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moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 04:59 PM, Chuck Palmer wrote:
please explain to me why my group's members should be able to put their credit card information in?
Sure, no problem. It's because they might be in other groups that do have Donations turned on.

You're still talking as if you think users are in only one group: yours. Whereas they may be (and often are) in several or many groups, all of which can toggle their Donations on and off.

"Donations on" or "Donations off" is not an account/user variable(*). "Credit card" is a user variable. They don't match 1-1. The credit card should be on if any one or more of the groups the user is in has Donations on.
 
(*) except indirectly, as a function of ALL the groups the user is in
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moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Chuck Palmer
 

Still feels like a basic disconnect here. Donations on or off is only an indirect function of the account. You’d have to continually check all the groups the user is in.
Only group owners have the ability to turn on/off the Donations functionality for their groups.  If I, as a group owner, don't want Donations enabled for my group and therefore don't enable the Stripe connection, please explain to me why my group's members should be able to put their credit card information in?

In addition to having some of my members asking me what it's for, I wonder from a privacy perspective where the info is physically kept?

Kind Regards,
-chuck


moderated Re: List-Post header option for individual groups #suggestion

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:13 AM Drew <pubx1@...> wrote:

The various Reply To Sender contortions continues to be an irritating hassle for our group. Would it be possible to implement the List-Post email header as an option for those groups that want it? It was formerly removed from system wide use at Groups.io but it would be a welcomed optional feature for some groups.

Can you give me some more information as to why the Reply To Sender stuff is a problem for your group? And what would the List-Post header get you?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated message about deleted topic due to hashtag time-out refers to "thread" not "topic" #bug #fixed

 

Missed another one! Need to change "Thread 'bla bla bla' was deleted because of an expired hashtag" to "Topic bla bla bla was deleted"

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moderated Re: Profile photo #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:32 AM, Duane wrote:
Someone on GMF reported that they couldn't delete their photo in the profile for a group. 
Mark -- Here's a reminder that this bug still remains to be fixed.

Got another report on it in GMF this morning.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated List-Post header option for individual groups #suggestion

Drew
 

The various Reply To Sender contortions continues to be an irritating hassle for our group. Would it be possible to implement the List-Post email header as an option for those groups that want it? It was formerly removed from system wide use at Groups.io but it would be a welcomed optional feature for some groups.

Drew


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

 

Still feels like a basic disconnect here. Donations on or off is only an indirect function of the account. You’d have to continually check all the groups the user is in.


On Sep 2, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:26 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
But Mark, you say, things disappear on the group sidebar if they are not enabled. You're right! Perhaps I should change that so that instead of them disappearing, they should be disabled. Anyone object to that?
I've noticed that when grayed out, it can be difficult to distinguish the text color from 'normal'.  If it's not too much trouble, maybe use the ban icon in front of (or behind?) anything not available instead of only when hovering over it, in addition to the graying.

Thanks,
Duane

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moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Duane
 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:26 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
But Mark, you say, things disappear on the group sidebar if they are not enabled. You're right! Perhaps I should change that so that instead of them disappearing, they should be disabled. Anyone object to that?
I've noticed that when grayed out, it can be difficult to distinguish the text color from 'normal'.  If it's not too much trouble, maybe use the ban icon in front of (or behind?) anything not available instead of only when hovering over it, in addition to the graying.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Radioman ZeroZero <radioman@...>
 

If you don't need them then you don't need to know where they are.  It's just clutter for most users.
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Thanks Steve


moderated Re: Event RSVP Activity Log #done #suggestion

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 11:06 AM Charlie Behnken <charles.behnken@...> wrote:


First problem was people getting RSVPs rejected due to the Event being locked.  When I looked at the Event (a day later) it was not locked, but Locking an Event is not logged in the Activity log, so I can not tell if it was actually locked and unlocked, or who locked it.

We now log when someone locks/unlocks/cancels an event.
 
Second was the organizer sent out an email to the Attendees and no one got it. This 'message' is also not logged in the Activity Log as a message so once again I can not tell if it was actually submitted or not.

We now log when someone sends a message to event responders.
 
P.S. there is a bug in RSVP - when I click on View Responses it tells me how many people are attending etc.  It also says I am attending on every event even though I have not responded. If I respond Will Not Attend it is correct.
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This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 07:05 AM, Duane wrote:
But it doesn't hurt anything either.  It could be a nightmare, IMO, to keep track of whether any group a person belongs to has Donations enabled at any given time since they can be turned on and off as needed. 
Exactly. Seems like someone here gets it.
 
