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moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

outlawmws
 

Brian G - did you see where Yahell has extended the time to request a data dump (they give it to you via Zip file)

The trick I found is you have to give a confirmation (basically MFA) before they start.  its slow, but I requested. (Still waiting...) - I'm told you get a dump of every group you have ever been in  (They have not yet deleted the data just taken it off line to the web pages for the groups...)


moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

Brian Garback <brian.garback@...>
 

Mark,

Do you have simple guidance on how to transfer users from Yahoo now? Knowing that the data is all gone.

I missed the deadline for Yahoo.

Thanks a bunch,
Brian


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Bob Bellizzi
 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:18 AM, RickGlaz wrote:
1+1 WEBmail
I've searched for the 1+1 WEBmail but haven't been able to find it.
What will help clarify the issue is
      •  
      • we know you are using a chromebook
      • how are you accessing groups.io
        • via email and if email, what email client software and who is your email provider (domain name e.g. pacificbell.net, aol.com, etc_
        • via a browser and if a browser, which browser
      • is your computer connected by cable or wifi
      • who is your internet service provider (ISP)
      • what kind of broadband connection do you have? 
        • cable or dsl or ?
That, at least might get us into the same general area as you so we could better understand the operation.
I did access that internet program but their website don't tell much about specific functionality, controls, etc.


 
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Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Christos G. Psarras
 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 01:28 PM, Paul Webster wrote:
Situation is that existing members discuss whether or not a new person should join an organisation.
If the vote is split and the person joins then if they have access to the archives then they would also see who did not support their entry.
Paul,

There is a way to do what you want, create an off-the-record subgroup.

1. When the time comes to discuss an applicant, create a private subgroup (not listed in parent group, messages viewable by subgroup members only)
2. Configure the subgroup the way you want it to operate, wide open conversation I guess.
2. Add all parent group members to it.
3. The applicant's acceptance discussions take place strictly on that subgroup only, not on the parent group, strictly enforced.
4. When done, delete the subgroup; no trace left on the group's online archives.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Charlie Behnken wrote:
I heard from someone it was to save bandwidth. 
More likely to save storage space here on Groups.io. With "large" photos 1 GB on a Basic group can be gobbled up rather quickly.

  As photo sharing after an event is one our prime uses of Groups.io, I would really like better quality photos.
What have you got Max Size in Photos Section set to? If photo quality is of major significance then you can set it to No resizing but as suggested above your available storage may / will shrink rather rapidly. Any blurring visible with that setting is down to the original photographer.

Chris


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Charlie Behnken
 

Fully agree that the photo presentation is not up to par.  It is not as good as Yahoo was.  TVs are moving to 4K and 8K.  Desktops and phones have been providing better and better resolution.  Blurry pictures are not what people want.

I heard from someone it was to save bandwidth.  I admit everyone does not have unlimited bandwidth, but unlimited is the trend.  Perhaps a quality option somewhere.  As photo sharing after an event is one our prime uses of Groups.io, I would really like better quality photos.

Charlie

P.S. the download button is not a replacement for a good slide show.


moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

outlawmws
 

He needs to list the group Email or site (groups.io) in his contacts (or equivalent) so as to white list it...


moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

KWKloeber
 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 03:52 PM, Janis wrote:
I had a member using SBCGlobal removed this week from two groups for marking messages as spam. 
Janis there is an important distinction.  The notice doesn't say THE MEMBER marked a message as spam.  It refers to their email provider as reporting to GIO that a message was marked as spam.  It is IMPORTANT that members KNOW/UNDERSTAND why/how it works and TO CHECK their spam boxes for GIO messages and NOT DELETE THEM (or leave them in there when they clear their spam folder.)  That's when they get reported and the member gets unsubscribed.
Members have a propensity to NOT read the messages -- one complained that he was unsubscribed for SENDING spam,  Sheesh, read much?


moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

Janis
 

Just an FYI
I had a member using SBCGlobal removed this week from two groups for marking messages as spam.  He says he did not mark any messages as spa m and is unhappy about being removed.  So far he has not found any notifications from Groups.io with links to resubscribe.  Maybe sbcglobal did not deliver the notifications.  He only found out when I emailed him to ask if he still wants to be in the groups.  He does, but has not found the notices with the resub links!

At this point I am not sure they would deliver an invite either!


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Charles Roberts
 

Makes sense to me!

Chuck

On Dec 20, 2019 2:29 PM, Janis <jhurstartist@...> wrote:
I do not want large attachments sent to my group and would like a way to set a limit so that any email with a large attachment bounces back to the sender with a notice thst the attachment is too large.  I moderate attachments but do not want to bother with rejecting the large files.  Would prefer them to be bounced before I see them.


moderated Small tweak in the Calendar

Don Pottenger
 

We use the calendar extensively in our group so we create new events all the time. It would be very helpful after picking a starting time (and the default end time shifts to 1 hour later) that when we click on the end time that it does not go back to 12:00am. How about leaving the end time at the +1 hour after the start time and let me scroll down from there? Having had to just rebuild all our Yahoo calendar events by hand the past couple of weeks this feature would have been very useful to me.

Thanks for your consideration.
Don Pottenger
Owner VillasofAda


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Janis
 

I do not want large attachments sent to my group and would like a way to set a limit so that any email with a large attachment bounces back to the sender with a notice thst the attachment is too large.  I moderate attachments but do not want to bother with rejecting the large files.  Would prefer them to be bounced before I see them.


