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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 06:35 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I made a mistake and forgot to remove that from the list before I posted it.If it was just a mistake then no problem. At least we understand the discrepancy between the changelog and what actually changed. Hopefully the changes to the homepage and the Zoom integration can be rolled out shortly. Many thanks, Andy
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote: I've seen the previous discussions on the hompage changes and the recent release and rollback of the zoom integration. I am still perplexed by the fact that these changes were included in the changelog when in fact they had not been released. How many of the others in this week's list are like this? (Many snarky responses typed and deleted). I made a mistake and forgot to remove that from the list before I posted it. Mark
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Re: Digest generation problem
#bug
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 04:12 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Is anyone else encountering missing messages in digests?I think I've received a couple of "digests" containing only a single message in the past week.
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 04:24 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've seen the previous discussions on the hompage changes and the recent release and rollback of the zoom integration. I am still perplexed by the fact that these changes were included in the changelog when in fact they had not been released. How many of the others in this week's list are like this? I'd like to see the homepage changes on my group and we will certainly make use of the Zoom integration once it is approved. Andy
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:43 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 04:58 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: The new home page is still only on beta and a couple other groups. I'd like to roll it out everywhere, but when I proposed that awhile ago, there was ... consternation. I would still like to roll it out everywhere because I think it's a superior experience. I will probably enable it for all new groups starting next week. The homepage(s) look the same as before (they don't look like beta) and I don't see an option to define a new calendar event as a Zoom meeting. I had to turn it off when I realized it only worked for my Zoom account until I had it approved by Zoom. That process is on-going. Mark
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Re: GIO in the long term
Under the heading of "there are no guarantees in life," I'd add that Google has shuttered (or marginalized) well over a hundred services. And some are on life support. If they decide groups doesn't support their core business, it'll likely be gone. Whatever you choose, I'd make sure it gives you the ability to export the content in the event you need to migrate again.
Pete
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
Hi Andy,
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My understanding of „new group home page“ is that this change is only applied to new groups - i.e. any groups created from today onwards. I can imagine that some group owners wouldn‘t want their existing home pages to be changed automatically. Let‘s see what Mark says. Thomas
Am 04.04.2020 um 14:05 schrieb Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...>:
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 12:27 PM, Duane wrote:
No, it doesn't. It says the change was made to "the new group home page" which hasn't been rolled out to any group other than beta.The way it reads to me is that the change has been rolled out so that it now looks the same as beta. If it is just a change to beta, I don't see the point on including that on a general release note which is also posted on the Updates group which is the 'Official announcement group for updates to the Groups.io service' (taken from the group homepage) and has 1.25 million members. Purely from a business point of view, it doesn't make sense to do that. In the past, other changes have been made just on beta and those of us in the group have had chance to test them before they are rolled out to all and included on the changelog. Andy
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 05:56 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
But that's precisely what the changelog says has happened. If it hasn't, why is it in the changelog?No, it doesn't. It says the change was made to "the new group home page" which hasn't been rolled out to any group other than beta. It's available on the beta group so we can see what it looks like and test it here. Duane
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:00 AM, Duane wrote:
It hasn't been rolled out to all groups yet.But that's precisely what the changelog says has happened. If it hasn't, why is it in the changelog? Andy
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 01:43 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
I'm seeing no evidence of these changes on my group/subgroups. The homepage(s) look the same as before (they don't look like beta)Since June of last year, beta is the only group that has the home page redesign, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/32057590 It hasn't been rolled out to all groups yet. Duane
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 04:58 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi Mark, I'm seeing no evidence of these changes on my group/subgroups. The homepage(s) look the same as before (they don't look like beta) and I don't see an option to define a new calendar event as a Zoom meeting. Regards, Andy
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Site updates
#changelog
Changes to the site this week:
Take care everyone. Mark
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Re: Digest generation problem
#bug
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:32 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote: Mark -- I received Digest #1610 for GMF at 10:46 PM EDT last night, containing 12 messages #30894-30905. No problem. I've spent all afternoon trying to track this down, and frustratingly I don't have an answer yet. Something happened to those 7 messages between the times you sent two messages at 9:33pm and 9:49pm pacific time. I'm still investigating. Is anyone else encountering missing messages in digests? Thanks, Mark
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Digest generation problem
#bug
Mark -- I received Digest #1610 for GMF at 10:46 PM EDT last night, containing 12 messages #30894-30905. No problem.
This morning at 6 AM, I received Digest #1611 with a single message in it...#30913. The intervening 7 messages #30906-30912 were never emailed to me. FYI, Bruce
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Re: GIO in the long term
Bob Bellizzi
You replied to an old thread and I fail to understand what "like to be ahead on this issue" actually means to you.
-- Bob Bellizzi
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Re: GIO in the long term
John Wirtz SF
Well I am already a premium customer and though I am in favour of paying for the service as long as visible support exists, I think it would be slicker with an integrated tables facilities.
The main reason for our organisation to go for this kind of group is that it delivers message direct to the member’s inbox. And all members have the option to respond for all to see. I like this type of openness and we’ve had a group for nearly twenty years and only a very small handful of behaviour issues. AND ONE CAN KEEP IT PRIVATE.
But, I have more pressing things to do than maintain my messaging system beyond the essential matters. So, easing routine maintenance task such as member management would be very welcome.
Cheers
John Wirtz
From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io>
On Behalf Of SP4149
Sent: 01 April 2020 20:19 To: main@beta.groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] GIO in the long term
Last fall it was mentioned that large lists would have to upgrade to Premium, based on the number of subscribers. Then the issue was suspended during the YG meltdown.
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Re: GIO in the long term
Last fall it was mentioned that large lists would have to upgrade to Premium, based on the number of subscribers. Then the issue was suspended during the YG meltdown.
I have several lists considering upgrades to Premium. I would like to be ahead on this issue, avoiding an "Oh, by the way" surprise. ken
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Re: Markdown Support
#suggestion
Yes!
Too true, unfortunately. So pretty low on the scale of things to do I'm sure.
Still can with Gmail and Outlook. But those days may be numbered! sigh. Markdown has become the preferred format for many geeks, particularly those still using a plain text email client. As such, perhaps this is a problem better solved locally at the email client side. That is, compose in Markdown and have your own client do the filtering into HTML before sending it out the door. But know this -- I appreciate the support already added to this platform. Thanks!
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Re: Zoom integration now active
#update
An update: it turns out I need to have Zoom approve the integration for their marketplace before it can be active (I don't need it to be in their marketplace, but whatever). I hope this will happen in the next few days; I'll keep you posted. Thanks, Mark
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