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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Dave Sergeant
 

This type of unsubscribe request fails if the email program adds a
signature to postings, like mine do. Some email lists recognise 'stop'
after the 'unsubscribe' as a command to ignore everything that follows.

eg

unsubscribe
stop

Fred Blogs site link

Dave

On 7 Nov 2020 at 9:04, JohnF via groups.io wrote:

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:


NEW: If you send a message with just the word 'unsubscribe' and
nothing else to a group, we now treat it as an unsubscribe request,
like sending a message to +unsubscribe (still requires confirmation).
As long as you confirm it, you might want to do the same thing if
someone sends the word "stop". This isn't traditionally used in
stopping email lists, but it has become standard in stopping SMS lists.
Someone who is more used to texting than joining email lists might try
that. (I don't have any real life examples of someone who did, just
thinking ahead.)

JohnF

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:


NEW: If you send a message with just the word 'unsubscribe' and nothing else
to a group, we now treat it as an unsubscribe request, like sending a message
to +unsubscribe (still requires confirmation).
As long as you confirm it, you might want to do the same thing if someone sends the word "stop". This isn't traditionally used in stopping email lists, but it has become standard in stopping SMS lists. Someone who is more used to texting than joining email lists might try that. (I don't have any real life examples of someone who did, just thinking ahead.)

JohnF


moderated Re: Bad link in confirmation email #bug

Duane
 

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 09:04 AM, Curt Gowan wrote:
When I looked closely at the confirmation email, I saw that the link was 
mailto:Curt-Test@groups.io
-- in other words, causing the applicant to submit a post to a group that they are not yet a member of.
I don't believe this is a bug, nor should it be changed.  Some groups allow posts by non-members.  Anyone that follows the instructions won't have a problem. ;>)

Duane


moderated Same bug in Unsubscribe confirmation email. #bug

 

As one would expect from a well-organized developer, same bug in the
"Confirm Your Groups.io Unsubscribe Request" email.
The canned emails are very friendly and clear, BTW.
Thanks,
--cg
 


moderated Bad link in confirmation email #bug

 

1. Using a different gmail account from the account used to set up a test group called Curt-Test, I sent an note to Curt-Test+subscribe@groups.io 

2. Got this reply
"Confirm Your Groups.io Subscription. 
Thank you for your interest in Groups.io and the group Curt-Test@groups.io. To complete your subscription, please reply to this email.
If you did not request - or do not want - a subscription to this group, please accept our apologies and ignore this message.
Cheers,
The Groups.io Team"

3. Ignored the instructions and clicked on the link, which sent a note to the group.  

4. Got this response from Gmail:
"Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Message not delivered
Your message couldn't be delivered to Curt-Test@groups.io because the remote server is misconfigured. See technical details below for more information.
The response from the remote server was:
510 5.1.1 Your email address, <redacted>@gmail.com, is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to Curt-Test+subscribe@groups.io, or visit https://groups.io/g/Curt-Test "

5. When I ignored the link and sent a reply to the Confirmation email, it worked fine.
The address in the reply was tagged:
"Groups.io" <Curt-Test+subscribe+939633873206536861+5163825@groups.io>

Issue:
When I looked closely at the confirmation email, I saw that the link was 
mailto:Curt-Test@groups.io
-- in other words, causing the applicant to submit a post to a group that they are not yet a member of.

Suggested fix:
The mailto link provided in a confirmation email should have been 
Curt-Test+subscribe+939633873206536861+5163825@groups.io
-- i.e. matching the reply address built into the confirmation email.

Thanks!
--cg
 


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • DOCS: Updates from Nina.
  • CHANGE: Login links in direct add emails now expire after 24 hours, to match the time frame we use when sending a login link.
  • BUGFIX: If there's only one photo album, disable the Move button when viewing a photo.
  • NEW: If you send a message with just the word 'unsubscribe' and nothing else to a group, we now treat it as an unsubscribe request, like sending a message to +unsubscribe (still requires confirmation).
  • BUGFIX: When following a topic, we send out all existing messages. We were not adding the group subject tag to the messages.
  • NEW: On the /topic and /message pages, there now is a Follow/Unfollow/Mute/Unmute button.
  • CHANGE: Changed 'Reason' column title in the Past Members page to 'History'.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated billing showis nonzero amount of space used for "database images" but we have no database #misc

 

Our group used to have a Cats database and we eventually got rid of it. Our Database tab shows "no tables." Yet under Billing, we are still being dec'd by some amount of space for "Database Images." Maybe this is a bug, or maybe it's space used for a setup that exists in every group even if there is no database yet, but either way, it sure looks weird. Also, if it's the latter, I don't think that space should come out of the allocated allowable space if the group doesn't use the feature.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Archive PremiumS #suggestion

 

Bill,

If a list is falling back to Free from Premium... and might not like it, they may take 30 days to really discuss it, and 30 to act.
So maybe Archive their SubGroups etc, while allowing to see but no access, or perhaps as a teaser, no access but Read Only.

