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moderated Re: Update/Rest of the year

Ginny T.
 

Rest up and feel better Mark - and get some R&R. You more than deserve it. I can't even imagine what life was like when YG finally made things "official", and all of the hanger-oners hit the panic button.

Travel safe and have great holidays,
Ginny
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moderated Re: Proposal for Database Changes

Charles Roberts
 

Yes to print button and for images in the database to be printed as well.
The EXPORT DATABASE feature does not now include images.....this makes the database useless to me.  Can't use database whose images only exist in the ether.
Chuck


moderated Yahoo has extended deadline for downloading from your group

Frances
 

"Beginning October 28, new content won't be able to be uploaded to the site, and all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed after December 14. We will continue to process requests to download your content as long as they are submitted by January 31, 2020. "

Source:  https://ca.help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN31010.html?impressions=true

See this wiki page on Group Managers Forum for what to do with your mbox download.
No group or Groups.io membership needed to read.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

Frances


moderated Re: Update/Rest of the year

Douglas Swearingen <dougiebehr@...>
 

Thank You Mark for all you do to make Groups.io a huge success.

Have a Great Holiday.

Doug


From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 11:09 AM
To: beta@groups.io <beta@groups.io>
Subject: [beta] Update/Rest of the year
 
Hi All,

I have unmoderated the beta group again. Please keep the discussion focused on new features and not support requests.

With the great Yahoo Groups migration winding down, I can turn back to projects in process before that happened. My focus continues to be on the app. It is almost ready for testing and I will soon create a new subgroup for that. The first version will not have moderator features; it's just focused on normal users. I will also be getting back to work on notifications soon.

I am working this week (although at reduced capacity because of a cold), and then will be on holiday until January 6th. As usual, I'll be monitoring the site. But answers to support requests will be delayed. Due to support volume, I can only answer messages from mods/owners of premium groups at this time. I wish it wasn't so, but that's reality.

2019 was quite a year for Groups.io. 2020 is looking to be even better. Thanks for your support!

Mark


moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

Mark Irving
 

Yes, I think the group setting auto-lock (but I've no strong opinion about auto-moderate) would be more useful if it applied after a topic became inactive, rather than counting its age since first message.

Setting moderation for a topic which seems set to grumble on for ever is a decision I would usually give to the moderators' human judgement, rather than an automated timer -- but that, of course, depends on the nature of the group. The groups I help look after may not be typical; we use auto-lock as a way of preventing the occasional reply where the original discussion is long forgotten.

  - Mark


moderated Re: Feature Request for Yahoo Group Transfers #suggestion

Jon Matcho
 

I will end with a request for 2020, which is to support transfer of pre-Easy Transfer from Yahoo messages into a groups.io account.  I have messages saved from Yahoo's own export/download process as well as PG Online.

Happy End of Year everyone,
Jon


moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

 

And to be clear, we’re now talking about the group settings, not hashtag durations (which work a different way and should definitely not be changed to consider imactivity - they either delete or lock the topic based on age and have to stay thst way).


On Dec 10, 2019, at 3:25 AM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

p.s. I do understand your idea. You're thinking the topics should be locked/moderated after they become inactive. But the purpose of the feature is to lock/moderate them when they simply reach a certain age, so that they don't go on (or go on without some sort of control) forever. Perhaps auto-lock could be changed to work that way, which does make some sort of sense. But I think auto-moderate should work based on age, not activity.
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moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

 

p.s. I do understand your idea. You're thinking the topics should be locked/moderated after they become inactive. But the purpose of the feature is to lock/moderate them when they simply reach a certain age, so that they don't go on (or go on without some sort of control) forever. Perhaps auto-lock could be changed to work that way, which does make some sort of sense. But I think auto-moderate should work based on age, not activity.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

 

The auto-lock/auto-moderate feature does not, and in my opinion *should not*, count days from last activity. That is not its intended function.


On Dec 10, 2019, at 2:21 AM, Mark Irving <m-pfaff@...> wrote:

It would work well, I suggest, if the auto-lock or auto-moderate timer counted days since last activity on a topic, and treated unlocking by a moderator as an activity. I think the timer at present counts from the oldest message on a thread, rather than the newest, so an adjustment might be needed by groups using this feature.

  - Mark


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moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

Mark Irving
 

It would work well, I suggest, if the auto-lock or auto-moderate timer counted days since last activity on a topic, and treated unlocking by a moderator as an activity. I think the timer at present counts from the oldest message on a thread, rather than the newest, so an adjustment might be needed by groups using this feature.

  - Mark


moderated Re: Change: Members can only donate once to a donation request

txercoupemuseum.org
 

I agree.  I recently asked for a $2.00 donation and my goal was reached by about 18 much more generous donors.  That might not always be the case, and the percentage of “freeloaders” can be large, depending on how well motivated a group’s members are.

I’m sure sometimes one has to go back to “the well” for more.

