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moderated Proposed individual member profile page changers #suggestion

Rick N
 

I'd like to propose shortening the vertical height of the member profile page with the following modifications to reduce the amount of scrolling required.

1. The Email Delivery box would be a normally rolled up display, like the Advanced Preferences. The title bar would show the current setting, as in "Email Delivery - Individual Messages".  It would only need to be opened to make changes.

2. The Signature box would likewise be normally closed, and its title would be either "Signature - Blank" or "Signature - Custom", depending on whether anything was entered. It would also only need to be opened to see or set the Signature settings.

3. The Posting Privileges box, on the other hand, should probably be left as-is. The choices are much more complex than for say Email Delivery.


Rick


moderated Membership page column spacing #suggestion

Rick N
 

On a group membership page, the data columns are evenly sized.  The Email columnar data tends to be very wide, often cutoff and hidden by the Delivery column, which is narrow.

Could the Email column be made wider, with a narrower Delivery column?  Rather than two even columns, format it as a two-thirds/one-third sizing, for example.

Rick


moderated Re: Testing the App

Duane
 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 09:13 PM, Fabien wrote:
I’m not sure if you missed me, or not, but I would like to be added, so when the app becomes accessible I will be notified. once it does, how will I be able to download it?
You missed the announcement that started this topic, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/23627, that includes instructions.

Duane


moderated Re: Testing the App

Fabien
 

Hello,
I’m not sure if you missed me, or not, but I would like to be added, so when the app becomes accessible I will be notified. once it does, how will I be able to download it?
Blessings,
Fabien


moderated Re: Subalbums in Photos

Ben Stuyts
 

Yes! I've asked about this too.

I currently prefix each album with a topic name, at least that keeps it organised somewhat.

Ben


moderated Web/Online FOLLOW topic workaround at the group level

Christos G. Psarras
 

There are a couple of roundabout URL-modification ways to allow you to follow/unfollow a topic in any group you are currently perusing, not just at the All Groups-All Topics pages, and if done in a new tab, both methods allow you to continue where you were in that group.

Method-1: 
-You are in some group reading a topic (if you are in message view you'd need to switch to topic view) and you see a topic you like; open that topic in a new tab and switch to it.
-Append ?allview=1 at the end of the URL and press Enter.  (if the URL already has existing parameters, use & instead of ?)
-This changes the page view to look and behave the same as the All Topics-Topic page you would get if you had trekked out of your current group topic page to All Groups-All Topics, found that topic in the list, and clicked on it.
-Click on Follow/Unfollow and when done, close the tab and you'll be back at the same place in the group you were before.

Method-2:
-You are in some group reading a topic (if you are in message view you'd need to switch to topic view) and you see a topic you like; open that topic in a new tab and switch to it.
-Since you have the <topic_ID> number in the URL, you pretend you are an email user: modify the URL to https://groups.io/ft/<topic_id> (to follow) or https://groups.io/unft/<topic_id> (to unfollow) and press Enter.
-This will take you in the same Follow/Unfollow confirmation page emails users get if they click on a footer's Follow/Unfollow Topic link.
-Click on Yes and when done, close the tab and you'll be back at the same place in the group you were before.

The reason we want to do this in a new browser tab is, unless if your current tab is a throwaway or you just don't care returning where you were, on completion of Method-1 you are taken back to the All Groups-All Topics main list page, and on completion of Method-2 back to the All Groups-Followed Topics main list page, since that's where you can currently do the (un)following stuff.  So if you don't want lose the place you were in the group's topic/message list, do it in a new tab.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Web/Online FOLLOW functionality enhancement #suggestion

Christos G. Psarras
 

Hi folks,

Short version:
Enable the Follow/Unfollow functionality not just at the All Groups-All Topics central hub, but also anytime one is in topic (or maybe also message) view in any group; or at least enable it based on whether someone has set a specific group's subscription to Following-Only or not.

Alternatively, upgrade the All Groups-All Topics screen with various sorts and filters to enhance functionality and usability; the way that screen is naked now, makes using it cumbersome to anyone but folks with exclusive Following-Only subscription setting and/or very few groups.


Long version:

I had some of my groups' online-only users ask me how to follow online and I had to research it and by consequence, test-use it for a while.  (as a sidenote, I really ended up liking this functionality a lot as it allows you to greatly finetune your subscription on certain types of chatty groups)  As it turns out, email-mostly/only users have it made using the Following-Only (FO) functionality as the footers have all the necessary links for Following/Unfollowing topics and one can easily use them (in conjunction with the First Message and/or Auto Follow Replies setting) to easily follow/unfollow topics, only for those specific group(s) they have set the FO prefs, and cut down the email traffic of chatty groups to only interesting topics.

Those users were not as quite thrilled though when they found out that if one wants to do the same scheme exclusively-online things get a bit murky and cumbersome.  As things work now, besides the transparent auto-follows, one can only (normally***) follow a topic online if they go to the All Groups-All Topics page and open topics there.  The problem with this "Follow Central Hub/Depository" approach is that it mimics an email user's Inbox, where everything is lumped together, only in that case, one can do all kinds of sorting (or create inbox re-route filters if they want), so for an email user, the central-hub scheme works OK.  But having a topic "Inbox" online doesn't work quite the same in terms of ease, especially since that "inbox" doesn't give you any sort/filters.  The central hub approach may work fine if someone belongs only to very few groups, or especially if they are more or less exclusive FO users, but for others who have a mix of subscription types and also possibly a larger amount of groups (for example 10 in my case), this method can become unwieldy pretty quick.  The screen says All Groups-All Topics and it really means it, in the main list page you are presented with all topics from the beginning of your groups' time, from all groups you belong to, regardless of whether you have set the FO option on those groups or not; in other words, close to 100K in my case, and even if I have my row limit set to 100, some days I have to go to page 2 for just one day's posted topics ... but in any case, the real problem is that there are no filters whatsoever to narrow/limit the returned set, and the only sort order available is PostedDate-NewerFirst which is rather superfluous to be honest, because first, one would kinda expect the topics to be sorted like this by default in this type of usage situation, and second, if one sorts them in OldestFirst order, they could be looking at messages from the 90s possibly, which would be rather useless to follow those old topics anymore.  The list even includes messages/topics one has already followed (some visual indicator may be helpful), and in the cases of messages of groups where the member's subscription is receive all emails (without FO set), one wonders why should those group topics be shown, i.e. why would one want to follow a topic in a group where they already want and get all emails to begin with. (unless if the aim is so one can have a topic handy for future online reference if they don't have access to their email, so I can see a value allowing that)

