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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:14 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I think that's it: easier to create the account on the spot so that the user can go ahead with filling in their options & profile while they wait for the confirmation to arrive.I think that it is more literally because it's a placeholder in the sense that creating the account a priori prevents anyone else from signing up with the same email address while it's in process. It behaves like it is perfectly realThat's a matter of definition. There are things it does do and things it doesn't do. I think the word "real" is meaningless. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
J,
I would think of these NC “accounts” as placeholders.That's a reasonable view. It’s probably just easier for Mark to create an “account” before theI think that's it: easier to create the account on the spot so that the user can go ahead with filling in their options & profile while they wait for the confirmation to arrive. It behaves like it is perfectly real, in much the same way that a Bouncing (or Bounced) account is still real, but can't receive group postings by email until the NC status is cleared. Shal
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
John,
It shows that an account with an incorrect email address is createdThat's because NC only refers to whether the user has confirmed the email address that they typed into the Sign-up page. It has nothing to do with their activity on the web.* Shal *Perhaps except as later clarified by Mark concerning group creation.
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Re: Email only footer for users without http/s access
#suggestion
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 08:50 PM, Peter Mott wrote:
The group is already set to Plain Text Only in the message formatting block, but message footers still contain clickable hyperlinks to http pages.By definition, the plain text messages sent by groups.io cannot contain hyperlinks. If recipient's email client sees a link address and converts it to a hyperlink, that's another matter...but that behavior is not in groups.io's control. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Email only footer for users without http/s access
#suggestion
Peter Mott <peter@...>
Hi Bruce,
The group is already set to Plain Text Only in the message formatting block, but message footers still contain clickable hyperlinks to http pages. regards Peter
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"Subscriber was removed for marking a message as spam" notification
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It would be useful of the notification sent to the +owner address when someone is unsubbed for this reason contained the same "resume subscription" link that was originally sent to the affected member. That way, if he panicked and deleted the resume message, I could forward him the notification I received and help get him back into the group that way.
More generally, we need some way that a group Owner can resend that link to the [ex-]member. Seven days of expiration does not help if the one and only message sent to him is irretrievably lost. Thanks for your consideration, Bruce
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 02:39 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've changed the text from 'Logged in:' to 'They accessed the web from:'.Typo sneaked in, forgot the 'y' in They (or a bug ate it?). Thanks much, Duane
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 6:42 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: I think the problem is semantics. The language used for NC members is that they "don't yet have an account." That should read "don't yet have a confirmed account." I don't know all the places that language exists, but it floats around here and there and should probably be clarified. If you see any instances of this on the web or in notifications, please let me know and I'll clarify. Thanks, Mark
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:14 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I've changed the text from 'Logged in:' to 'They accessed the web from:'. Thanks, Mark
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:38 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Not true. Only confirmed users can create groups. Thanks, Mark
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RFS
Confirmed...working now.
Thanks!
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On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 7:56 PM RFS <rschend@...> wrote: My 2 yr old group has a single subdomain, which was added last year. I don't know if the start of this issue coincides with that or not. This should be fixed now. Thanks, Mark
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Re: NC Status Clarification
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I would think of these NC “accounts” as placeholders. It’s probably just easier for Mark to create an “account” before the dust has settled, but it’s not a “real” account yet.
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On May 11, 2020, at 9:11 AM, John Pearce <jponsalt@...> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
Funny this application for membership happened just today. It shows that an account with an incorrect email address is created and changed without being admitted to the group or being confirmed. It's still in NC and pending emails to both addresses bounced.
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RFS
Small typo above...
When trying to navigate directly to a message thread ... if I AM already logged in, it works fine. Thanks.
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Re: NC Status Clarification
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Yes, agree with Duane, I just replied before seeing this. It’s nothing to do with their “account” being logged into groups.io as an account.
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On May 11, 2020, at 4:14 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: NC Status Clarification
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I think the term “logged in” might be somewhat loose as well. I think (of course Mark would have to confirm - no double entendre intended) that the notification text is really just talking about where and how they’re accessing the site, “logged in” or not. I still suspect it’s really just talking about how they’re logged into the internet.
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On May 11, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Email only footer for users without http/s access
#suggestion
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:00 PM, Peter Mott wrote:
Please consider adding an optional system footer that does not contain any http/s links for members who are connected to the Internet over slow speed HF radio or satellite links and are only able to send and receive email.Peter -- Set your group to Plain Text Only (Message Formatting block) and no clickable hyperlinks will be sent. Regards, Bruce
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 05:56 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
what purpose is served by "Logged in" appearing in any membership application? It would seem to be (at best) irrelevant.It should more correctly be labeled something like "Accessing the web from". It was this information, a couple of months ago, that allowed group owners to determine that there were unscrupulous characters attempting to join a large number of groups. When a group is mainly for local people, it makes no sense when someone from Timbuktu, Mali attempts to join a group in Aberdeen, Scotland. This bit of information is a tool that group owners can use in their arsenal against the 'bad guys'. It's not perfect since it only applies to those that are online when applying for membership, but every little bit helps. Duane
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Re: NC Status Clarification
#bug
Chris Jones
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 02:42 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
I think the problem is semantics.You might well be right! :) The language used for NC members is that they "don't yet have an account." That should read "don't yet have a confirmed account."That makes sense. However, what purpose is served by "Logged in" appearing in any membership application? It would seem to be (at best) irrelevant. Chris
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