WRB

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On Dec 9, 2019, at 6:34 PM, Rush Kester via Groups.Io <rwkester@...> wrote:

You might want to make the limit 1 donation per day (or week).  As it may be possible for the fund drive to last a long period of time.  And the person intends to donate again.

Rush Kester 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta <beta@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 4:09 pm
Subject: [beta] Change: Members can only donate once to a donation request

Hi All,

There have been a few instances of members accidentally donating multiple times to the same donation request. I've changed it so that a person can only donate once to a given donation request.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Change: Members can only donate once to a donation request

Rush Kester
 

You might want to make the limit 1 donation per day (or week).  As it may be possible for the fund drive to last a long period of time.  And the person intends to donate again.

Rush Kester 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta <beta@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 4:09 pm
Subject: [beta] Change: Members can only donate once to a donation request

Hi All,

There have been a few instances of members accidentally donating multiple times to the same donation request. I've changed it so that a person can only donate once to a given donation request.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

 

CORRECTION: Actually I have to make a correction to my request. I had been saving up the request until beta was open to feature requests again, but I failed to look at my notes about it. The real issue is when the group itself (not a hashtag) locks or moderates messages after x days. There is no way to unlock or unmoderate timed-out topics in that case, other than to remove or change the group's entire setting in that regard. The hashtag issue is secondary.
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moderated Re: Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

 

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:48 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
The only way to unmoderate or unlock it is to change the hashtag duration
Or, of course, to remove the hashtag from the topic, which is probably normally undesirable.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Bulk Delete - A solution in GIO -MkII #suggestion

 

Dear Mark Fletcher, Thank you for providing a fast and responsive list messaging system. We all love it.

 

On Thursday, 21 November 2019 Duane on GMF sent me here to join the discussion.

See: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/60996185#24604

See: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/34280436

 

I present my fix to the "Bulk Delete" problem. These changes, if implemented, represent a sensible and consistent approach to the problem. It covers ease of use, privacy legislation & an eminently practical approach. When the changes are implemented in GIO you will have a truly flexible solution meeting all the needs of Groups.io Inc., Individual Groups, Group Owners & Moderators, Individual Subscribers and Privacy Legislation now & for the future.

Content that can now be deleted is any and/or all Messages, Photos, Albums, associated HashTags, Attachments of any file type & Files in the files area.

 

Thank you for looking.

Raphael  <raphaelvowles@...>  Reading, Berkshire UK

I am a retired programmer. I'd be happy to discuss this proposal further.


moderated Re: Update/Rest of the year

Scott Logan
 

I'll add my 2¢ worth here too.

First and foremost, thank you to Mark for all the work and I'm sure many headaches, both due to our friends at Yahoo and from so many "newbies". Given the troubles created by Yahoo, I think you've done an admirable job. Glad to hear you've planned some time off, we really don't want you burned out!

As an aside, I feel like I've come "full circle" now.

My group, a combined user support/discussion and (occasional) promotion group for my business was originally started with eGroups in 2000. At that time, there was an option to pay a subscription fee to eliminate ads, which I happily paid (it was not much as I recall). This was much appreciated by my members, many of whom were also customers of my small business.

So now that "little" group has come back under Mark's wing, while in the meanwhile having grown from about 100 members to over 2,500 members. I've also transferred 2 other groups (one of which goes back to 1998) from YG to GIO and helped 2 other groups get moved.

GIO is so far superior to what was available under YG (even when it WAS supported), that it hurts to even place them in the same category.

Thank you Mark and your team!

Scott Logan
https://groups.io/g/Lathe-List
https://groups.io/g/QuickBooks


moderated Change: Members can only donate once to a donation request

 

Hi All,

There have been a few instances of members accidentally donating multiple times to the same donation request. I've changed it so that a person can only donate once to a given donation request.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Allow auto-moderated/locked topics due to time-out hashtag to be unmoderated/unlocked by hand

 

It is currently impossible to ever unmoderate or unlock a topic that was moderated or locked due to a hashtag time-out, because the system goes back through the topics list every night and moderates or locks it again. At first, I would try to unmoderate such a topic, and be perplexed that it would suddenly be moderated again the next day. Then I figured out what was happening. :-) The only way to unmoderate or unlock it is to change the hashtag duration, and this seems unacceptable (or at minimum unintuitive). So this request is to allow such topics to be unmoderated or unlocked by hand. They would probably have to be marked somehow so that they bypass the automated process from that point forward.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated member counts for member categories in Members dropdown #suggestion

 

It would be helpful to have member counts appear next to the named categories in the Members dropdown (Moderators, Pending Approval, Bouncing, Banned, Past). Having a count for the bouncing members would be particularly helpful, and is the origin of this request. The others would not be particularly helpful but could be included for consistency.

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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Re: Update/Rest of the year

Catherine Dold <cathydold@...>
 

Thank you, Mark!

I'm getting great feedback from my group members...they love groups.io!

Cathy

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