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moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

J,

Ok. Another idea: It could easily be a subscription option “auto-
follow Likes” just like “auto-follow replies.”
Or, how about a Follow button next to the Like button in the bottom bar under the message. Perhaps only showing when your Subscription is Following Only, otherwise in the More menu.

As well as in the More menu when in List view (Topics or Messages).

The text of the menu item, as well as the tool-tip of the button, should make it clear that the function is /Follow Topic/ - the same as using the link in an emailed message.

I've always believed that the Follow and Mute functionality deserves exposure in the groups' Messages pages, and not be hidden away just in that compendium place that I never visit.

Shal


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 06:45 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Liking and following are two separate things. I don't want GIO to conflate them.
I tried. ;)
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:38 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
You can Like via email.
Liking and following are two separate things. I don't want GIO to conflate them.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 06:35 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
I view the GIO web interface and my email client as entirely different media. Just because I liked something online doesn't mean I want to receive emails about it.
You can Like via email.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 05:05 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
My point is that I always feel psychologically as if I've replied after Liking something, so in my mind I'm expecting to get further updates and always feel left in the dark when I discover that there have been replies and I haven't gotten them.
J -- This proposal does not seem intuitive to me. I view the GIO web interface and my email client as entirely different media. Just because I liked something online doesn't mean I want to receive emails about it.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 02:41 PM, Duane wrote:
You've already got all those functions, so why 'break' an existing one
I don't see that implementing either an "auto-follow Likes" advanced subscription option, or having the system treat Likes as follows, is superfluous or breaking anything. On the contrary. Currently, if a member is set to following-only and auto-follow replies, the only way they can follow topics they're interested in, or posts they agree with, is to make little comments like "I agree" instead of just clicking the Like button. Many groups have guidelines that include the exhortation NOT to post things like "I agree." That leaves group members interested in topics, and who are set to following-only, but who lack a substantive comment to make, in the lurch.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

Ok. Another  idea: It could easily be a subscription option “auto-follow Likes” just like “auto-follow replies.”


On Oct 31, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 03:59 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
If you're set to following-only, first-message-also in a group and you "Like" a post, I think that should be considered a follow.
FWIW, I don't.  You've already got all those functions, so why 'break' an existing one?

Duane

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

Duane
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 03:59 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
If you're set to following-only, first-message-also in a group and you "Like" a post, I think that should be considered a follow.
FWIW, I don't.  You've already got all those functions, so why 'break' an existing one?

Duane


moderated Re: consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

I should have conditioned this on also being "auto-follow replies." My point is that I always feel psychologically as if I've replied after Liking something, so in my mind I'm expecting to get further updates and always feel left in the dark when I discover that there have been replies and I haven't gotten them.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

It's possible I made this suggestion in the past - I have a vague memory of it but nothing happened. I would like to see this hashed out here, and if most agree, would urge Mark to implement it.

If you're set to following-only, first-message-also in a group and you "Like" a post, I think that should be considered a follow. It's not, and in consequence, you can Like a post, assume you're getting further messages from it (because you expressed your opinion about it, and you "did something" to it), but you don't. It is then a surprise when you don't receive any subsequent messages and come back to the site to see that you've actually missed the whole thing.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:11 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
seems to be in order of most frequent use.
Huh? Order of most frequent use by whom? The most common thing I do is check the activity log, which almost at the very bottom, also against its rightful place in the alphabet. It took me awhile to get used to that.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

Judy F.
 

Then possibly have it as an option.  I like the suggestion and have wondered about that for a long time.  I use Photos, Messages and Files far more than I do those that are appearing first in the list. 

Thank you,
Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 02:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:
May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?
The current arrangement seems to be in order of most frequent use. I prefer it that way.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #suggestion Internationalisation in french ? #suggestion

Benoît Dumeaux
 

Maybe use of https://crowdin.com/ can help


moderated Re: Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:
May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?
The current arrangement seems to be in order of most frequent use. I prefer it that way.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: An easy way to reduce blacklisting #misc

Curt Gowan, HPAA Operations
 

Thanks @Duane for introducing me to FBLs. Found this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedback_loop_(email)


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 06:59 AM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
your efforts have not been in vain
OUR efforts. :)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated in "approve and unmoderate," log the approval before the change in status #suggestion

 

This is very nit-picky, but after you approve a message and unmoderate the sender simultaneously, it looks a bit jarring to see the status change logged before the message approval in the chronological list They're of course given the same time stamp, but that's not obvious without hovering. So it can look like you first unmoderated the member and then approved their message. It would be a teensy bit better if they were switched.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • DOCS: Updates from Nina
  • INTERNAL: Improvements to internal admin tools and dashboards
  • INTERNAL: The second mail server is now processing half of all outbound email.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

West Coast Compañeros Staff
 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 08:18 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

And for the denouement, the group member, who was determined to blame this on groups.io and kept wailing to me about how she "could always reply to digests in yahoo," was in the end totally insouciant about my efforts to figure out her problem and the determination that it was a TB, not a groups.io, bug.
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J

J,

No good deed goes unpunished. Fortunately, this topic may be of help to other Thunderbird users who are in the same boat, so your efforts have not been in vain.

Robert


moderated Re: ID to datatable #bug

Jim Wilson
 

Duane is right. ID goes back to the early days of databases where every row is assigned a unique and permanent number. One benefit is finding duplicates to remove the later entry.
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Jim

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