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moderated Groups.io page footer not anchored on Firefox mobile #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I use Firefox on my mobile phone and I've noticed that the 'Messages  New Topic  More' page footer is no longer anchored to the bottom of the screen when I'm trying to approve messages. The initial display looks fine:




but when I tap the screen to approve a message the page footer moves up, covers the buttons and the approve action is not done:



It seems fine on Chrome and the default Samsung browser.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

 

“If Donations are not enabled” for what, exactly? Are you saying groups.io should daily monitor whether any of the user’s groups have Donstuins enabled, and toggle the enablement of their credit back and forth accordingly, depending on their groups? People here are addressing this issue as if “Donations enabled” applied to a user (it doesn’t), or as if the user is only in one group. Doesn’t make sense because the former is not correct and the latter probably is usually not. 


On Sep 1, 2020, at 6:04 AM, Chuck Palmer <palmerct@...> wrote:

On the contrary — it does not make sense for members to be able to enter a credit card in their account info if they are not owners or if Donations are not enabled. 

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moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 08:04 AM, Chuck Palmer wrote:
it does not make sense for members to be able to enter a credit card in their account info if they are not owners or if Donations are not enabled.
But it doesn't hurt anything either.  It could be a nightmare, IMO, to keep track of whether any group a person belongs to has Donations enabled at any given time since they can be turned on and off as needed.  People can also join and leave groups as often as they want.  Having the card info already entered would make it easier for someone that creates a group and decides to upgrade.  The new manuals in the Help Center certainly make finding things a lot easier than they used to be, but unfortunately many people don't read them.  Having unused/unavailable options disabled/grayed would be useful in this respect.

Duane


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Terry Slattery <tcs@...>
 

I agree with Mark. People learn where things are, even if they are not enabled. "Now, where did I see that option?" and an ensuing search through the GUI to try to find the option, only to find out that the 'mode' you were in didn't show it. This is why User Interface guidelines prefer that items be disabled (grayed out) instead of removed.
  -Terry


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Chuck Palmer
 

On the contrary — it does not make sense for members to be able to enter a credit card in their account info if they are not owners or if Donations are not enabled. 


moderated Re: Turn off Credit Card tab #suggestion

Chuck Palmer
 

Agree. By “turn off” I meant disable — not remove. 


moderated Files Upload button display bug #bug

Chuck Palmer
 

See this thread in GMF - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/files_upload_option_still/76526867

Per Christos' recommendation I am submitting it as a bug.

Regards,
-chuck


moderated Re: New feature: Reply to Topic Followers Only (resend) #update

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 4:02 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Can people still follow the topic without responding to it, by actively selecting to follow it? And can people who've responded to it (and therefore automatically follow it) elect to unfollow it later?

Yes to both of those questions.

Mark 


moderated Re: New feature: Reply to Topic Followers Only (resend) #update

Linda King
 

Okay, I just checked my settings. Mine is set to (reply to) Sender. If I understand correctly, my messages will stay the same they were and are not set to what you described below...correct? (Because what is mentioned below is something I definitely DO NOT want.) I just want to be sure.

Thanks!!!
Linda



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 3:28 pm
Subject: [beta] New feature: Reply to Topic Followers Only (resend) #update

Hi All,
(Resending this to fix the formatting).
I've just pushed a new group, topic and hashtag reply to setting, reply to topic followers only. Here's how it works:
  • The first message in a new topic is sent to everyone in the group as per their normal settings.
  • A follow topic record is created automatically for the person who originated the topic.
  • A follow topic record is created automatically for anyone who replies to this original message.
  • All subsequent messages to the topic are sent only to people who are following the topic.
This is a reply to setting, so if the group is set to that, it will apply to all topics. If a hashtag is set to it, it will only apply to topics with that hashtag. Also, you can take an existing topic and change the reply to to this new setting. When you do that, the system will create follow topic records for everyone that has participated in that topic up to that point.
What does all this mean? It's now easier to have semi-private topics within your group; where only participants see the topic, but where the messages still get archived. You can also take an existing, active topic and hide it from the larger group.
Please let me know if you have questions.
Thanks, Mark

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