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moderated Re: power shutdowns in Northern California this weekend

David Tuma
 

Mark,
I hope you can maintain sanity while you continue with the outstanding service and customer response.

I’ve seen nothing like it before.

It is so much different than speaking into the Yahoo Groups vacuum.

BZ.

w/r,
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Are you in the area of the planned power blackouts over the weekend, Saturday evening through Monday afternoon? I've heard that it will hit nearly all counties in the SF Bay Area (it is definitely hitting mine). It occurred to me to wonder, given the possible effect on all the yahoo transfers.

I think I'll be fine. We didn't lose power last time, although a bunch of our neighbors did. Plus we do have a backup generator. The person that accepts Yahoo invites, however, is expecting to lose power this afternoon. We're almost caught up on accepting invites, but that will probably fall behind over the next day or two until he gets power again.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Yahoo Group transfer update

 

Hi All,

Here's the status of the various queues involved in the Yahoo Group transfer process:

- We've accepted all invites up through last night.
- We are exporting Yahoo Groups that were given the go ahead as of Oct 23 at 8am pacific time.
- We are importing Yahoo Groups that had completed export as of Oct 19 at 6pm pacific time.

Another way, in terms of the steps listed on the transfer page:

Your group is being exported from Yahoo right now. [Step 2 of 4]
Groups are currently waiting about 3 days in this queue.

Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about N groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
Once groups reach this step, they are currently waiting about 7 days in this queue.

Right now, I'm doing 20 group exports concurrently. I'm doing 4 group imports concurrently.

Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions for how I can make this more understandable. I'll try to post this on a regular basis.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: power shutdowns in Northern California this weekend

M K Ramadoss
 

My invite from TaxProXchange is still pending since a week ago. Not yet accepted
Can you check. I can send another request if needed.

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:31 AM M K Ramadoss <mkr777@...> wrote:
My invite from TaxProXchange is still pending since a week ago.
Can you check. I can send another request if needed.

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:27 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Are you in the area of the planned power blackouts over the weekend, Saturday evening through Monday afternoon? I've heard that it will hit nearly all counties in the SF Bay Area (it is definitely hitting mine). It occurred to me to wonder, given the possible effect on all the yahoo transfers.

I think I'll be fine. We didn't lose power last time, although a bunch of our neighbors did. Plus we do have a backup generator. The person that accepts Yahoo invites, however, is expecting to lose power this afternoon. We're almost caught up on accepting invites, but that will probably fall behind over the next day or two until he gets power again.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: power shutdowns in Northern California this weekend

M K Ramadoss
 

My invite from TaxProXchange is still pending since a week ago.
Can you check. I can send another request if needed.


On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:27 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Are you in the area of the planned power blackouts over the weekend, Saturday evening through Monday afternoon? I've heard that it will hit nearly all counties in the SF Bay Area (it is definitely hitting mine). It occurred to me to wonder, given the possible effect on all the yahoo transfers.

I think I'll be fine. We didn't lose power last time, although a bunch of our neighbors did. Plus we do have a backup generator. The person that accepts Yahoo invites, however, is expecting to lose power this afternoon. We're almost caught up on accepting invites, but that will probably fall behind over the next day or two until he gets power again.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Transfer invites

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:54 AM Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:
I did invite the "transfer@" address to join as a member of the YAHOO group, but as of 2 days later that user does not seem to be there.

Like I said, check your transfer status and if it hasn't changed you need to send another invite.

 
Also wanted to know, is it possible to merge another group, (into the same group.io)  once one was already merged? Or is it possible to merge
one into a sub group? The sub group possibility seems interesting to me because the 2nd yahoo group I want to merge is more or less an "archive"
type now, because theres no activity to it much anymore for years, but the email posts can be a useful resource to have access to.
_
Yes, you can import Yahoo Groups into existing Groups.io groups or subgroups.

Mark 


moderated Re: Search Function Error in Messages after Yahoo Transfer

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:35 PM RCardona <rcardona3451@...> wrote:
After a successful transfer of our Yahoo Group (THANKS MARK!!!), when one attempts a search within the cloned messages, no results get pulled.  Instead it only says "The search produced no results."   Is there a feature needed that integrates transferred messages into the search engine?

