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moderated Ability to send later from web interface #suggestion

Robert Kingett
 

I would like the ability to write new topics now, but schedule them for posting at a certain date and time. I know this can be done using email services, but I use the website a lot because the composer allows for markdown.
moderated Re: Missing Digest #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:31 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
If we had a digest during the day because we were active, we always got an early morning digest with the remaining messages of the previous day.  It has always worked that way since we moved to groups.io in October---with the exception of the other day.
My guess is that there simply were no messages remaining to be sent. If nothing has been posted to the group in the interval between the previous 12-message digest and when the nightly job runs, groups.io does not generate and send an empty digest.

Bruce
moderated Re: Missing Digest #bug

Mark Fletcher
 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:48 PM Ann Wild via Groups.Io <annlwild=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yesterday (Wednesday) we got an early digest because we were busy at 8:36 PM EST, but we never received the 3 AM digest on Thursday morning.  We always get that early AM digest.  Instead, just now we got a digest at 6:07 PM EST, which included the messages that should have been sent out early this morning.  This is the first time this has happened.  I hope it won't be repeated because it delays the posting of messages.

My guess is that there was less than 6 hours between the 8:36pm EST digest and when we started the 10:30pm PST forcing digest run.

Please also see the message I just posted about digest changes.

Thanks,
Mark
moderated Digest change #update

Mark Fletcher
 

Hi All,

Digests are generated for every 12 messages sent to a group. That has not changed. Digests were also generated at 10:30pm Pacific Time nightly, if one had not been generated in the previous 6 hours and messages had been sent to the group since the last digest. I've just changed that to behave more like summary emails. Now, we force a digest to be created at 6am local time for each subscriber, based on their timezone, if a digest had not been generated in the previous 6 hours and messages had been sent to the group since the last digest.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks, Mark
moderated Re: Missing Digest #bug

Ann Wild
 

Sorry for my mistake.  I know each digest has 12 messages, not 20.  But my question remains.
moderated Re: Missing Digest #bug

Ann Wild
 

I don't understand your reply and searched the wiki to see if I have missed something.  The digest options for our group are two: full featured digest and summary.  The digest bundles topics (the list shows the topics and the number of messages on each topic in parentheses), and when the total number of messages reaches 20, we get a digest immediately that shows all 20 messages.  If we had a digest during the day because we were active, we always got an early morning digest with the remaining messages of the previous day.  It has always worked that way since we moved to groups.io in October---with the exception of the other day.  The summary is a list of messages posted once a day.  I don't see the various options for the digest that you mention.
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 09:28 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
However, when hiding, say, the ID column only the ID’s on the current page are hidden.  If you select another page, the ID’s show until they’re hidden and so on with each page.
Peter,

I'm not seeing that.  The hidden columns stay hidden on all pages, whether I hide them by default or while looking at the table.  Of course they come back the next time I open it unless I've changed the table properties.

Duane
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Peter Rawbone
 

I do like the ability to hide!
However, when hiding, say, the ID column only the ID’s on the current page are hidden.  If you select another page, the ID’s show until they’re hidden and so on with each page.  It would be nice if the column selected to be hidden applied to all pages.  We have in excess of 14 pages - so far!

Mark - any ideas??!!
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Peter
moderated Re: Missing Digest #bug

Duane
 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 05:48 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
Yesterday (Wednesday) we got an early digest because we were busy at 8:36 PM EST, but we never received the 3 AM digest on Thursday morning.  We always get that early AM digest.  Instead, just now we got a digest at 6:07 PM EST, which included the messages that should have been sent out early this morning.  This is the first time this has happened.
Probably by design.  It sounds to me like you may not understand how the digests work.  Not everyone will get a digest at the same time.  It all depends on which messages they choose to receive in it (first, following, etc.)  Someone that chooses to only get the first message of each topic may only get the 'forced' digest.  Someone that chooses to receive all messages may get 2 or 3 digests in the same time frame.  It's also been stated that there's a timing function so that if someone has received a digest recently, another one won't be sent at the (current) 10:30 pm PST job (though 'recently' hasn't been defined as far as I know.)  The only way to be sure you get all messages at some known time is to receive all individual messages.  Then you should receive them shortly after they are posted.  Mark has mentioned previously that he may change the 'force' time, but hasn't so far.  Even that won't change the fact that you may not get a digest at a specific time.

Duane
moderated Re: Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion

Bill Burns
 

Google calendar is similar. You just create a monthly event on the appropriate day in the current month (today is the last Wednesday in February, for example), and it provides the two choices shown in the attached screencap.

