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moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Glenn
 

Do they get a bounce notification? Or does that only go to adminsitrators? How would they even know the message exists, if it bounces?

And, as you do, if folks don't want large messages, they can set their max attachment size appropriately.

The attachment overhead is about 33%, not 50%, from BASE64 encoding.

Large attachments have their place for some groups. Having it show up in email automatically is a convenience. Less interactivity required, stored locally on the computer for later. Some folks like it that way, some folks like it your way.


moderated Re: Sent Invitations list has inconsistent results when sorted

Glenn
 

Thanks. I missed the download button, and in fact, got confused at the Members page due to "Pending Members" hiding the "Members list" when I was looking for the above info.

Didn't know about support@groups.io, will report it there. Still a newbie here. Did know about GMF, but hadn't figured out all the protocol: So ask for help at GMF, report bugs to support@groups.io, and request new features here?

The bug is what brought me here for this stream of discussion, not knowing about support@....


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:01 PM, Glenn wrote:
what if someone sends more than 10 or 25MB? Then it bounces.
Then they go to the site to read it.  I can't think of a good reason to be sending an attachment that large to a group though.  There can be a lot of overhead involved in sending something as an attachment, often 50% of the original file size.  It would make more sense to me to upload it into a file (or photo) and let people decide for themselves if they want to use the bandwidth to view it (without the overhead.)

As a side note, I have my subscription set to 0 for max attachment size, just for situations such as this.

Duane


moderated Re: Sent Invitations list has inconsistent results when sorted

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:03 PM, Glenn wrote:
4. Would be nice to download the current members list as a TSV with names and emails.  That's what I really was looking for.
You can do that into a CSV using the Download button at the top of the Members page, then manipulate as you want.

You should probably ask about things like this on GMF to make sure they don't exist before requesting features on the beta group (which is what it's supposed to be used for, per the group description.)  The only item I see on your list that really belongs on this group is #1, but possibly #3 as well.  The sorting problem on the Invite page should be reported to support@groups.io as a bug, though I wasn't able to duplicate it.  I also didn't see duplicate or missing entries, but don't have very many invites on my group since I usually delete them as they're accepted.

Duane


moderated Re: Sent Invitations list has inconsistent results when sorted

Glenn
 

In the same vein,

4. Would be nice to download the current members list as a TSV with names and emails.  That's what I really was looking for.


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Glenn
 

Almost true, Duane: what if someone sends more than 10 or 25MB? Then it bounces.


moderated Sent Invitations list has inconsistent results when sorted

Glenn
 

Doing a manual migration of a Yahoo group, and trying to track which members have accepted, and so the Sent Invitations, sorted by Status, seemed to be a great way to go.

But there are duplicate entries, and missing entries. The right number of Accepted status entries in total, as compared to the default sorted-by-email list.

So I had to resort to copy/pasting them all to a spreadsheet, and sorting by status there, to get the complete list of Accepted (so far) folks.

1. Would be nice if we could just download the list as a TSV or CSV some spreadsheet format
2. Would be nice if the Status sort produced correct results online.
3. I didn't check the sort-by-Invited list for accuracy, but that column is a misnomer... it starts out as the invited date, but then updates to the Failed or Accepted date: which is useful, but not quite an accurate column name. It seems to really be the "date of last status".


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 08:51 PM, Glenn wrote:
it would be nice if groups.io allowed those limits to be selected by the users
All they have to do is choose Unlimited on their Subscription settings and they'll get whatever someone sends.

Duane


moderated More attachment size selections requested

Glenn
 

Since many email providers limit incoming emails to 10MB and 25MB, it would be nice if groups.io allowed those limits to be selected by the users for their incoming attachment sizes, avoiding the need to click through to the attachment for more of the incoming messages from groups.io.

Better, would be to allow a specific number of MB, rather than just a menu of choices.


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Bob Bellizzi
 

Rick,
To test this issue, I started typing the message below and then cut off the wifi after the last word below.
I then terminated the instance of chrome that I was using to type my message online.
I waited 10 seconds and then reconnected the laptop wifi to the access point and
I then opened a new tab in Chrome (I had left Chrome running when I killed the wifi)
I reentered groups.io and selected Beta group.
Then I looked at my top draft of 8 outstanding and it was the message you see below
I selected it and was returned to the exact place where I exited from.

Yahoo never did save drafts when connections dropped out.
Sorry Rick, 
I reread your message and realized that it's possible you are operating in an email mode with groups.io.
If this is an email mode issue, it's definitely a software problem at your end.

There is no reason to expect the system to continually poll you once you are disconnected

--

Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Bob Bellizzi
 

While I don't understand how turning off the internet to a computer is useful since, in most cases, you have an intervening router or wifi point and connection to the internet, I guess it might be handy around kids.

Having said that, I have found that I can simply sleep my laptop, even in the middle of composing an email and, when I fire it back up, it brings up at the point I left off.  If it was in the middle of  a compose, that's where I resume with no issue.
Possibly, that's a function of the OS and Google's Chrome browser, but anyway, it's seamless.

Also, since you gave no detail on which revision level of Internetoff you are using,nor what OS platform/rev and what browser & rev, I just reviewed Internetoff's website and rev 3.0 is out and it is supposed to fix the issues with Windows 10.


Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 03:05 PM, Janis wrote:
Photos viewed on the group websites are appearing blurred
I've noticed that photos viewed online will fill the available screen space (to some extent.)  If I look at the actual photo, it's fine.  The fuzziness (pixelation) shows up when the actual is much smaller than the screen.

Duane


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Janis
 

I prefer NOT to have an image tag.  There is no good reason for it in my view.  You could just add the group logo to your own posts if it is important to you.  


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:15 PM, I wrote:
The GMF is a peer - to - peer group of Group Managers, not a Groups.io Managers' Forum.
Oops; mea cupla; wrong group.

More coffee needed. :(

Chris


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:05 PM, Janis wrote:
Can you fix this please?
Sorry; we can't. The GMF is a peer - to - peer group of Group Managers, not a Groups.io Managers' Forum.

Chris


moderated Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Janis
 

Photos viewed on the group websites are appearing blurred.  One of my members who is a photographer asked if the upload process is causing a down res of the photos.  It really does seem to be a resolution problem.  Can you fix this please?  Thanks!  

This is not a resize problem.  We already took care of that issue and checked various photos added to the albums by transfer, computer uoload and email attachment.   Resizing in albums and emsils is turned off.


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Janis
 

Or it will be if you are still online when you begin it.  Yahoo did not save a draft so we lost messages if we left the page.


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Janis
 

I think your message would be saved as a draft automatically at Groups.io..


moderated Re: App beta testers

myles@...
 

Mark, I realize you are not looking for Android testers, but in the case where you want to have it tested on multiple Android platforms, from phone, tablet and even Android TV, I'm up for it.  Just message me off list and I'd be happy to contribute some testing time here.  Sorry, not an iOS user though.

Myles


moderated WEB posting Request.

RickGlaz <rickglaz4742435@...>
 

Lots of OTHER places (on the WEB) let you write a reply to a Group/list message
and then when you hit "Send", the page checks to see if you are still connected
and warns you IF you are not instead of going to a blank page and loosing the reply.

That seems to be part of the sending WEB page, not something I can do anything about
(More about that next...)

I use the InternetOFF program so my computer disconnects every hour or less.
I have to manually check to see if I "timed out" each time I hit send.
The more complex the reply is, the more likely this is to happen...
Others can or will have similar results for entirely different reasons.

I'm guessing this would not be a high priority item, but since it already exists elsewhere,
it might be easy to research and add<?>

RickG