The search indexer falls behind during the day as I import groups. I purposely try to not schedule group imports overnight to let it catch up. I've also added additional machines to the search cluster to deal with the influx of data. Anyways, your messages should show up within a day or two.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: power shutdowns in Northern California this weekend

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Are you in the area of the planned power blackouts over the weekend, Saturday evening through Monday afternoon? I've heard that it will hit nearly all counties in the SF Bay Area (it is definitely hitting mine). It occurred to me to wonder, given the possible effect on all the yahoo transfers.

I think I'll be fine. We didn't lose power last time, although a bunch of our neighbors did. Plus we do have a backup generator. The person that accepts Yahoo invites, however, is expecting to lose power this afternoon. We're almost caught up on accepting invites, but that will probably fall behind over the next day or two until he gets power again.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Search Function Error in Messages after Yahoo Transfer

RCardona
 

On 10/26/19 10:55 AM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
With all of the new groups being transferred, it may well be that it is going to take some time for the indexing to catch up. Searching has worked with all of the groups that I have had transferred, so hopefully it just a matter of being patient.
 
--
Gerald
_._,_._,_

It is now about 12 hours since completion of the transfer, and as Gerald surmised, indexing is merely lagging.  The main page Message History is beginning to fill in and the search function is now pulling results.   Thanks for the heads up Gerald!!

R. Cardona


moderated Re: Search Function Error in Messages after Yahoo Transfer

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 02:35 AM, RCardona wrote:
After a successful transfer of our Yahoo Group (THANKS MARK!!!), when one attempts a search within the cloned messages, no results get pulled.  Instead it only says "The search produced no results."   Is there a feature needed that integrates transferred messages into the search engine?

R. Cardona
With all of the new groups being transferred, it may well be that it is going to take some time for the indexing to catch up. Searching has worked with all of the groups that I have had transferred, so hopefully it just a matter of being patient.
 
--
Gerald


moderated Re: Search Function Error in Messages after Yahoo Transfer

 

The answer to this is also very very important to me. 
Susan B


On Oct 26, 2019, at 1:35 AM, RCardona <rcardona3451@...> wrote:

After a successful transfer of our Yahoo Group (THANKS MARK!!!), when one attempts a search within the cloned messages, no results get pulled.  Instead it only says "The search produced no results."   Is there a feature needed that integrates transferred messages into the search engine?

R. Cardona


moderated Re: Transfer invites

Technotronic Dimensions
 

I did invite the "transfer@" address to join as a member of the YAHOO group, but as of 2 days later that user does not seem to be there.

Also wanted to know, is it possible to merge another group, (into the same group.io)  once one was already merged? Or is it possible to merge
one into a sub group? The sub group possibility seems interesting to me because the 2nd yahoo group I want to merge is more or less an "archive"
type now, because theres no activity to it much anymore for years, but the email posts can be a useful resource to have access to.


moderated Search Function Error in Messages after Yahoo Transfer

RCardona
 

After a successful transfer of our Yahoo Group (THANKS MARK!!!), when one attempts a search within the cloned messages, no results get pulled.  Instead it only says "The search produced no results."   Is there a feature needed that integrates transferred messages into the search engine?

R. Cardona


moderated power shutdowns in Northern California this weekend

 

Mark,

Are you in the area of the planned power blackouts over the weekend, Saturday evening through Monday afternoon? I've heard that it will hit nearly all counties in the SF Bay Area (it is definitely hitting mine). It occurred to me to wonder, given the possible effect on all the yahoo transfers.
--
J

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moderated Transfer invites

 

Hi All,

If you have started a Yahoo Group transfer, and the status is the message that starts "Make sure you have sent an invite to your group", that means that we have not received your invite yet and that you should send another one. That message will change automatically when we receive the invite and is not subject to the delays in other parts of the process are seeing.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Option to Moderate Files and Folders

Janis
 

I was just in the moderation settings in my Yahoo groups and noticed an option I wish I had used before, an option to moderate photo uploads by members.  To save storage, it is best to only allow some types of photos that fit the group and do not break copyright laws.

Also, in my old group at Yahoo, I found a couple of files with incorrect lineage where DNA tests have proven there is no connection. There could be other issues with file uploads. And again, to save storage, I want to moderate file uploads before they are added to our files section.

