistent.
  • NEW: When uploading photos, there is now a text box to enter a description.
  • NEW: Added a Notify Members checkbox to the edit photo page.
  • BUGFIX: We were not properly escaping commas, semicolons and slashes in DESCRIPTION fields when generating calendar ICS files. Also, Google Calendar has a bug where it will ignore the entire DESCRIPTION field if there is a colon in the text, so we now replace any colons with spaces.
  • API: Added /getorg endpoint.
  • CHANGE: For #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags, sync the hashtag special field to the member notice special field every month.
  • NEW: Monthly reminder notices can now be marked to be sent as special messages.
  • NEW: When sending out #monthly-notice messages, mimic what we do with #guidelines-notice message, create the #monthly-notice hashtag with a delete timeframe of a month, and all mods options checked.
  • CHANGE: In addition to not sending moderator push notifications to moderators that generated them, also don't send email notifications as well.
  • BUGFIX: Changed z-index of floating table header to be below the Your Groups dropdown.
  • BUGFIX: In the new moderator notifications, we were using the person's account display name, not the individual group display name (which is generally, but not always the same).
  • NEW: Include more information in album and photo group export data.
  • CHANGE: In digests, we were being too aggressive in stripping quoted sections of messages out when we knew the original message was not a reply. This led to some forwarded messages in digests missing key parts.
  • BUGFIX: Summaries were being sent to pending members.
  • API: Changed /registerdevice endpoint to /addpushsub
  • API: Added /getpushsubs, /deletepushsub, and /deleteallpushsubs endpoints.
  • BUGFIX: Fix reflow issue in database table view with new floatThead.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: no zip file email received after exporting Photos #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:01 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
To be clear:  Emailed Photos ARE included in the export -- along with all the other attachments -- as part of the messages.mbox file.
To be clear(er) - yes I know emailed photos are included in messages when they're exported - it was the fact that they are not if you just export photos that I was querying
As for clarifying this in the owner's manual, you will have to take that up in the docs subgroup.
My message in the docs subgroup was already drafted

Cheers
Andy


moderated Re: Testing Notifications; Fault or Feature? #bug

 

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:50 AM Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Simple – to – report things first:

  •  The creation of a Folder is notified, but the creation of a photo Album is not. (Note: there is a mix of terminology here; in the Activity log a Folder is called a directory, and the Notification refers to a directory as well; IMHO it would be better if the word directory was not used.

 

- We now generate moderator notifications for album creation, modification and deletion, and each action also now has `Notify Members` checkboxes.
- The term 'dir' has been replaced in the Files section by 'folder'. 

  • The Move of a.File is notified, but the Move of a Photo is not. FWIW there is no available entry in the Activity log for the movement of a Photo.

- We now generate activity log entries for file moves as well as moderator notifications.
 

 

  • If a Photo is Edited, e.g. by adding some Description or changing its Name then a Notification is generated but the notification is to the effect that a new upload has taken place. This has the potential to be profoundly confusing. (Name changing can be a useful way of determining the order in which photos are displayed in an album, and adding a Description cannot be done at the time of upload; it can only be done by editing; neither action should be seen as in any way unusual. ) Edits should be notified as edits, not new uploads.

 

- You can now add a description when uploading photo(s). 
- The notification when updating a photo should say that it's been updated, not uploaded.
- There are now `Notify Members` checkboxes for all file and photo actions, with the exception of moving files (TBD). 

  • Notifications of Folder / File activities are by instigator’s Display Name only but Notifications of Album / Photo activity are by Display Name and email address.  It should be by Display name only.  

- Email address is no longer included in photo notifications unless a display name is not set.
 

Thanks,
Mark

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