You can simulate downgrading a free group by selectively (depending on when the group was created) locking features down so folks cannot send attachments, upload files, etc, something that simulates being right up the 1 GB used space.  That will give them a taste of how things will be with a 1 GB limit!

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Archive PremiumS #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:07 AM, billsf9c wrote:
If a list is falling back to Free from Premium
All covered nicely in the Owners Manual.

Duane


moderated Re: Archive PremiumS #suggestion

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:07 AM billsf9c via groups.io <OOWONBS=Netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:
Just a thought...

If a list is falling back to Free from Premium... and might not like it, they may take 30 days to really discuss it, and 30 to act.

So maybe Archive their SubGroups etc, while allowing to see but no access, or perhaps as a teaser, no access but Read Only.

If a group loses subgroups because of the downgrade, the subgroups are locked, not deleted. You can still see the archives, but it's all read-only.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Groups.io instead of Mailchimp #misc

 

I approved this message by mistake. This is more appropriate for GMF and not beta.

Thanks,
Mark


On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:39 AM Steve <steveoglesby@...> wrote:
Has anyone tried using Groups.io instead of apps like Mailchimp? Obviously not for marketing, but maybe announcements only? Are there advantages to using this platform over the usual email apps?

Best regards,
Steve Oglesby


moderated Groups.io instead of Mailchimp #misc

Steve
 

Has anyone tried using Groups.io instead of apps like Mailchimp? Obviously not for marketing, but maybe announcements only? Are there advantages to using this platform over the usual email apps?

Best regards,
Steve Oglesby


moderated Archive PremiumS #suggestion

billsf9c
 

Just a thought...

If a list is falling back to Free from Premium... and might not like it, they may take 30 days to really discuss it, and 30 to act.

So maybe Archive their SubGroups etc, while allowing to see but no access, or perhaps as a teaser, no access but Read Only.

And SubGroups is my best example at this early pre-coffee hour. It might apply to other lost teatures.

Once these are "lost-forever," they may force themselves, in a foul mood, to live within Free. But if they can get them back within 60 or 90 days, voille. I had originally thought -30 days. But groups are ships and they turn slowly.

BillSF9c


moderated Publicly Listed Groups results #bug

Duane
 

When paging through the results of the various views in the groups directory, there comes a point when it won't show the next page.  It always happens when crossing over the 10,000 results line.  As an example, if I go to https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,9980,0, all works fine.  When I scroll to the bottom and use the right arrow to go to page 501, there are no results shown, even though it (currently) says 10001 - 10020 of 32031 and the URL shows https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,10000,0.  I suspect it's when the results get into the 5 digit range.  Probably not something many people will do, but it's a bit irritating when I'm playing with search parameters there. ;>)

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

Yeah, it came in handy for this; the Online Follow everywhere ability had been asked a few times before, so your post pushed it off the table and into the done basket. :D


On 2020-11-05 23:24, J_Catlady via groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 08:02 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
Thanks to J as well for finally pushing it over the table edge :)
Did you say that because I'm Catlady? Cats are always pushing things off the edge of tables. ;)


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 08:02 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
Thanks to J as well for finally pushing it over the table edge :)
Did you say that because I'm Catlady? Cats are always pushing things off the edge of tables. ;)
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

Mark, many thanks for adding this, it makes following groups online a lot faster and easier!

Thanks to J as well for finally pushing it over the table edge :)

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Summary email has subject "digestnoreply" #bug

 

One last note on this, for anyone on an iPhone: It turns out that ios 14.1 fixes the "sends from wrong email address" bug. The bug was in 14.0. However, the fix results in the "name" part of the email being left out of emails from donotreply mass emails. That was the original source of my post here. The wrong-from-address occurred the day before and I noticed it in the morning.

Anyway, end of story except that on iPhones, summary and digest messages from groups.io now have strange-looking from addresses, by virtue of lacking the name of the group they're about.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Database ordering and datetime field #suggestion

Chris Smith
 

A date time field would be a handy feature for the database for a use case we have: we need to add entries for past events that occurred at a specific date and time, we then need to display the entries ordered from oldest to latest date & time.

Either that, or some way to link the existing date & time fields together for sorting purposes?

It would also be nice to be able to set a field as the default sort order for display purposes.

Chris


moderated Re: Wording to disable two-factor (2FA) #suggestion

Jeff Smith
 

Concerning my original suggestion, I don't mind if you added "(NOT your OTP)" however my point is to not say any more in the label than what needs to be entered in that text field. I was mistaken because I quickly saw the words "Two-Factor Authentication" and to me that confirmed it was asking for the OTP same as all my other sites I was removing it from.

Who knows maybe someone else cannot understand what you need unless you also add all the things it does not need, but that was not my problem.
Bruce Bowman said:
> How about "Enter Your Password (NOT your OTP)"

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