Could we have moderating of file and photo uploads added to our group manager options, please?

Yahoo does not have the file moderation option.
This is what I see in moderation settings at Yahoo.
Control photos or messages to be scrutinized, also have a check on the new-members activities
 
Messages :
Moderated
 
Unmoderated
 
Moderated for new members
 
 
Enable approval before posting message to group. Choose 'Moderated for new members' if you want to enable moderation for members that join the group after this setting is enabled
Photos :
Moderated
 
Unmoderated
 
Enable approval before posting Photos to group


moderated Re: Change in group transfer queue sorting algorithm

Harm Selling <h.selling@...>
 

Mark,

Thank you for correcting this problem.

Since the correction the waiting queue is not growing anymore, but shrinking, as it should do.
Slowly, but I understand importing a lot of data takes time.

I'm glad that the problem (being moved backwards in the queue) now appears to be recognized, and the end of waiting is in sight.


I'm happy again!


---

Harm Selling
http://genealogiegroningen.nl
http://genealogiewinschoten.nl

http://genealogiestrating.nl

 

Van: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> Namens Mark Fletcher
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 oktober 2019 1:04
Aan: beta@groups.io
Onderwerp: [beta] Change in group transfer queue sorting algorithm

 

Hi All, 

 

After some consideration, I've changed how the groups in the transfer queue are being sorted, in an effort to make things more fair.

 

Previously, transfer requests were sorted by when they were initially created.

 

Now, transfer requests are sorted by when the go ahead is given to transfer the group.

 

Figuring things out as I go.....

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Re: Migrate Groups to Subgroups

West Coast Compañeros Staff
 



On 10/25/19 7:15 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 6:25 AM West Coast Compañeros Staff <westcoastcompaneros@...> wrote:


We have accepted the invite to your group. Before we can transfer your group, you must upgrade it to the Premium Yearly option. Once you've done that, return here and you will be able to give the go ahead to transfer.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark
(normally beta@ is not for bug reports, but as this feature was just discussed here, I approved the message)

Thanks very much, Mark. The plans for all the subgroups now correctly display Premium Yearly. I did originally submit this report to support@groups.io, but, after not getting a response (understandably given your workload), I decided to try posting this to beta so that I could get the problem in front of your eyes somehow. I apologize for the breach of protocol.

Robert R.


moderated Re: 2 questions about the Yahoo Group transfer

Janis
 

I only have two members at Yahoo with the no email option. I contacted them directly using my private email that I we used before we had a Yahoo group.

Your members set to No Email do not have a clue that your group has moved.

You must contact them to inform them. People with the NO email option set  do not get special notices.

1. Change them to individual email and send out your notice that the group is being transferred. Include the link for yiur new group home page or information about the groups.io website.

2. This is also a test for bouncing. If they bounce you can decide to remove them.  

3. If your group is currently having files copied in the transfer, step 2, the bouncing members will not be copied so you could wait until you are in step 3 or 4 of the transfer. OR you can try to contact them by private email. But they may have the group in allowed senders and your private email might not be in their allowed senders. I would wait for step 3 or 4 then change their email settings. You can change it back after you send the notice ti inform them of the move to Groups.io

As owner, you have a right to disallow the no email setting.


On Friday, October 25, 2019, Juulz <julesmcn@...> wrote:
What I did was send out a Special Notice to my group telling them that the archives have been exported and no new messages will be archived at Yahoo. I warned them to save their "on-topic" posts until the move is complete... I think that should allay their concerns.


moderated Re: Change in group transfer queue sorting algorithm

Duane
 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:09 AM, Duane wrote:
Unless it's been changed recently, the button should say "Start Group Transfer Process".
Apologies for the bad information.  It does in fact say "Give Go Ahead To Transfer", though there is sometimes a delay before it updates.

Duane


moderated Re: Change in group transfer queue sorting algorithm

Duane
 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 09:39 AM, Judy F. wrote:
did the selecting of all of the items I needed transferred, but I didn't see a button saying 'go ahead'
Unless it's been changed recently, the button should say "Start Group Transfer Process".  We can handle this type of question on GMF.

Duane