So the average user may naturally think to themselves, "OK, I'll just do this at the group level", but it doesn't work like that unfortunately, no follow option at the group level.  A good percentage of users prefer to go to one group, do their reading, and when done, go to another group and do the same, etc., instead of having everything lumped-up together.  One would think that at the least, when one is visiting the Messages/Topics of a specific group they set FO to ON, the Follow/Unfollow functionality should also be enabled when perusing topics/messages at the individual group level, don't you agree?  Even better, since we are currently presented with all group topics to follow in the All Groups-All Topics pages, including for groups we don't have FO set to on, why not just then have the capability available at anywhere one might be browsing a topic, i.e. in the individual groups pages, regardless of FO subscription setting.

Alternatively, the central hub All Groups-All Topics screen can really use some strategic sorts and filters to limit topics returned, like restrict display to a specific group for example, restrict/specify date range (which would then make the current PostedDate sort really usable), maybe add a Group-PostedDate sort, a search box, maybe visually indicate if a topic is already followed, or whatever other filter/setting could be of benefit in making that screen more functional and more user-friendly.


Ideally, IMO it would be nice to have both of those enhancements implemented, but in terms of work, I suspect the former would be a lot less work and faster to implement as the follow/unfollow buttons and code are already there in the Topic view page regardless, it's just that they are shown and enabled only when one is in the All Topics/Followed pages, by the use of a URL parameter.

One can also take it a bit further, when one clicks on a hashtag's dropdown menu, maybe also add a Follow/Unfollow Hashtag option there as well.

Cheers,

Christos

*** There are a couple of roundabout URL-mod ways to allow you to follow/unfollow a topic inside any group you are currently perusing, not just at the All Groups-All Topics pages, and if done in a new tab, both methods allow you to continue where you were in that group; I'll post those in a separate message.


moderated Re: Testing the App

Duane
 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:25 PM, William Finn wrote:
Is there an Android version
Not yet in testing.  See https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/23198

Duane


moderated Re: Testing the App

William Finn
 

Is there an Android version


moderated Re: Testing the App

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:01 PM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

Can screen reader users test this app yet?

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No, it is not yet accessible.

Mark 


moderated Re: Testing the App

 

Never mind. stupid question


moderated Re: Testing the App

 

Should we be getting an invite to the App@beta.groups.io or something?


moderated Re: Testing the App

 

Can screen reader users test this app yet?


moderated Re: Slow email delivery

Marv Waschke
 

Growing pains! Best, Marv


moderated <subgroupname>.<groupname>.groups.io #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

Hello

It would be cool if one could use the URL:
http://<subgroupname>.<groupname>.groups.io
to access a subgroup's home page.

It's more, well, memorable than a URL with slashes.

What do you think?

Samuel


moderated Testing the App

 

Hi All,

I just added everyone that contacted me about testing the app to the app@beta.groups.io account. If I missed you, or you would like to test the app, join the group. I will be posting a link in the next few minutes there to test the iOS version of the app. All app discussion should happen in that subgroup.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Subalbums in Photos

txercoupemuseum.org
 

I would also like to have the option of subfolders in Photos.

WRB, Owner



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On Jan 14, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Ginny T. <gttemari21@...> wrote:

I agree that this would be a very useful addition.
Ginny

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moderated Re: Search all wiki actions in Member Activity #suggestion

Bill Hazel
 

There are many reasons that monitoring all wiki activity is an important part of owning or monitoring a group.
Monitoring would allow them to:
  1. Check content to ensure it meets the groups standards of conduct
  2. Check accuracy of statement
  3. Check formatting
  4. Check links
  5. Check for copyright infringement
  6. See who is actually using the wiki
    1. Helps to see if it is being used by the group as a repository
    2. To encourage their continued participation
    3. To help them with technical aspects


moderated Re: Subalbums in Photos

RCardona
 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 08:00 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
My basic group has photo albums with photos organized by album title.
What is it that you wish to be different?
We are requesting that there be folders within folders.  For example, if you have a main folder for a particular country's photos, you could organize sub-folders for each city and then have sub-sub-folders for locations of interest in each city.  

Currently, there is only a main folder and all photos randomly dumped into this single folder.  Wholly inadequate for proper organization.  Frankly, it's shocking the lack of organization for photos wasn't built into the structure of groups.io, like there is for data folders.

RC


moderated Re: Subalbums in Photos

Donald Hellen
 

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:44:08 -0800, "outlawmws via Groups.Io"
<Outlawmws=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Digital age; digital photos; This NEEDS proper digital storage and organization.
My basic group has photo albums with photos organized by album title.
What is it that you wish to be different?

Agreed, I don't care for the title "albums," but it works for my
group, yet I enabled the option for photos in the files section
because it might make sense to have a project with text files and
photos both in the same folder. Or for folders within folders for
photos. So we have both options to choose from.

Donald


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