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moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Bob Bellizzi
 

Rick,
To test this issue, I started typing the message below and then cut off the wifi after the last word below.
I then terminated the instance of chrome that I was using to type my message online.
I waited 10 seconds and then reconnected the laptop wifi to the access point and
I then opened a new tab in Chrome (I had left Chrome running when I killed the wifi)
I reentered groups.io and selected Beta group.
Then I looked at my top draft of 8 outstanding and it was the message you see below
I selected it and was returned to the exact place where I exited from.

Yahoo never did save drafts when connections dropped out.
Sorry Rick, 
I reread your message and realized that it's possible you are operating in an email mode with groups.io.
If this is an email mode issue, it's definitely a software problem at your end.

There is no reason to expect the system to continually poll you once you are disconnected

--

Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Bob Bellizzi
 

While I don't understand how turning off the internet to a computer is useful since, in most cases, you have an intervening router or wifi point and connection to the internet, I guess it might be handy around kids.

Having said that, I have found that I can simply sleep my laptop, even in the middle of composing an email and, when I fire it back up, it brings up at the point I left off.  If it was in the middle of  a compose, that's where I resume with no issue.
Possibly, that's a function of the OS and Google's Chrome browser, but anyway, it's seamless.

Also, since you gave no detail on which revision level of Internetoff you are using,nor what OS platform/rev and what browser & rev, I just reviewed Internetoff's website and rev 3.0 is out and it is supposed to fix the issues with Windows 10.


Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 03:05 PM, Janis wrote:
Photos viewed on the group websites are appearing blurred
I've noticed that photos viewed online will fill the available screen space (to some extent.)  If I look at the actual photo, it's fine.  The fuzziness (pixelation) shows up when the actual is much smaller than the screen.

Duane


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Janis
 

I prefer NOT to have an image tag.  There is no good reason for it in my view.  You could just add the group logo to your own posts if it is important to you.  


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:15 PM, I wrote:
The GMF is a peer - to - peer group of Group Managers, not a Groups.io Managers' Forum.
Oops; mea cupla; wrong group.

More coffee needed. :(

Chris


moderated Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:05 PM, Janis wrote:
Can you fix this please?
Sorry; we can't. The GMF is a peer - to - peer group of Group Managers, not a Groups.io Managers' Forum.

Chris


moderated Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing #done

Janis
 

Photos viewed on the group websites are appearing blurred.  One of my members who is a photographer asked if the upload process is causing a down res of the photos.  It really does seem to be a resolution problem.  Can you fix this please?  Thanks!  

This is not a resize problem.  We already took care of that issue and checked various photos added to the albums by transfer, computer uoload and email attachment.   Resizing in albums and emsils is turned off.


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Janis
 

Or it will be if you are still online when you begin it.  Yahoo did not save a draft so we lost messages if we left the page.


moderated Re: WEB posting Request.

Janis
 

I think your message would be saved as a draft automatically at Groups.io..


moderated Re: App beta testers

myles@...
 

Mark, I realize you are not looking for Android testers, but in the case where you want to have it tested on multiple Android platforms, from phone, tablet and even Android TV, I'm up for it.  Just message me off list and I'd be happy to contribute some testing time here.  Sorry, not an iOS user though.

Myles


moderated WEB posting Request.

RickGlaz <rickglaz4742435@...>
 

Lots of OTHER places (on the WEB) let you write a reply to a Group/list message
and then when you hit "Send", the page checks to see if you are still connected
and warns you IF you are not instead of going to a blank page and loosing the reply.

That seems to be part of the sending WEB page, not something I can do anything about
(More about that next...)

I use the InternetOFF program so my computer disconnects every hour or less.
I have to manually check to see if I "timed out" each time I hit send.
The more complex the reply is, the more likely this is to happen...
Others can or will have similar results for entirely different reasons.

I'm guessing this would not be a high priority item, but since it already exists elsewhere,
it might be easy to research and add<?>

RickG


moderated Re: App beta testers

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- Is there going to be a desktop app, or just mobile?

Bruce


moderated App beta testers

 

Hi All,

The app is nearing version 1.0 and I think it's about ready for some beta testing. The app works on both iOS and Android, but for this testing phase, I'm only looking for people with iOS devices. If you are interested in playing with it and giving feedback, please let me know off-list. Also, it is not currently accessible, but it will be before launch; if you rely on a screen reader, please wait until the app supports it before applying to test.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Testing new feature request/tracking system

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:04 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
my comment, which said that the feature you requested already exists,
Per a discussion with Shane on the canny site, I have seen that his requested feature is for searchability, not access, of the member directory, and does not already exist. Also, we are in agreement that the canny site is working really well!
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Terry Slattery
 

On 12/17/19 10:02 AM, Scott Thayer wrote:
The whole exchange about Subject Tags is beyond my ken, but seems to be relevant to the Inbox organization point rather than the aesthetic one.
Scott,
While Subject Tags can be used to organize messages into separate sub-boxes, it is a simple visual indicator of the group the message is from. I'm not sure why that isn't sufficient for your purpose.