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Charles Roberts
 

Been doing this for years on Yahoo....works well.

Chuck

On Dec 20, 2019 12:38 PM, "Christos G. Psarras" <christos@...> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 04:31 AM, Glenn wrote:
Large attachments have their place for some groups.

My suggestion for something like this, i.e. a useful and very large file that is of benefit to the whole group, is to place it in the Files (or Photos, depending on file type), then include the link to it in the email; if it helps, include a small preview of that file in the message.  Then folks can download it if they want to; with files, it's the direct link to the file and clicking it (or right-click-SaveAs) will open or save the file, with photos one has to follw the link first to open up the group's Photos, then they can download it from there.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Paul Webster
 

+1 from me for this

Situation is that existing members discuss whether or not a new person should join an organisation.
If the vote is split and the person joins then if they have access to the archives then they would also see who did not support their entry.

Today those discussions happen on YG with archiving turned off.
Moving over to groups.io to regain access to shared files area etc is hindered by not having easy way to restrict archiving.
If automatic locking after 1 day completely hides the content then that could be OK.


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Christos G. Psarras
 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 04:31 AM, Glenn wrote:
Large attachments have their place for some groups.

My suggestion for something like this, i.e. a useful and very large file that is of benefit to the whole group, is to place it in the Files (or Photos, depending on file type), then include the link to it in the email; if it helps, include a small preview of that file in the message.  Then folks can download it if they want to; with files, it's the direct link to the file and clicking it (or right-click-SaveAs) will open or save the file, with photos one has to follw the link first to open up the group's Photos, then they can download it from there.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

RickGlaz <rickglaz4742435@...>
 

Sorry, no quoting needed...
My last message should have stated more clearly that was when trying to
compose from the 1+1, AKA IONOS WEBsite Webmail page.
That would be a good feature here.

Rick


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

RickGlaz <rickglaz4742435@...>
 

This might help at least understanding, this is what I see.
The minute I "loose" my connection the orange bottom warning comes on and stays.
That is enough to keep me out of trouble there and not loose the message.
When I hit send, (ignoring the bottom warning),
I get the second white boxed pop-up.
With a chance to connect, etc...
Slick, but not much use for people "always" connected.
Thanks for reading this. Rick



moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

RickGlaz <rickglaz4742435@...>
 

Thanks to everyone that replied, especially Bob for the testing.

It is admittedly a problem I cause myself, and there is no draft
being saved do to the timing of the disconnect. (bummer)

I'll watch for sites that do this differently and report back where
this is handled in a more user friendly way. 

Then it might be a lot clearer when people can hopefully see
the "detection of connection" work as described.

I believe the 1+1 WEBmail hosting does that but it needs
an account to see it.

I'll start testing to see if someplace more publicly accessible is around.
Thanks for your help and considering a solution.

Rick
Sent from a ChromeBook

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 06:52 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
Rick,
To test this issue, I started typing the message below and then cut off the wifi after the last word below.
I then terminated the instance of chrome that I was using to type my message online.
I waited 10 seconds and then reconnected the laptop wifi to the access point and
I then opened a new tab in Chrome (I had left Chrome running when I killed the wifi)
I reentered groups.io and selected Beta group.
Then I looked at my top draft of 8 outstanding and it was the message you see below
I selected it and was returned to the exact place where I exited from.

Yahoo never did save drafts when connections dropped out.
Sorry Rick, 
I reread your message and realized that it's possible you are operating in an email mode with groups.io.
If this is an email mode issue, it's definitely a software problem at your end.

There is no reason to expect the system to continually poll you once you are disconnected

--

Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Sent Invitations list has inconsistent results when sorted

Duane
 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 03:17 AM, Glenn wrote:
So ask for help at GMF, report bugs to support@groups.io, and request new features here?
Those are the preferred options.  We sometimes hash over possible new features on GMF in an attempt to nail down what's needed and avoid clutter here, but starting here is also acceptable I believe.  (For Premium groups, the new Feature Request site can be used, https://groupsio.canny.io/, also see https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/23137)  If a bug is easily reproduced, going directly to support is best.  It doesn't hurt to ask about them on GMF, in case someone has a temporary work-around to get you by until it's fixed.

Duane


moderated Re: More attachment size selections requested

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 09:31 AM, Glenn wrote:
Do they get a bounce notification? Or does that only go to adminsitrators? How would they even know the message exists, if it bounces?
Glenn; if an email user is sent an attachment that exceeds their mail provider's limit then the provider is liable to bounce it; the user will get no notification at all, and a group owner.moderator will only know about the bounce if they search for it on the individual user's email delivery record. 

By setting a maximum attachment size a user tells Groups.io not to send attachments to them that exceed that setting but to send a link so that the user can go and find it for themselves. Duane's setting of "0" means that every attachment appears as a link, and it is a perfectly acceptable setting.

Like Duane I am at a loss to see why "huge" attachments should be required, and there is a potential major downside to them. There are occasions when mail providers more or less refuse to play nicely with Groups.io, and with a great deal of traffic once generated by Yahoo (groups) now being sent by Groups.io it hands a ready - made excuse to mail providers to start bouncing more of it. Once that starts then users will find themselves getting no traffic whatsoever, not just getting large attachments bounced. I would argue that that would be a significantly greater inconvenience than just having to click a link in an email to find an attachment.

Chris