Bill

On 27-Feb-20 1:47 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
Mark,
Yahoo simply allowed “repeat monthly” and “last Tuesday” as an option
Dave
*From:*main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Mark Fletcher
*Sent:* 27 February 2020 18:05
*To:* main@beta.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [beta] Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:25 PM <webminder@w4bfb.org <mailto:webminder@w4bfb.org>> wrote:
I have an event that is held on the last Tuesday of every month, but
unfortunately, I cannot create a repeating event to cover the entire
year because the options to repeat currently are on the number'd day
of the month, or the same week of every month (ex: 4th Tuesday of
the month).  Some months may have 4 weeks with that day of the week,
while others may have 5.
How would you change the interface to allow specifying this?
Thanks,
Mark
moderated Missing Digest #bug

Ann Wild
 

Yesterday (Wednesday) we got an early digest because we were busy at 8:36 PM EST, but we never received the 3 AM digest on Thursday morning.  We always get that early AM digest.  Instead, just now we got a digest at 6:07 PM EST, which included the messages that should have been sent out early this morning.  This is the first time this has happened.  I hope it won't be repeated because it delays the posting of messages.
moderated Re: Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 09:24 PM, <webminder@...> wrote:
I cannot create a repeating event to cover the entire year because the options to repeat currently are on the number'd day of the month, or the same week of every month (ex: 4th Tuesday of the month). 
You can achieve this with a bit of playing around.  Here are the steps I used for something similar (working from today's date):

  • Create an event on Tuesday March 24th (that's the 4th Tuesday - trust me)
  • Set the following: Repeats: Monthly; Repeat every: 1; Repeat by day of the week
  • Save the event
  • Go through the calendar and for any event that is not on the last Tuesday:
  • Edit the event and change the date to the last Tuesday (March, June, September & December)
  • Click the Update Event button and select on this event.
Any event where you change the date is effectively taken out of the repeating series so if you need to update any other details, you need to do them individually.

Hopefully this helps until we get a better solution.

Andy
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Mark Fletcher
 

Hi All,

This all should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Duane
 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:48 PM, Andy W wrote:
I've checked both boxes to hide the ID and Updated columns but they still show when I view my database.
Looks to me like it's only removing the headers, not the actual column contents.

Duane
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 07:48 PM, Andy W wrote:
I've checked both boxes to hide the ID and Updated columns but they still show when I view my database.

As an aside, when in list mode,the column header for the Updated column is missing.
It's a bit more complex than what I thought was a missing column header.

In Map View, all columns are show despite the ID and Updated columns having the hidden checkbox set. All column buttons at the bottom are blue.

In List View, the ID and Updated values are still show on the screen, but the column headings are not. The ID and Updated columns buttons at the bottom are greyed out.  As the ID column header is not displayed so the others are shifted left by one column so everything is out of line.

Andy
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 06:50 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:07 PM, Duane wrote:

Would it be possible to include the ID and Updated columns to be hidden?

Done.

Cheers, Mark

I've checked both boxes to hide the ID and Updated columns but they still show when I view my database.

As an aside, when in list mode,the column header for the Updated column is missing.

Andy
moderated Re: Default database view #done #suggestion

Mark Fletcher
 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:07 PM, Duane wrote:

Would it be possible to include the ID and Updated columns to be hidden?

Done.

Cheers, Mark
moderated Re: Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion

Dave Wade
 

Mark,

Yahoo simply allowed “repeat monthly” and “last Tuesday” as an option

Dave

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: 27 February 2020 18:05
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:25 PM <webminder@...> wrote:

I have an event that is held on the last Tuesday of every month, but unfortunately, I cannot create a repeating event to cover the entire year because the options to repeat currently are on the number'd day of the month, or the same week of every month (ex: 4th Tuesday of the month).  Some months may have 4 weeks with that day of the week, while others may have 5.

How would you change the interface to allow specifying this?

 

Thanks,

Mark 
moderated Re: Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:05:15 -0000, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:25 PM <webminder@...> wrote:

I have an event that is held on the last Tuesday of every month, but unfortunately, I cannot create a repeating event to cover the entire year because the options to repeat currently are on the number'd day of the month, or the same week of every month (ex: 4th Tuesday of the month).  Some months may have 4 weeks with that day of the week, while others may have 5.

How would you change the interface to allow specifying this?
I don't remember where but I have seen it done programatically by allowing the 5th Xday to be chosen and then interpreting it as the 4th when there is no 5th.

Malcolm.

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Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...>
moderated Re: Calendar: Allow "Last [day of week] of month" for repeating events #suggestion

Mark Fletcher
 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:25 PM <webminder@...> wrote:

I have an event that is held on the last Tuesday of every month, but unfortunately, I cannot create a repeating event to cover the entire year because the options to repeat currently are on the number'd day of the month, or the same week of every month (ex: 4th Tuesday of the month).  Some months may have 4 weeks with that day of the week, while others may have 5.

How would you change the interface to allow specifying this?

Thanks,
Mark 
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