Relative to adding an image, one of my groups has members who are in international locations that have very low and expensive bandwidth. These are on remote islands or in countries with poor (i.e., very slow) Internet access. Adding pictures to each message would not be good for them. While an image tag might be optional, I'm not sure how it would be better than the present Subject Tag.

-Terry (new to this list and to groups.io)


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Scott Thayer
 

Thanks for all the comments.  As a newbie, every posting expands my knowledge/comprehension of this new Groups adventure.  

My motivation is largely aesthetic, which of course yields to practical concerns, and my interest is more directed at my members (who are generally even less tech-savvy than me).  A few replies, if I may:
  • Yes, one can set up auto-file to put messages into sub-Inboxes.  Personally, I find that counter-productive and I abandoned that practice years ago.  Burying incoming mail, especially off-screen where I have to scroll down to see if anything is there, is a time-sink, and I can't tell you the number of times that I've been told "Oh, I didn't notice your message in that sub-box."  I read or otherwise purge incoming emails several times a day, keeping my Inbox to a minimum and largely focused on current action items.  (And have Gmail as the ultimate backup if needed)
  • I appreciate Ken's point about server space, which hadn't occurred to me.  I note, however, that photos of individual users appear in messages (3 so far in this discussion), which suggests that is not a major concern.  
  • The whole exchange about Subject Tags is beyond my ken, but seems to be relevant to the Inbox organization point rather than the aesthetic one.  
  • Perhaps the default cover photo could be elephants and donkeys together?  :-) 
Again, thanks.  


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Michael Pavan
 

On Dec 16, 2019, at 6:14 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 03:52 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
I don't think this is possible as the Subject Tag is determined by the Group Email Address
Actually, the Subject Tag can be anything you want. A lot of groups use the group name or email address, but others don't. The GroupManagersForum uses [GMF] for the Subject Tag.
OK, I overlooked the Subject Tag setting when I checked Admin > Settings before posting.
Not seeing it, I presumed it was set by Group Email Address - all the groups I own use the same for Subject Tag and Group Email Address, as I wanted them short and distinct (like GMF).

Still, it is hard to imagine that he is subscribed to 5 groups with the same Subject Tag...


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Duane
 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 03:52 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
I don't think this is possible as the Subject Tag is determined by the Group Email Address
Actually, the Subject Tag can be anything you want.  A lot of groups use the group name or email address, but others don't.  The GroupManagersForum uses [GMF] for the Subject Tag.

Duane


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Michael Pavan
 

On Dec 16, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Scott Thayer <thayersn@...> wrote:

As a new owner, I suddenly find myself receiving messages from five groups, which are visually indistinct.
All five groups use the same Subject Tag?
the Subject Tag for this group is: [beta]

I don't think this is possible as the Subject Tag is determined by the Group Email Address
the Group Email Address for this group is: beta
i.e. <beta@groups.io>

My understanding is that email addresses are unique to each group - that is how messages are addressed, sorted, and directed.


I've set some to Daily Summary, which should help. But it would be aesthetically pleasing as well as helpful if a group's message headers contained the group's cover photo (or logo, if a group has one) to supplement the Gio logo which already appears there. As someone else pointed out a few days ago, few members actually go to the group's cover page, which is where the photo currently appears.
OTOH, there is nothing to prevent all groups from using the same group cover photo (or logo) - in fact that is what the default is (cover photo of elephants), unless you choose to change it.

Therefore Cover Photos on email messages in place of Subject Tags is what would cause the problem, not solve it.


moderated Re: Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

Ken Schweizer
 

Wouldn't this exponentially increase the group's usage depending on the size of the group's cover photo? It would seem to me that this would mandate a large increase in server needs and associated costs.

 

Ken

 

“You do what you can for as long as you can, and when you finally can’t, you do the next best thing. You back up but you don’t give up.” ―Chuck Yeager

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott Thayer
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 7:37 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: [beta] Feature request: Cover photo in group message header

 

As a new owner, I suddenly find myself receiving messages from five groups, which are visually indistinct.  I've set some to Daily Summary, which should help.  But it would be aesthetically pleasing as well as helpful if a group's message headers contained the group's cover photo (or logo, if a group has one) to supplement the Gio logo which already appears there.  As someone else pointed out a few days ago, few members actually go to the group's cover page, which is where the photo currently appears.